Patrick Stevens partial bracket - Mar 2

In their last 12 games, OU is 8-4 and MSU is 9-3. If you average the RPIs of the teams they have played in those 12 games, MSU's comes out to 100 (99.9) and OU's is 55 (55.0). I would say that is significantly different.

It comes down to conference tournaments. Winners will get a 1 seed (of the ones that are currently a 1 seed or a 2 seed).
 
Wins against top 50 teams on the road/neutral site

Nova- 4
UVA- 3
Oregon- 2
OU- 3
Miami- 3
X- 4
UNC- 0
Maryland - 2
Mich St. - 2
Indiana - 2

I'm still not sure how/why UNC is on the #1 line in some brackets. The argument could easily be made that they should be a low #3 seed.

152219, you provided some good data and posts. And for life of me, I can't understand why UNC would be on anyone's #1 line right now (Lunardi, etc.). The only reason they would even be considered near a #1 is because they are leading the ACC currently. But in reality, their resume is closer to #3 seed than it is a #1 seed. They lack quality wins, especially in road/neutral games.....they have ZERO top 50 rpi wins for this measure.:facepalm
 
It comes down to conference tournaments. Winners will get a 1 seed (of the ones that are currently a 1 seed or a 2 seed).

Everyone always says that, but conference tournaments tend to be more for weeding teams in & out of the tournament than it does deciding top seeds.
 
Everyone always says that, but conference tournaments tend to be more for weeding teams in & out of the tournament than it does deciding top seeds.

I think it does both. Theres usually more dominant teams and only KU and Nova is standing out. Someone out of the ACC is getting a one seed...either UNC, Virginia or Miami. That means theres only one spot available as a 1 seed. If we don't win the big 12 tourney and Mich St. does...we're not getting a 1 seed.
 
I think it does both. Theres usually more dominant teams and only KU and Nova is standing out. Someone out of the ACC is getting a one seed...either UNC, Virginia or Miami. That means theres only one spot available as a 1 seed. If we don't win the big 12 tourney and Mich St. does...we're not getting a 1 seed.

I won't bet my house on it, but I think if we win Saturday we've locked down a 1-seed. We easily have the best resume outside of Kansas. Easily.
 
I won't bet my house on it, but I think if we win Saturday we've locked down a 1-seed. We easily have the best resume outside of Kansas. Easily.

I think you're very close to being right on that, Indy. A win over TCU WILL put us in a position to get a 1-seed. But we don't need to get bounced from the Big 12 tourney in our first game or we MIGHT find ourselves relegated to a 2-seed.

JMHO.
 
I think you're very close to being right on that, Indy. A win over TCU WILL put us in a position to get a 1-seed. But we don't need to get bounced from the Big 12 tourney in our first game or we MIGHT find ourselves relegated to a 2-seed.

JMHO.

How does beating the worst team in the big 12 help us do anything?
 
Agree. OU is a 1 already; it's just a matter of not blowing easy games.

The way this year has gone, somebody is going to lose an easy one in the last week. Just hope it isn't OU.
 
Avoiding a sub 100 loss all year for one. Virginia can't say that, neither can Michigan state

Exactly. Beating them means we didn't lose to them. It's not that hard to figure.

It's funny, bgrch, how you're so high on Mich State's recent success, even though much of it has come against teams of roughly the caliber of TCU. But when we discuss the possibility of the Sooners beating one such team, and you rush in to suggest it would be a meaningless win.
 
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Exactly. Beating them means we didn't lose to them. It's not that hard to figure.

It's funny, bgrch, how you're so high on Mich State's recent success, even though much of it has come against teams of roughly the caliber of TCU. But when we discuss the possibility of the Sooners beating one such team, and you rush in to suggest it would be a meaningless win.

You need to look at Mich st. again. They have won 9 out of their last 10 games. They beat Maryland, Indiana, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio St. Ohio St is the only team currently not in Lunardi's bracketology but is in the bubble watch.

You are right though...they beat Rutgers who is the same caliber as TCU.
 
How does beating the worst team in the big 12 help us do anything?

You amaze me. I realize several posters have already answered the above, but for the record: How would losing to the worst team in the Big 12 affect our seeding?
 
You amaze me. I realize several posters have already answered the above, but for the record: How would losing to the worst team in the Big 12 affect our seeding?

Were not going to lose though. Thats not even an issue. Thats like Mich St. fans talking about beating Rutgers...like there is some doubt that they wouldn't beat the worst team in the big 10. So beating TCU isn't going to help us when it comes to our seeding and losing...well...were not going to lose.
 
Were not going to lose though. Thats not even an issue. Thats like Mich St. fans talking about beating Rutgers...like there is some doubt that they wouldn't beat the worst team in the big 10. So beating TCU isn't going to help us when it comes to our seeding and losing...well...were not going to lose.

This Rutgers team is the lowest rated power conference team in Kenpom's database. That is how bad they are.
 
This Rutgers team is the lowest rated power conference team in Kenpom's database. That is how bad they are.

Who cares. The point is...TCU is terrible. 2 conference wins. Were not going to lose to them. Its a cupcake game.
 
How would losing to the worst team in the Big 12 affect our seeding?

I pretty much stated that early in the thread. However, I'd like to think we'll find a way to win this game. In that likely scenario, we'll stay at the top of the 2-line with a great shot at a #1 seed with a good showing next week (at least two wins). If we get three wins, and one of them is against Kansas, then we'll be a lock for a #1 seed.

Let's assume all the contenders for a #1 seed win the rest of their games (except Kansas). I think here are your four #1 seeds - Kansas (overall #1), Villanova (next in line), MSU and OU.
 
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