Porter MF Moser!!

IndySooner said:
Castiglione is not good at raising money. We wouldn't be in this situation if he was.
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It's remarkable how Joe C. has become the catch-all person to blame for everything over the past couple of years. He's raised millions of dollars in a state with relatively small population and at a school that doesn't have the alumni base to match many of our competitors.

Many disgruntled fans refuse to accept that big problems are generally complex problems. Whatever the issue might be, they feel the need to narrow it down to a single person to blame--one coach, one player. And now, in the eyes of many, it's all on Joe C.

Was most of the money Joe C. has raised designated for football? Of course, and it's a rock-solid bet most of the money raised by the next AD will be too. If the BMDs aren't into hoops, we could have the most persuasive AD in the world and it wouldn't make a difference.
 
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skyvue said:
It's remarkable how Joe C. has become the catch-all person to blame for everything over the past couple of years. He's raised millions of dollars in a state with relatively small population and at a school that doesn't have the alumni base to match many of our competitors.

Many disgruntled fans refuse to accept that big problems are generally complex problems. Whatever the issue might be, they feel the need to narrow it down to a single person to blame--one coach, one player. And now, in the eyes of many, it's all on Joe C.

Was most of the money Joe C. has raised designated for football? Of course, and it's a rock-solid bet most of the money raised by the next AD will be too. If the BMDs aren't into hoops, we could have the persuasive AD in the world and it wouldn't make a difference.
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He’s also alienated some donors and meddled in the FB program. He’s an AD. He shouldn’t be telling the FB coach who he can hire and fire. He shouldn’t be a bottleneck to NIL funds. He shouldn’t be a road block. Yet, he is.

He is there to oversee and make sure the programs and coaches have what they need to succeed. He’s not Don Corleone. He shouldn’t be preventing OU from deploying its resources to the best of our abilities because he thinks otherwise.
 
mict085 said:
He’s also alienated some donors and meddled in the FB program. He’s an AD. He shouldn’t be telling the FB coach who he can hire and fire. He shouldn’t be a bottleneck to NIL funds. He shouldn’t be a road block. Yet, he is.

He is there to oversee and make sure the programs and coaches have what they need to succeed. He’s not Don Corleone. He shouldn’t be preventing OU from deploying its resources to the best of our abilities because he thinks otherwise.
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This is all hearsay.

And some things you claim an AD shouldn’t die is literally his job.

What does AD stand for
 
skyvue said:
It's remarkable how Joe C. has become the catch-all person to blame for everything over the past couple of years. He's raised millions of dollars in a state with relatively small population and at a school that doesn't have the alumni base to match many of our competitors.

Many disgruntled fans refuse to accept that big problems are generally complex problems. Whatever the issue might be, they feel the need to narrow it down to a single person to blame--one coach, one player. And now, in the eyes of many, it's all on Joe C.

Was most of the money Joe C. has raised designated for football? Of course, and it's a rock-solid bet most of the money raised by the next AD will be too. If the BMDs aren't into hoops, we could have the most persuasive AD in the world and it wouldn't make a difference.
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If he were a good fundraiser, we’d have a revamped L Dale and a new basketball arena. He’s lucky the Love’s money fell in his lap.
 
skyvue said:
It's remarkable how Joe C. has become the catch-all person to blame for everything over the past couple of years. He's raised millions of dollars in a state with relatively small population and at a school that doesn't have the alumni base to match many of our competitors.

Many disgruntled fans refuse to accept that big problems are generally complex problems. Whatever the issue might be, they feel the need to narrow it down to a single person to blame--one coach, one player. And now, in the eyes of many, it's all on Joe C.

Was most of the money Joe C. has raised designated for football? Of course, and it's a rock-solid bet most of the money raised by the next AD will be too. If the BMDs aren't into hoops, we could have the most persuasive AD in the world and it wouldn't make a difference.
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While you make good points (as you usually do), Joe C gets a large chunk of the blame for two glaring reasons. One, he did not adapt quickly at all as NIL was going through the process of changing college athletics forever. Two, paying ridiculously expensive extensions to Venables and Moser when neither had done anything to earn them was 100% inexcusable...and it has really put the university in a huge bind.

Joe C has done a lot of great things at OU over the past 27 years. Most notably, he hired Bob Stoops (as well as many other great coaches in various sports) and has made OU highly competitive in more sports than they ever were. 25 of OU's 44 National Championships occurred under his watch. There was a time when many (myself included) would not trade him for any AD in America. But his time has clearly passed based on my prior paragraph. Also, his record is 1-2 in hiring good men's basketball head coaches (he inherited Sampson). I've said this before and I mean it 100% - as people get older, they are often slower to make big changes. Joe C is 67...I'm 62. Older folks like us can change and adapt, but in most cases, it's not a quick pivot (hence the term "set in our ways")...and NIL came at us like a ton of bricks.
 
skyvue said:
It's remarkable how Joe C. has become the catch-all person to blame for everything over the past couple of years. He's raised millions of dollars in a state with relatively small population and at a school that doesn't have the alumni base to match many of our competitors.
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he has done a TERRIBLE job fund raising ..
 
BoulderSooner said:
the good thing is PM's buy out is due monthly over the entire rest of the term ..
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AND we don’t pay anymore once he gets a job. So if he finds a head job at some mid major or even as an assistant, we are off the hook. I figure he will probably end up somewhere this offseason, he’s still a hot commodity in the coaching world.
 
Moneyball said:
AND we don’t pay anymore once he gets a job. So if he finds a head job at some mid major or even as an assistant, we are off the hook. I figure he will probably end up somewhere this offseason, he’s still a hot commodity in the coaching world.
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Probably in the Missouri Valley, Ohio Valley, or Summit League.

*What if we buy him out, hire Chris Crutchfield from Omaha, and Omaha hires him?

*not the choice I would make, but it's not out of the realm of possibility....
 
AnotherSoonerInTX said:
Probably in the Missouri Valley, Ohio Valley, or Summit League.

*What if we buy him out, hire Chris Crutchfield from Omaha, and Omaha hires him?

*not the choice I would make, but it's not out of the realm of possibility....
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I'd rather keep pm to save money than hire crutchfield. What has he done to merit discussions for ou? We gonna start talk about OU high school coaches too?
 
mict085 said:
He’s also alienated some donors and meddled in the FB program. He’s an AD. He shouldn’t be telling the FB coach who he can hire and fire. He shouldn’t be a bottleneck to NIL funds. He shouldn’t be a road block. Yet, he is.

He is there to oversee and make sure the programs and coaches have what they need to succeed. He’s not Don Corleone. He shouldn’t be preventing OU from deploying its resources to the best of our abilities because he thinks otherwise.
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All the fundraising and extension criticisms are well-founded . His choice for NIL collective leaders hasn't been good at all either. Going for 0/2 in the last two rev hires might be the nail in the coffin for Joe C's job. The list is getting longer by the day but.....

He is not a dictator AD and to that extent, I think some lack of oversight on sub-hires have been subpar. The narrative that he has overstepped football hires is driven by Captain 405 and doesn't have any sufficient backing. Do yourself a favor and unsubscribe from the credit card-stealing clown. Any of the other three sites that cover OU are 10x better, spend that money there.
 
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