OU-ISU comparrision

DenverSooner said:
Does it have to be Niang or Clark? I would like to see Ejim and Spangler play together. Ejim can step out and hit 3 pointers and create his own shot. Kane is a better 3 point shooter and scorer than Woodard so even if Ejim and Spangler cost you a little on offense, Kane could make it up.

I agree with you that Niang is a really good player. There are easily 10 really good players on a combined team. Guys like Neal, Long and Hornbeak would get cut.
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Hield/Clark/Spangler

=

Kane/Ejim/Niang

Cousins is the next best player on the two rosters.
 
WTSooner said:
That is terrible logic.

Would anybody from TT or LA Tech start for OU? We lost to both.
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In your opinion its terrible logic, but your already know my thoughts on your opinion. Who's to say that La Tech or TT does not have a player that could not start for OU, I am not an expert coach and neither are you.
 
originalsooner55 said:
In your opinion its terrible logic, but your already know my thoughts on your opinion. Who's to say that La Tech or TT does not have a player that could not start for OU, I am not an expert coach and neither are you.
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No, I don't. If you've stated your opinion of me before, it went in one ear, and out the other. *shrugs*

So it's bad logic to suggest ISU might have more players on a starting 5 than OU if the teams were combined, b/c OU beat them twice, but it's not bad logic to say OU would EASILY have 4 guys starting if they combined teams with TT or LA Tech?

Okay.
 
OU didn't beat them twice. The teams split. They are very evenly matched. The good news is OU should be better than ISU next season.

I think most people agree that Hield, Cousins, Ejim and Kane start on a combined team. I think you could easily pick Spangler, Niang, Clark or Hogue for the 5th starting spot and you might want the best defender if you were actually picking a team. You will not have an issue with scoring with those four guys I listed as a starter and the four guys I listed as the fifth starter can all produce points, with Spangler and Hogue producing the least porductive. There are 9 really good players on the combined team and another 3 or 4 that are very solid players. Woodard, Neal, Hornbeak and Long are certainly very solid and I suspect there is another guy or two on ISU that is good but I just don't know enough about their team. It seems to me people are arguing about something that is opinion and I am not sure there is a bad opinion to be had when combining these two teams.
 
DenverSooner said:
OU didn't beat them twice. The teams split. They are very evenly matched. The good news is OU should be better than ISU next season.
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Should. ISU isn't bringing much in, that I can tell.

I do think the Thomas kid on their bench will be solid next year, but that won't make up the difference between what they lose, and what we're gaining.
 
I just realized in all of this discussion, I never once mentioned Frank Booker. Booker can play. He wouldn't make a top 10 of the combined teams but he is a player. He absolutely proved that to me with his block a few games ago.
 
What brought me to ask this question is the 2 guys on the all conference list. I know we were only one place better, but no OU guys made the all conference 1st team. Do you think ISU players got benifit from ther out of confernce run for 1st team?

Personally with 2 guys on all conference team and the non conferance run they had I would have to say they underachieved in conferance. That is what brought me to want to compare the teams.
 
It was their stats. Ejim was the leading scorer and second leading rebounder. How doesn't that earn first team. Kane had great numbers. OU was a more balanced team so the stats were not as impressive.
 
snydrosooner said:
What brought me to ask this question is the 2 guys on the all conference list. I know we were only one place better, but no OU guys made the all conference 1st team. Do you think ISU players got benifit from ther out of confernce run for 1st team?

Personally with 2 guys on all conference team and the non conferance run they had I would have to say they underachieved in conferance. That is what brought me to want to compare the teams.
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I think the simple answer is that they just scored more than everybody else (those two guys). In Big 12 games only, the five guys that made 1st team were the 4 highest scorers, and Wiggins was the 6th, jumping Markel Brown, who was 5th.

I think being seniors, and in the case of Ejim, having that HUGE scoring game, help as well. All things equal, I don't have a problem with putting a senior above a younger player.
 
WTSooner said:
I think the simple answer is that they just scored more than everybody else (those two guys). In Big 12 games only, the five guys that made 1st team were the 4 highest scorers, and Wiggins was the 6th, jumping Markel Brown, who was 5th.

I think being seniors, and in the case of Ejim, having that HUGE scoring game, help as well. All things equal, I don't have a problem with putting a senior above a younger player.
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That's all I was really trying to say. Doesn't mean I think player A is simply better, just how those teams are constructed.
 
It should be noted that Niang isn't going to have big rebounding numbers because on the offensive end he is almost always at the 3 point line. Is that by design or because he just always floats out there? He is a poor man's Royce White playing point forward IMO.

Also Kane is 6 years older than Woodard if I am not mistaken. Huge difference and tough to compare.
 
152219 said:
Also Kane is 6 years older than Woodard if I am not mistaken. Huge difference and tough to compare.
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Not if the question is who do you want running point for your team today. ;)
 
WTSooner said:
Not if the question is who do you want running point for your team today. ;)
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Yep.

I COULD see with a bunch scorers on the floor you might want more of a facilitator, but Woodard's not the complete player that Kane is YET.
 
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