Sherri is WAY over paid! Why...

[Vinny78]

Suprised Bay hasn't weighed in on this.

Obviously Joe C disagrees with Vinny. Let's see. How many winning coaches has Vinny hired.

So for a million bucks you think this is what we should have? Following up on last year. Oh I guess Joe C is the end all be all haha. I think everyone makes mistakes and in his case it is worrying that she would leave and giving her too much money - tell me any school that would come and try to hire her away. Not even for a million - how about $500,000? No one. She is outside her pay scale- again all you haters, what is on the market for a million per? If you will be honest, and most of you won't, many better options.

 

[tycat947]

Vinnys back. That means OU lost. No other comment necessary.

Ain't it the truth???

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[Vinny78]

Give it time! The non-regular posters just sit and wait for this! Glad we kept them off as long as we did!

Joe C is the best AD in the business!

He's good but not the best. I see a lot better programs out there right now.
AND he makes mistakes like ALL of us!

And I have been on this board for 7+ years and go to many games. You all need a bigger dose of Non-regular posters as all you do is sit around and sing happy songs. Obviously none of you are managers in the real world since you don't understand how to look at the job someone's doing and evaluate it - you sunshine pumpers just sit there and say "yeah". And I laugh at you!

 

[Vinny78]

Ain't it the truth???

:ez-roll::ez-roll::ez-roll:

947 and Syb can't handle the truth - never have been able to!

 

[Vinny78]

Suprised Bay hasn't weighed in on this.

Obviously Joe C disagrees with Vinny. Let's see. How many winning coaches has Vinny hired.

By the way, I had some time with Joe C the other day and we DID discuss it. You all just sit here in your computer world singing happy songs.

By the way, he knows the situation isn't the best.

Also, Holder is in a similar bad spot in Stoolwater by overreacting and giving Ford too much and too long. Just sayin

 

[sybarite]

I've had Vinny on ignore for some time. So, it is always like a @^!#$( when I see one.

 

[Soonerbay]

Suprised Bay hasn't weighed in on this.

Obviously Joe C disagrees with Vinny. Let's see. How many winning coaches has Vinny hired.

Yawnnn! You should not be surprised. I voiced my concerns years ago and said these days (empty seats, lack of AA's and top notch recruiting, etc) were coming. It's not rocket science. You can't "luck up" on some top players and think you can sit on your laurels.

EDIT: IMHO...JoeC surely realizes he paid too much too soon. Should have paid bonus/incentive base vs salary until there was some consistency in FF's and then kick in the NC salary AFTER a NC was won. But hey...SC must have a crafty agent. Now, they are stuck with how to gracefully get out of the mess made. Call Texas and find out what their PR plan was for JConradt. Oh...but she won a NC. Just saying...

 

[badger]

Look, I'm sad that we haven't beaten Baylor since 2010 also. I just got done ranting about it at the other board.

But I think Sherri gets a pass for not making the Final Four every year even if she's paid like a Final-Four-every-year coach. She had a few down years in recruiting recently and had to deal with poorly timed injuries and we're still recovering (i.e. we have only one senior on the roster this year in Sharane).

I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, unlike the other OU program where fans are crying "overpaid" at the coaching staff (hint: football). Things are looking up compared to last season. We're headed for the postseason. We're just on the outside of the top 25 and likely will be ranked again soon. We're one of the top teams in the conference. We're still respected nationallly. Give Sherri a break.*

*Unless we nosedive in February/March, don't even make the WNIT or off-court issues arise that are inexcusable.

 

[Sooner04]

Your a Moron, lol.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but I love these.

 

[Vinny78]

I don't have a dog in the fight, but I love these.

Haha, there's no fight. I just give it back when it is passed out. it's all the butt kissers that hate to hear Real constructive analysis. Just like SoonerBay said - they come at you Everytime lol.

And Syb, PLEASE keep me on ignore so I don't have to see your crap :ez-laugh:

 

[Sooners4Life0101]

It was one game......... We are still second in conference......... Are best players are freshman and Sophomores.......... We are fine.

 

[Vinny78]

It was one game......... We are still second in conference......... Are best players are freshman and Sophomores.......... We are fine.

It is 5 years not one game. Have you watched this team ? WOW

 

[Sooners4Life0101]

I wouldn't take too many shots before Baylor has to come to Norman.

 

[badger]

It is 5 years not one game. Have you watched this team ? WOW

Tap the brakes. We made the Sweet 16 twice in that five-year span since the last Final Four trip. Not too shabby.

I get that last year was unacceptable and being outside the top 25 is undesirable. Light years behind Baylor. Yeah. But I still think there's an inkling of hope that better days are ahead this season and next.

 

[BanjoCharley]

So Vinny, your opening post implies that if Sherri's salary was cut to $300,000, you would be happy with last nights game, am I right?

 

[Vinny78]

So Vinny, your opening post implies that if Sherri's salary was cut to $300,000, you would be happy with last nights game, am I right?

Never Banjo, my point is that that is the level of coaching and recruiting we are getting. And the previous comment from someone else saying 2 sweet 16's in 5 years (one was because we had it on our home floor I think) - well 2 sweet 16's in 5 years is not 1,000,000 per year worthy. She's in the top 5 pay and we are getting about 25th type coaching. If it was ONE or TWO years I could give a little BUT 5 yes 5 years being down and the Whole program - attendance, etc - is showing it. Some on this board recognize it and admit it but most are butt kissers who will never say anything constructive and the others who recognize it won't say it anymore because they get attacked just like I have - and I knew I would and WHO would do the attacking.

 

[badger]

She's in the top 5 pay and we are getting about 25th type coaching

This is not so much an OU problem nor a women's basketball problem as it is a college coaching compensation in general problem. Coaches are paid on potential or on what they have done in the past, rather than a pay-for-performance incentive-driven contract that you see commonly in NFL player contracts.

Sure, coaches will have bonuses written in to contracts, but not at the expense of guaranteed year by year compensation. This is an industry-wide standard.

 

[Sooner Cal]

I couldn't agree more. And it gets worse, we subsidize it. Today, even youth teams pay their coaches. Parents think paying gets them better coaches, which is complete bunk. There are a lot of bad coaches and that's what makes the averag ones look better than they are.

Bob is very well paid, but he does have a multi-million dollar business and is responsible for 150 to 200 people. Women's basketball, as much as I enjoy it, doesn't come close to generating the revenue or have the responsibility. I don't fault Stoops or Coale for taking the money, I fault a system that puts more emphasis on entertainment than on more importent needs of society.

Well in the big scheme of the world all coaches are overpaid - way overpaid.

But that is due to the values of members of our society - including you - by suggesting coaches are worth $300,000 per year. How many social workers have you argued for making $300,000 per year - or even $50,000? We would much rather reward a coach than a couple who foster disadvantaged kids - often literally saving their lives. Coaches are valued by parents far more than teachers who spend a career teaching their kids. Etc. It goes on and on. Most members of American society think coaches & athletes are better people, more worthy, more to be worshiped than anyone else in society. Otherwise they would not allow the disparity in salaries. All societies do not do that - but our current one does.

However, Sherri is not the one responsible for that. If a person ever utters the words - "coaches and athletes are worth what they are paid" he/she is the ones responsible. Sherri brings a lot to the table for OU. Recruiting is tricky. If a person is unwilling to bring a lot of baggage (personality problems, drug problems, moral flaws, etc.) into their program it is harder to win.

I would argue the loss tonight is not to be laud totally on her shoulders. She was not the one who kept making stupid bounce passes into the middle of the lane. She did not throw the ball 60 feet down the court - creating a foolish turnover - when we were desperately trying to make a comeback. She did not shoot 53% at the line. She did not miss what felt like a million layups.

Admittedly everyone bears some responsibility - including the coaches. But I was impressed they found some inner reserve that kept them from getting destroyed in the 2nd half. Lesser character teams would have likely done that.

Let me be clear. I am not defending what the girls allowed to happen tonight. But the fact is Baylor played over their heads tonight. We played below ours. For a while we could not buy a basket - even on easy wide open shots. Choke a bit for a while? Maybe. Or perhaps just bad luck. Sometimes the shots just won't go in. I don't know which it was.

But the 2nd half we played them even (47-46). And Baylor never called off the dogs. They were still trying to run it up with a few seconds left. I can take some small amount of solace in that.

 

[YCN]

Sherri is the number 1 fund-raiser that OU has, annually. Her annual contribution to OU's budget - in athletics and elsewhere - Is way higher than any other fundraiser OU has.

Her salary is a pittance to what she's actually worth.

 

[SoonerNorm]

Sherri is the number 1 fund-raiser that OU has, annually. Her annual contribution to OU's budget - in athletics and elsewhere - Is way higher than any other fundraiser OU has.

Her salary is a pittance to what she's actually worth.

I've never heard that about Sherri. Do you have a link? If she raises money, does the money raised go into the women's basketball budget? If so, shouldn't their budget be in the black? Just curious.