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[BCSooners]

A subjective opinion with absolutely zero factual support wins an argument in your eyes? Interesting.

I can’t wait to see the reactions if KU gets severe sanctions. I’d guess a lot of people will think nothing is sufficient unless it includes Bill Self being deported and the school never being allowed to play another basketball game. I’m still waiting for any response to the actual facts that I’ve presented regarding all the blue bloods who have been banned from the tournament and forced to vacate FF appearances. I’d also be curious to know how many people actually read the NCAA reports in their entirety when a school is investigated. How many of you actually know the details of the UNC deal? And by the way, I hate UNC more than any program except KU, so I would be the happiest guy on here if either of them drop off the planet.

I hate after the fact punishments. Vacating wins & FF doesn’t change the feeling KU had in those wins, and doesn’t change that another team didn’t make the FF. Take away those wins and punish them for the future harshly.

 

[thebigabd]

It's not about winning an argument. All we're saying is that if the NCAA is going to punish a blue blood program, it should take them at least 5 years to get back to playing like a blue blood You keep referencing Kansas not participating in the 1989 NCAA Tournament. Did you know that at some point during the 1990 season, they were ranked #1 in the country? That could never happen with a severe punishment. Scholarships would be reduced, players would be transferring, etc.

Think OU football during that same timeframe. Our punishment was severe (a blue blood yes, but the NCAA didn't like us suing them earlier that decade) and it took several years to start playing like a blue blood again. Even if Gary Gibbs was an elite head coach, the earliest reasonable timeframe which OU could have been competing for National Championships was YEAR FIVE. That's basically what I would like to see with the blue bloods who are cheating in college basketball.

I think this is pretty reasonable.

 

[WichitaSooner]

It's not about winning an argument. All we're saying is that if the NCAA is going to punish a blue blood program, it should take them at least 5 years to get back to playing like a blue blood You keep referencing Kansas not participating in the 1989 NCAA Tournament. Did you know that at some point during the 1990 season, they were ranked #1 in the country? That could never happen with a severe punishment. Scholarships would be reduced, players would be transferring, etc.

Think OU football during that same timeframe. Our punishment was severe (a blue blood yes, but the NCAA didn't like us suing them earlier that decade) and it took several years to start playing like a blue blood again. Even if Gary Gibbs was an elite head coach, the earliest reasonable timeframe which OU could have been competing for National Championships was YEAR FIVE. That's basically what I would like to see with the blue bloods who are cheating in college basketball.

That’s pretty much what they did to UK in ‘88. Blood doesn’t get much bluer than that. Two-year postseason ban and no national TV for a season. It took them several years to get back to being a legit title contender.

 

[WaymanFan]

That’s pretty much what they did to UK in ‘88. Blood doesn’t get much bluer than that. Two-year postseason ban and no national TV for a season. It took them several years to get back to being a legit title contender.

Yes, that is true. They did nail Kentucky pretty good...likely because they didn't have a choice when it became public that a pile of cash from Eddie Sutton assistant Dwayne Casey was sent to the wrong address. However, it just wasn't even close to enough of a deterrent to other major programs...really wish they would have sent Kansas a message by now. We're all hoping you are right and they'll do it this time - but most of us will remain skeptical.