Politically Correct Hypocrisy taught at college campuses?

You see, smart people take something literal when there is overwhelming historical evidence of it existence.

Smart people can recognize a figure of speech.

The people who try to equate the two are not serious people. They are riding around in the clown car.

So what overwhelming historical evidence do you have that the drunk college kids were going to go hang black people and that there would NEVER be one in there frat?
 
Look ... why don't we settle this for all the people who have this hangup about use of the "N" word.

The word has DIFFERENT MEANINGS. .

You can't allow students, athletes or not, an assumed entitlement of taking racial slurs and making them convenient for use in a setting of higher education. Did I say higher education?

Boren is old enough and wise enough to understand racial slurs aren't toys to play with by students as college communities should represent a baseline set of core values and principal that serves diverse communities of all ages on and off campus.
 
you dont understand what makes the word bad. you just think it's automatically bad whenever and however used.

quit thinking this.

Your first error of judgement was accepting entitled hypocrites to evolve a racial slur into any context of endearment. Those same entitled hypocrites run around policing its usage with a huge margin of error.

Entitled hypocrites simply must understand that racial slurs have a history of pain and suffering that should be respected by all ages even though it's not entirely understood.
 
CoolM yes the word has multiple meanings and context matters. Harrison wasn't referring to his skin color. However he said it with all the other meanings of the word that people hate. By adding the verb in front of it he was certainly driving the point home!

Also he was expressing direct hate towards an individual. This isn't acceptable.

It's not acceptable but, as coolm has pointed out numerous times, it's not racist either. Context matters. Should he get in trouble for being mean to Big Frank? Maybe, but why do we care?

Probably the fact that he's being vilified all over the U.S. by people trying to equate this to the SAE incident is punishment enough. He certainly won't make this mistake again.
 
The only thing I take out of this thread is that people, myself included, don't know how to spell Big Frank's last name:ez-laugh:
 
The only thing I take out of this thread is that people, myself included, don't know how to spell Big Frank's last name:ez-laugh:

He has a last name? I thought he was just "Big Frank" like Kobe, Lebron, Madonna and Shakira.

Maybe Wisconsin needs to consider helping us all out by putting the names on the jerseys!
 
It was a stupid and hateful thing to say, but I wouldn't deem it racist. It just reinforces my joy in seeing that Kentucky team lose. And yes, if a white person uttered those same words, there would be hell to pay.

I rarely see any productivity regarding discussions and dialogue about race on an internet message board because there are so many different worldviews and experiences. You're rarely, if ever, going to change peoples minds when it comes to this topic.

Having said that, I think we all want equality, yet when we don't hold all groups of people to the same standard and continually excuse certain behavior for particular "groups" then we are never truly going to achieve equality. There is a term for this mindset called the "soft bigotry of low expectations". It simply means that certain groups of people get a pass when it comes to substandard behavior because those groups are deemed to have suffered historical injustices or have been discriminated against at some point in time. I look forward to the day that society judges each man (or woman) on their own merits/behavior free of excuses or perceived justifications.

As a Jewish-born American (Israeli descent), I tend to tune out much of the faux outrage and grandstanding that accompanies polarizing issues of American society. My ancestors have been persecuted for thousands of years in a region where people want them exterminated. So forgive me if I'm not too sympathetic/shed a tear to someone who finds a term/word offensive or not. When your life is at stake, it changes your perspective and you realize that a derogatory term pales in comparison to what might happen to your family/legacy. As far as I'm concerned, this thread about what constitutes "racism" or insensitivity is bullsh!t hyperbole for people who want to feel better about themselves.

Stepping off soapbox now......
 
Nice post stormspencer. Well stated!

Now back to basketball…...
 
I hope when asked at the press conference about dukes mvp jones, big frank days **** that rookie


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It was a stupid and hateful thing to say, but I wouldn't deem it racist. It just reinforces my joy in seeing that Kentucky team lose. And yes, if a white person uttered those same words, there would be hell to pay.

I rarely see any productivity regarding discussions and dialogue about race on an internet message board because there are so many different worldviews and experiences. You're rarely, if ever, going to change peoples minds when it comes to this topic.

Having said that, I think we all want equality, yet when we don't hold all groups of people to the same standard and continually excuse certain behavior for particular "groups" then we are never truly going to achieve equality. There is a term for this mindset called the "soft bigotry of low expectations". It simply means that certain groups of people get a pass when it comes to substandard behavior because those groups are deemed to have suffered historical injustices or have been discriminated against at some point in time. I look forward to the day that society judges each man (or woman) on their own merits/behavior free of excuses or perceived justifications.

As a Jewish-born American (Israeli descent), I tend to tune out much of the faux outrage and grandstanding that accompanies polarizing issues of American society. My ancestors have been persecuted for thousands of years in a region where people want them exterminated. So forgive me if I'm not too sympathetic/shed a tear to someone who finds a term/word offensive or not. When your life is at stake, it changes your perspective and you realize that a derogatory term pales in comparison to what might happen to your family/legacy. As far as I'm concerned, this thread about what constitutes "racism" or insensitivity is bullsh!t hyperbole for people who want to feel better about themselves.

Stepping off soapbox now......


What happened to the jews was atrocious, and the racism towards modern Jews is still atrocious. What happened to the Native Americans was atrocious, and the fact it still affects their race is still sad. What happened to African Americans and the fact statistics still show they suffer severe racism in American is very sad.

They don't have to be measured against each other. What you did in your post was pretty much say blacks need to stop crying because they didn't suffer what your Jewish ancestors suffered, or still suffer. Injustice is injustice. It doesn't matter who perpetrates the injustice and who the victims are.

I'm so glad racial relations have progressed as far as they have in our country, but I also recognize the continued lack of balance in poverty, legal injustices, hiring practices, educational biases, etc. Racial profiling still continues to be an issue as well. No one person has ever been harder on their own.

While most are here debating racial issues, I choose to spend my days and nights trying to change the mindset of young black men & women in my city. Teach them education, community accountability, respect for self and others, the value of hard work, and most of all how much faith can impact their lives.

While doing so, I would never elevate or lower the level of impact atrocities have had on your culture, or any other other culture.

The term you referred to will always be offensive to educated black people who know it's connected to hangings, public auctions for black lives, rapes of black women and girls, etc. The word needs to go away on all fronts!! It will always be a negative word and used in racial context, it still generates negative passion on both sides. I remember as a small kid being made fun of as the 1st black child to attend an all white school in Ponca City, OK.

I remember sitting in the front of the classroom as my old music teacher pointed at my hair and lips, while explaining to the rest of the class that I was different, more ape like, and of course with a smaller brain. I was in the 4th grade and that is where I learned the N word. I had never heard it in my home or family because my father and all of his siblings were educated men/women, and we just didn't hear that language. The shame I suffered that day, and the giggles afterwards, mixed with the few who were regularly calling me the N word will always make the word have a different meaning to me.

Ignorant young blacks and whites can use it all they want, but to say the word shouldn't generate outrage to someone who has been attacked with the word is just insensitive, IMO.....
 
Since there are obtuse people taking what Harrison literally does that mean you actually think he wants to have sex with Kaminsky?

He's gay AND he's black. He's untouchable by the media.
 
and the fact statistics still show they suffer severe racism in American is very sad.
You have a source for these facts?

but I also recognize the continued lack of balance in poverty, legal injustices, hiring practices, educational biases, etc. Racial profiling still continues to be an issue as well. No one person has ever been harder on their own.
You are better than this. It aint the white man's fault any longer. You can only blame them for so long. I know you do work trying to change this but the current state of the black community in America has very little to do with racism.
 
You have a source for these facts?


You are better than this. It aint the white man's fault any longer. You can only blame them for so long. I know you do work trying to change this but the current state of the black community in America has very little to do with racism.

That is the biggest problem with black America today. They still think it's white folks that are holding them down. Despite the fact that we have a 1/2 black President. Despite the fact that one of the best golfers of all time is 1/2 black. Despite the fact that the NBA is full of blacks. Despite the fact that a black man just got accepted to every Ivy League school. Despite that fact that there are thousands of blacks that didn't let "whites" stand in their way, and now have college educations, good jobs, good families, and live a good life. But somehow, when a black man doesn't make anything out of his life, that is b/c the white man didn't let him.

Is there still racism in this country? Sure. I'd be a fool to say otherwise. But racism isn't what is holding black people back. It's black people that are holding black people back. And until they realize that and start doing something about it, they will continually have all of the problems (and more) that jmizzy mentioned above.

JMO.
 
I remember as a small kid being made fun of as the 1st black child to attend an all white school in Ponca City, OK.

I remember sitting in the front of the classroom as my old music teacher pointed at my hair and lips, while explaining to the rest of the class that I was different, more ape like, and of course with a smaller brain. I was in the 4th grade and that is where I learned the N word. I had never heard it in my home or family because my father and all of his siblings were educated men/women, and we just didn't hear that language. The shame I suffered that day, and the giggles afterwards, mixed with the few who were regularly calling me the N word will always make the word have a different meaning ...

That is really horrible and I an sorry you had such an ignorant and mean teacher and were exposed to other children that learned ignorance and hatred at such a young age. While I am sure you know this, you are not more ape like and do not have a smaller brain. Science have proven this but your writing and personality prove it even more.

May I asked what year that was? I really hope you are older than me. It doesn't make it right or remotely justify an adult treating you that way but I am 47 and simply cannot imagine this happening in my lifetime. I suppose I am naive
 
But racism isn't what is holding black people back. It's black people that are holding black people back. And until they realize that and start doing something about it, they will continually have all of the problems (and more) that jmizzy mentioned above.

Really? It's like I am in the middle of Dixie.

Tell you what. You come down and do my job for a month and just try to walk away without believing that the existing prejudice creates a systemic problem that affects blacks dramatically and disproportionately.

Citing your examples above is akin to Inhofe throwing a snowball in the senate. Just because I ate a an egg mcmuffin a few minutes ago doesn't mean world hunger has been eradicated.
 
That is the biggest problem with black America today. They still think it's white folks that are holding them down. Despite the fact that we have a 1/2 black President. Despite the fact that one of the best golfers of all time is 1/2 black. Despite the fact that the NBA is full of blacks. Despite the fact that a black man just got accepted to every Ivy League school. Despite that fact that there are thousands of blacks that didn't let "whites" stand in their way, and now have college educations, good jobs, good families, and live a good life. But somehow, when a black man doesn't make anything out of his life, that is b/c the white man didn't let him.

Is there still racism in this country? Sure. I'd be a fool to say otherwise. But racism isn't what is holding black people back. It's black people that are holding black people back. And until they realize that and start doing something about it, they will continually have all of the problems (and more) that jmizzy mentioned above.

JMO.[/QUO
I just the deleted the post I was going to make. I'll just reduce it down to this. You are a sad case and a ignorant man.
 
Really? It's like I am in the middle of Dixie.

Tell you what. You come down and do my job for a month and just try to walk away without believing that the existing prejudice creates a systemic problem that affects blacks dramatically and disproportionately.

Citing your examples above is akin to Inhofe throwing a snowball in the senate. Just because I ate a an egg mcmuffin a few minutes ago doesn't mean world hunger has been eradicated.

What is your job?
 
I just the deleted the post I was going to make. I'll just reduce it down to this. You are a sad case and a ignorant man.
Why do you say this?

Does racism exist? yes.
Is it why black communities have higher crime rates, higher dropout rates, lower paying jobs? No.

Facts are facts.
 
Why do you say this?

Does racism exist? yes.
Is it why black communities have higher crime rates, higher dropout rates, lower paying jobs? No.

Facts are facts.

Of course racism is the reason. You aren't suggesting that the members of the black community have lower morals, not very smart, and incapable of doing skilled white man's work are you? That would be racist wouldn't it? You aren't one of those are you?

Look up racism in the dictionary. Well, we don't have to. You just defined it for us.
 
Does racism exist? yes.
Is it why black communities have higher crime rates, higher dropout rates, lower paying jobs? No.

Facts are facts.

Do you and others just sit back in an ivory tower and make these declarations? I ask because this is a very naive statement. If you think that racism isn't right at the core of black crime numbers, black education issues, and black employment issues then you are just ostriching your way to a self-satisfying answer

My job? criminal defense attorney.
 
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