SoonerTraveler
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If any human predictive formulation turns out to be half-right, then that far exceeds the average.
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We finished tenth behind nine other teams who mysteriously lost while we won our games. Fortunately we played the number one team in the nation our last two games. Florida was mysterious as well as they lost their last two games while we won our last two (three, four, five, six, seven I lose count.) Florida, because they couldn't beat the number ten team in two tries were hailed as the best team in the nation.
Due to some obscure rule about winning all of your games in th CWS the national championship was awarded to The University of Oklahoma. Basically, this was because no other team won all of its CWS games. The King is dead, oops, the king lives on.
Hope this helps.
Due to some obscure rule about winning all of your games in th CWS the national championship was awarded to The University of Oklahoma. Basically, this was because no other team won all of its CWS games. The King is dead, oops, the king lives on.
Hope this helps.
Carlee Wallace leaving Auburn. Something seems fishy with Myers and his program, to me.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/06/carlee_wallace_granted_release.html
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/06/carlee_wallace_granted_release.html
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In most cases, I prefer apples. Complex scientific analysis is something fools fall for simply because the believe numbers more than judgments.
Two examples. The complex model that predicted the earth would warm over the last 15 years. It didn't.
The econometric models that predicted inflation that hasn't occurred.
The RPI (not really complex) that predicted OU would lose in the Super Regional.
:ez-roll::ez-roll::ez-roll:
Don't be alarmed, Cal, but a certain poster will soon come around and explain why you are unable to comprehend his complex scientific analysis or grasp what his numbers are really telling you.
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ADMINS: Can we create a new Statistics Board?
TIA!
TIA!
http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/weeklyrpi/2017WSBrpi1.html
Now that the CWS is over, the rpi gives us a better picture of the comparative powers of the respective teams. Oklahoma would now be a six seed who would host a Super-Regional, presumably against LSU. Of course, the national championship contenders are now #3 and #6.
Now that the CWS is over, the rpi gives us a better picture of the comparative powers of the respective teams. Oklahoma would now be a six seed who would host a Super-Regional, presumably against LSU. Of course, the national championship contenders are now #3 and #6.
Interesting. Portland St, who had only 9 wins on the season, finished at 247. In last place at 295 was Grambling with 13 wins. S. Carolina St with only 2 wins finished at 294. I guess their 39 losses generated more RPI power than Grambling's 13 wins.
That's pretty absurd, seeing as we just won 7 in a row against 1, 3, 4, 7, and 9. I feel that even a computer should be able to figure out that our better record (other than Oregon) wasn't simply weaker competition after that.
If SCS lost once to each of the 13 SEC teams, they would have finished the regular season with the #14 RPI and hosted a regional. Six additional losses to the SEC would have moved them up to #8 RPI and a chance to host a SR.
If SCS lost once to each of the 13 SEC teams, they would have finished the regular season with the #14 RPI and hosted a regional. Six additional losses to the SEC would have moved them up to #8 RPI and a chance to host a SR.
:facepalm
This gives you a better relative picture.
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats Library/2017 SB Final Nitty Gritty.pdf
OU was really solid playing .750 ball against the Top 25 15-5. OU also had the most wins at 61 and the second highest W/L Pct behind Minnesota.
Contrary to what our local statistician (self proclaimed), the formula clusters with the adjustments and gives conference's an edge. The formula should provide greater weight to actually winning games. he biggest problem is no home/away adjustments but rather bonus points for victories regardless of where the games were played.
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats Library/2017 SB Final Nitty Gritty.pdf
OU was really solid playing .750 ball against the Top 25 15-5. OU also had the most wins at 61 and the second highest W/L Pct behind Minnesota.
Contrary to what our local statistician (self proclaimed), the formula clusters with the adjustments and gives conference's an edge. The formula should provide greater weight to actually winning games. he biggest problem is no home/away adjustments but rather bonus points for victories regardless of where the games were played.
This is your problem with the rpi formula as it is now devised. This is Alabama's non-conference schedule.
1. How many times did they go to the west coast?
2. How many teams in the top twenty-five did they play?
3. They played 21 games in Tuscaloosa (two against Washington, losing both)
4. They played three more in Birmingham
5. The only other sites: five in Conway, SC (against whom?) and three against Lafayette of Louisiana in Louisiana. This was their non-conference power schedule.
6. They were 26-4 in their non-conference schedule, losing four of five to Washington and Louisiana-Lafayette
7. Now, how in the world do you get them to contribute to a powerful non-conference foundation based on that? They played nobody, never went on the road except to Louisiana and Conway, SC for some nonsense games. If all SEC teams played this type of non-conference schedule, how would the conference get a high rpi in the first place?
They did. This is a rather typical SEC schedule. The Tulsa's of the world played tougher schedules. BYU should be ranked higher. Cal Poly should have been ranked higher than Bama. They played and beat nobody in preseason, nada.
http://www.rolltide.com/schedule.aspx?path=softball
Conway, SC
--Towson
--Coastal Carolina
--Towson
--Youngstown St
--coastal Carolina
Tuscaloosa--South Alabama
Lafayette LA
--Louisiana, Lafayette
--Louisiana, Lafayette
--Louisiana, Lafayette
Tuscaloosa
--North Florida
--Central Florida
--Texas Tech
--Gardner-Webb
--Texas Tech
--Central Florida
Birmingham, AL
--UAB
Tuscaloosa
--Drake
--Stanford
--Drake
--Jacksonville
--Loyola, Chicago
--Valparaiso
--Winthrop
--Georgia Southern
--Kent State
--Lipscomb
--UAB
--Southern Miss
--Washington
--Washington
Birmingham, AL--Samford
1. How many times did they go to the west coast?
2. How many teams in the top twenty-five did they play?
3. They played 21 games in Tuscaloosa (two against Washington, losing both)
4. They played three more in Birmingham
5. The only other sites: five in Conway, SC (against whom?) and three against Lafayette of Louisiana in Louisiana. This was their non-conference power schedule.
6. They were 26-4 in their non-conference schedule, losing four of five to Washington and Louisiana-Lafayette
7. Now, how in the world do you get them to contribute to a powerful non-conference foundation based on that? They played nobody, never went on the road except to Louisiana and Conway, SC for some nonsense games. If all SEC teams played this type of non-conference schedule, how would the conference get a high rpi in the first place?
They did. This is a rather typical SEC schedule. The Tulsa's of the world played tougher schedules. BYU should be ranked higher. Cal Poly should have been ranked higher than Bama. They played and beat nobody in preseason, nada.
http://www.rolltide.com/schedule.aspx?path=softball
Conway, SC
--Towson
--Coastal Carolina
--Towson
--Youngstown St
--coastal Carolina
Tuscaloosa--South Alabama
Lafayette LA
--Louisiana, Lafayette
--Louisiana, Lafayette
--Louisiana, Lafayette
Tuscaloosa
--North Florida
--Central Florida
--Texas Tech
--Gardner-Webb
--Texas Tech
--Central Florida
Birmingham, AL
--UAB
Tuscaloosa
--Drake
--Stanford
--Drake
--Jacksonville
--Loyola, Chicago
--Valparaiso
--Winthrop
--Georgia Southern
--Kent State
--Lipscomb
--UAB
--Southern Miss
--Washington
--Washington
Birmingham, AL--Samford
Look at Texas A&M's non-conference schedule and ask the same questions.
Texas A&M
http://www.12thman.com/schedule.aspx?path=softball
College Station:
--Lamar
--Central Michigan
--Ohio State
--Lamar
--Sam Houston State
--Stephen F. Austin
--Missouri State
--New Mexico
--Missouri State
--Stephen F. Austin
Cathedal City, CA
--Long Beach State
--FLORIDA STATE
--Arizona State
--BYU
--Michigan
College Station
--Houston (LOST this game)
--Texas San Antonio
--Georgetown
--Georgetown
--Texas San Antonio
Memphis, TN---Memphis State
College Station
--Prairie View A&M
--Texas State
--McNeese State
--Oklahoma State
--Oklahoma State
--Oklahoma State
--Louisiana-Lafayette (LOST this game)
Other than five games at Cathedral City and one at Memphis, they never left College Station. They played two top twenty-five teams, winning over Florida State, losing to Louisiana-Lafayette (at home).
Texas A&M
http://www.12thman.com/schedule.aspx?path=softball
College Station:
--Lamar
--Central Michigan
--Ohio State
--Lamar
--Sam Houston State
--Stephen F. Austin
--Missouri State
--New Mexico
--Missouri State
--Stephen F. Austin
Cathedal City, CA
--Long Beach State
--FLORIDA STATE
--Arizona State
--BYU
--Michigan
College Station
--Houston (LOST this game)
--Texas San Antonio
--Georgetown
--Georgetown
--Texas San Antonio
Memphis, TN---Memphis State
College Station
--Prairie View A&M
--Texas State
--McNeese State
--Oklahoma State
--Oklahoma State
--Oklahoma State
--Louisiana-Lafayette (LOST this game)
Other than five games at Cathedral City and one at Memphis, they never left College Station. They played two top twenty-five teams, winning over Florida State, losing to Louisiana-Lafayette (at home).
Yes, I've been talking for a few years now about the weak nonconference schedules of most of the SEC teams. The SEC has built it reputation almost entirely off the hype it receives from espn and other media. The conference typically has one very good team, and two or three good teams – perhaps a little better than Okie State and Texas, but not as good as Baylor. The rest of the conference is comparable to Kansas, Texas Tech and Iowa State.
RPI, as it has been calculated for several years, is a joke, because the numbers that go into determining it are phony.
Personally, I've stopped caring. The SEC-worshiping NCAA can calculate RPI and postseason seeding in whatever way it likes. As long as those idiots are unable to keep OU completely out of the tournament, our Sooners will continue to compete for a national title almost every year.
RPI, as it has been calculated for several years, is a joke, because the numbers that go into determining it are phony.
Personally, I've stopped caring. The SEC-worshiping NCAA can calculate RPI and postseason seeding in whatever way it likes. As long as those idiots are unable to keep OU completely out of the tournament, our Sooners will continue to compete for a national title almost every year.
OU against the Final RPI Top Ten
#1 Oregon 1-0 eliminating Oregon
#2 UCLA 1-0 Run Ruled UCLA
#3 Florida 2-0 eliminating Florida
#4 Washington 1-1 OU won in the WCWS sending Wash to losers bracket
#5 Arizona 0-1 Lost 4-3 in Cali in March
#7 Auburn 2-1 Sweep and eliminated Auburn in Auburn
#9 Baylor 3-1 OU won in WCWS sending Baylor to losers bracket 2-1 in conf.
Total 10 wins - 4 losses with 2 in Feb and 1 in March
Post Season - 6-0
There is no doubt to who the best team IS!!!!!!
Yet the Adjusted RPI finishes with OU in 6th and the plain RPI in 8th
#1 Oregon 1-0 eliminating Oregon
#2 UCLA 1-0 Run Ruled UCLA
#3 Florida 2-0 eliminating Florida
#4 Washington 1-1 OU won in the WCWS sending Wash to losers bracket
#5 Arizona 0-1 Lost 4-3 in Cali in March
#7 Auburn 2-1 Sweep and eliminated Auburn in Auburn
#9 Baylor 3-1 OU won in WCWS sending Baylor to losers bracket 2-1 in conf.
Total 10 wins - 4 losses with 2 in Feb and 1 in March
Post Season - 6-0
There is no doubt to who the best team IS!!!!!!
Yet the Adjusted RPI finishes with OU in 6th and the plain RPI in 8th
Oregon is the post season #1 Team in the RPI if this doesn't show it is a joke then nothing does. Against Top Ten RPI teams, OU is 10-4 vs Oregon 7-8. If you look at the non-conference schedule - OU played every bit as hard a schedule as Oregon. They lost one game outside of conference and it was OU.
# 2 UCLA 1-2
#4 Washington 1-3 Lost opener in WCWS
#5 Arizona 1-2
#6 Oklahoma 0-1 were eliminated by OU.
#8 Florida State 3-0
#9 Baylor 1-0 eliminated Baylor in WCWS
Total 7-8 Record vs Top Ten
Non-Conference Schedule
In Tempe
Virginia
Creighton
San Jose State
Fresno State
Seattle
Cal Poly
Nutter Classic
Kentucky
Kent State
Liberty
Cal State Northridge
Illinois
In Hawaii
Hawaii
Montana
UNLV
Montana
Hawaii
In Columbia, MO
Maryland
Mizzou
Mizzou
Butler
Stephen F. Austin
At Home
Hofstra
Idaho State
Idaho State
Pacific
Hofstra
BYU
Portland State
Portland State Here is that team with only 9 wins
Florida State
Florida State
Florida State
# 2 UCLA 1-2
#4 Washington 1-3 Lost opener in WCWS
#5 Arizona 1-2
#6 Oklahoma 0-1 were eliminated by OU.
#8 Florida State 3-0
#9 Baylor 1-0 eliminated Baylor in WCWS
Total 7-8 Record vs Top Ten
Non-Conference Schedule
In Tempe
Virginia
Creighton
San Jose State
Fresno State
Seattle
Cal Poly
Nutter Classic
Kentucky
Kent State
Liberty
Cal State Northridge
Illinois
In Hawaii
Hawaii
Montana
UNLV
Montana
Hawaii
In Columbia, MO
Maryland
Mizzou
Mizzou
Butler
Stephen F. Austin
At Home
Hofstra
Idaho State
Idaho State
Pacific
Hofstra
BYU
Portland State
Portland State Here is that team with only 9 wins
Florida State
Florida State
Florida State
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