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After Billy left OU, who were the potential candidates for the job before Kelvin got hired? I think I remember one of his assistants being up for the job, but I can not remember for sure.
 
I seem to recall we had an interest in Tubby Smith, but The Tulsa press was in an uproar, as he was coaching for TU at the time...
 
After Billy left OU, who were the potential candidates for the job before Kelvin got hired? I think I remember one of his assistants being up for the job, but I can not remember for sure.

Best I got. I have to admit my memory is pretty fuzzy on this one:

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OU May Have Its New Man Sources: Sampson Will Be Next Basketball Coach

Bob Hersom, Staff Writer

Washington State basketball coach Kelvin Sampson flew to Oklahoma
City on Friday morning for a three-day visit with University of
Oklahoma officials, sources confirmed.

Sampson, 38, is visiting OU amid increasing speculation that he
will become OU's head basketball coach.

Before leaving for Oklahoma, Sampson had a phone conversation with
Billy Tubbs, who became TCU's head coach April 9, after 14 seasons at
OU.

This weekend's meeting will be Sampson's second with OU
officials. He also met with OU assistant athletic director John
Underwood last weekend at the Dallas-Fort Worth airport. Underwood
flew to Dallas to meet with Sampson, who had a layover while
returning from Florida to Washington.

Sources close to Sampson said they expect OU to offer him the
head coaching job this weekend. And they expect him to accept -
even though he has turned down several offers during his seven
seasons at WSU.

"My guess is that he is going to take it, and I've heard the job
will be offered," a source said. "He's made it clear that he's
serious about this," another source said, "and I think it's his job
to turn down at this point. "
In the last calendar year, Sampson has been offered and turned
down the head coaching positions at Auburn, Marquette and Washington.

He also may have been offered the head coaching job at South
Carolina.

"Kelvin feels like this may be the best offer he's had," a
source said. "This is intriguing to him because of the new
conference (four Southwest conference teams joining the Big Eight
in 1996).

"And the other jobs involved having to do more rebuilding. He
doesn't want to get into that again. He wants to go where he can be
successful. " Sampson signed a contract extension this year that runs through
2000. His base pay at WSU is approximately $ 95,000. Including
perks, his salary is about $ 150,000. He also has a sizeable but
undisclosed annuity that will mature after the 1997-98 season.

If Sampson would come to OU, his total salary would at least
double. OU will offer a base pay of $ 110,000, but the total annual
package could increase to $ 400,000 or more with perks, i.e., shoe
contracts, camps, clinics and TV-radio deals.

Sampson has been a head coach for 11 seasons. He was 73-45
(66-25 after a 7-20 first season) in four years (1982-85) at
Montana Tech. He has gone 103-103 in seven seasons at WSU. The
Cougars' records have been 20-11 (last season), 15-12, 22-11 and
16-12 the past four seasons.

WSU returns three starters next season, plus a recruiting class
that has been rated 18th nationally. WSU, located in small Pullman
(8,000 population, not incuding 17,000 WSU students), is difficult
to recruit to, as the nearest full service airport is 80 miles of
two-lane road away, in Spokane.

OU athletic director Donnie Duncan could not be reached for
comment Friday night. Earlier, he said there have been 35 to 50
"prospects" considered and that the list would be trimmed to 10 to
15 "serious prospects," then approximately six "candidates. "
Duncan has interviewed current OU assistants Mike Anderson and
Mike Mims, and Tulsa head coach Tubby Smith. Duncan also has
received permission to contact Saint Louis head coach Charlie
Spoonhour.

"There have been contacts from the pros, from head coaches, from
assistant coaches, and from former head coaches in the pros,"
Duncan said.


"We've covered the nation with the help of some people that are
prominent and active in basketball circles on a national basis. A
lot of calls have been made by them. It's impossible for us by
ourselves to cover what we've covered in the short period of time
that we've covered it. "
 
Here is an excerpt from one other article a couple days before Sampson was hired:

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Joining Sampson and Spoonhour on the first tier of OU candidates
may be coaches Perry Clark of Tulane, Scott Edgar of Murray State and
Marty Fletcher of Southwestern Louisiana.

Clark has an 81-66 record in five years at Tulane; former
Arkansas assistant Edgar is 58-31 in three years at Murray State;
and Sooner slayer Fletcher, who upset OU in the 1991 regular season
and 1992 NCAA Tournament, is 141-96 in eight years at USL.

Other coaches who may be considered by OU include two former
Sooner head coaches - New Mexico's Dave Bliss and Notre Dame's John
McLeod - and both current OU assisants, Mike Anderson and Mike Mims.

Other OU candidates include head coaches Jim Crews of Evansville
and Tim Floyd of New Orleans; and Duke assistant Tommy Amaker.
 
Tubby was the only other one to whom the job was offered. I think he accepted at first then backed out really soon at least that was the rumor I heard.

Spoonhour, a former OU assistant, was not interested but a lot of donors weren't interested in him either. His slow down brand of basketball would have been a downer after the Fans were used to Tubbs style. Charlies teams at SW Mo routinely scored in the 40s and low 50s. They made Kelvins teams look like OU when Tubbs coached.

Clark was also a candidate but I'm glad we didn't get him. I never thought he was a great coach but he had a decent run at Tulane before bombing at Miami.

TCU was initially going to interview Mims when Tubbs asked if they would want to interview him. Duncan had informed Tubbs his contract would not be renewed so he was looking to get out. TCU of course jumped at the chance.

Some people were pushing for Anderson but he never was a serious candidate. I don't think he ever coached again after Tubbs left OU because only Mims went with Tubbs, not Anderson. Kind of like the Seltzer deal when Kelvin left for IU.
 
Tubby was the only other one to whom the job was offered. I think he accepted at first then backed out really soon at least that was the rumor I heard.

Spoonhour, a former OU assistant, was not interested but a lot of donors weren't interested in him either. His slow down brand of basketball would have been a downer after the Fans were used to Tubbs style. Charlies teams at SW Mo routinely scored in the 40s and low 50s. They made Kelvins teams look like OU when Tubbs coached.

Clark was also a candidate but I'm glad we didn't get him. I never thought he was a great coach but he had a decent run at Tulane before bombing at Miami.

TCU was initially going to interview Mims when Tubbs asked if they would want to interview him. Duncan had informed Tubbs his contract would not be renewed so he was looking to get out. TCU of course jumped at the chance.

Some people were pushing for Anderson but he never was a serious candidate. I don't think he ever coached again after Tubbs left OU because only Mims went with Tubbs, not Anderson. Kind of like the Seltzer deal when Kelvin left for IU.

Im a Big KS fan, but what would you call his style?
 
Tubby was the only other one to whom the job was offered. I think he accepted at first then backed out really soon at least that was the rumor I heard.

Spoonhour, a former OU assistant, was not interested but a lot of donors weren't interested in him either. His slow down brand of basketball would have been a downer after the Fans were used to Tubbs style. Charlies teams at SW Mo routinely scored in the 40s and low 50s. They made Kelvins teams look like OU when Tubbs coached.

Clark was also a candidate but I'm glad we didn't get him. I never thought he was a great coach but he had a decent run at Tulane before bombing at Miami.

TCU was initially going to interview Mims when Tubbs asked if they would want to interview him. Duncan had informed Tubbs his contract would not be renewed so he was looking to get out. TCU of course jumped at the chance.

Some people were pushing for Anderson but he never was a serious candidate. I don't think he ever coached again after Tubbs left OU because only Mims went with Tubbs, not Anderson. Kind of like the Seltzer deal when Kelvin left for IU.

that's cold. would love to hear mike's true feelings about that back-sta.....i mean, situation.
 
Im a Big KS fan, but what would you call his style?

Sampsons teams scored in the 70's/80's most times with a number of 60's and some 40's or 50's.

Spoonhour hardly ever scored above 54 or 55. Most of his games were in the 40's or 50's. It was a grind it out style and made Sampsons teams look like the lakers or celtics.
 
that's cold. would love to hear mike's true feelings about that back-sta.....i mean, situation.

The story back then was TCU called Tubbs to ask if they could inquire about interviewing Mike Mims. Tubbs then went to Duncan to ask if Mims could interview and Duncan asked Tubbs, "Do you think they would want to interview you?", then he told Tubbs his contract wasn't going to be renewed, so Tubbs called TCU back and asked if they would want to interview him instead. The rest is history.
 
I defy anyone to watch this game from Sampson's first year and declare it a grind-it-out style of play.

There was a period at OU when his offense got bogged down and pretty tough to watch, but early on it really wasn't like that at all.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rc1vE4xf2I[/ame]
 
Our average score over the course of Tubbs' tenure was 90-79.

During Sampson's tenure, it was 74-65.

The winning margins compare very favorably, and the level of scoring during Sampson's time in Norman is higher than I think many of our fans -- especially the Sampson naysayers -- might guess.
 
I mean, I don't think anyone would say we've been a grind-it-out team over the past five years, but our average score under Coach Capel is 71-66.
 
When Sampson had good players we scored plenty of points. His first team averaged 82 points a game. His second posted 79 a pop. The Final Four team of 2002 averaged 78 and the Big 12 Championship team of 2005 averaged 75.

Billy could live with a guy who couldn't defend as long as he could fill it up. Kelvin just couldn't handle it, so he'd grind out those victories with the tenacious players who gave their all on defense.

Both played winning basketball, that's for sure.
 
I always thought Donnie Duncan signed a really good baseketball coach purely by accident. As an AD, Duncan couldn't find his butt with both hands. :(
 
I always thought Donnie Duncan signed a really good baseketball coach purely by accident. As an AD, Duncan couldn't find his butt with both hands. :(

I was never a Donnie Duncan fan, but he hired 2 good basketball coaches. You have already mentioned Sampson, but he also made the hire of the century for womens basketball by giving high school coach Sherri Coale a chance at the major college level. I think Marita Hynes is who actually recommended her to Duncan, so she probably should get the credit, but Duncan was in charge and had to sign-off on the hire. That more than made up for his decision a few years earlier to cancel the program.
 
When Sampson had good players we scored plenty of points. His first team averaged 82 points a game. His second posted 79 a pop. The Final Four team of 2002 averaged 78 and the Big 12 Championship team of 2005 averaged 75.

Billy could live with a guy who couldn't defend as long as he could fill it up. Kelvin just couldn't handle it, so he'd grind out those victories with the tenacious players who gave their all on defense.

Both played winning basketball, that's for sure.

In that KU game referenced above, it had a graphic that OU was the 2nd highest scoring team in the Big 8 that season, only behind KU at 84 ppg.

I thought Sampson's early teams were hampered with the injury to Bobby Joe Evans. I think those teams would have scored more points and been very good with his scoring presence inside.
 
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