Steve Henson

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Let’s bring him back to Norman as our HBC. He made LK look much better than what he is. Our guards were so much better when he was here as well. Time to retire, Lon. Go enjoy your millions!
 
it's gonna happen eventually. he's a good coach and great teacher.
 
We have no idea if he made Lon look good or not. Lon had some college basketball success before Henson was on his staff. If Henson is that good, he'll do well at the job he has now and make it a no-brainer.
 
Yeah he’s really setting the world on fire at utsa with that 12-10 record. Henson was an unbelievable assistant but he has not shown he is the answer as our next HC.
 
I’d rather have Fred hoiberg or Eric Musselman.
 
Our assistants were terrible today. Crutch went 1-10 and missed a wide open layup, and Kevin and Hartman went 3-10 from the line in the first half and got dominated on the glass. Clearly their fault. Henson would have banged in a couple big threes.

At some point, coaches can only do so much. When your so called best player goes in the tank for over a month and other seniors can't play well on any consistent basis, I'm not sure where coaches can turn.
 
Our assistants were terrible today. Crutch went 1-10 and missed a wide open layup, and Kevin and Hartman went 3-10 from the line in the first half and got dominated on the glass. Clearly their fault. Henson would have banged in a couple big threes.

At some point, coaches can only do so much. When your so called best player goes in the tank for over a month and other seniors can't play well on any consistent basis, I'm not sure where coaches can turn.

The bottom line is this team is devoid of talent. Very few of these guys would start at the top 5 Big 12 teams this season. Doolittle, maybe, is the only one I think and at times he loses his mind. Bieniemy would in time be that good. Those are our 2 best talents though. Everyone else is flawed.

The international guys may be the 3 worst playes on the team (scholarship) and that's saying something. Whoever scouted those guys needs to be fired.
 
Our assistants were terrible today. Crutch went 1-10 and missed a wide open layup, and Kevin and Hartman went 3-10 from the line in the first half and got dominated on the glass. Clearly their fault. Henson would have banged in a couple big threes.

At some point, coaches can only do so much. When your so called best player goes in the tank for over a month and other seniors can't play well on any consistent basis, I'm not sure where coaches can turn.

I agree.....at some point these players (whether they are talented or not is another conversation) have to make shots, get rebounds, make good decisions and play hard. These players don't do any of those things particularly well. There really isn't much that coaching can do to fix those things except stress fundamentals, positioning, and repetition. And they can bench a player if he isn't playing hard. Outside of that, I think the solution is that we need to get much better players on our roster.

But Lon and his staff certainly deserve their share of the blame for recruiting this mess of a team.
 
I dont blame our coaches for the bad play. I blame them for recruiting like garbage. We have 4 big 12 players, and only a couple of them are good enough to start in the big 12. Id fire Lon after this year if we didnt risk losing the supposed good class coming in next year.

If we are not significantly better next year, Lon needs to be gone.
 
The COACHES aren't the ones missing wide open effin shots!!!! How hard is it for some of you to understand that??!!
 
The COACHES aren't the ones missing wide open effin shots!!!! How hard is it for some of you to understand that??!!

Well, the coaches are responsible for the product on the court. They scout and recruit the players. They teach and develop the players. They create the game plan and make adjustments and COACH.

This isn’t 1 game. It’s a 3 year trend and the coaches ABSOLUTELY are responsible for it. How hard is it for some of you to understand that??!!
 
The COACHES aren't the ones missing wide open effin shots!!!! How hard is it for some of you to understand that??!!

They are responsible for recruiting the players "missing wide open effin shots". Try again.
 
Well, the coaches are responsible for the product on the court. They scout and recruit the players. They teach and develop the players. They create the game plan and make adjustments and COACH.

This isn’t 1 game. It’s a 3 year trend and the coaches ABSOLUTELY are responsible for it. How hard is it for some of you to understand that??!!

I don't necessarily disagree that they are ultimately responsible for the product on the court. What I find interesting is that no one points to coaching when we are winning. A lot of posters seem to think that when we lose it is because of coaching, but when we win, it is in spite of coaching.
 
The bottom line is this team is devoid of talent. Very few of these guys would start at the top 5 Big 12 teams this season.

It is impossible for any of us as fans to know for sure, but I sure as heck think those guys look bad b/c of coaching. None of them were great coming out of HS maybe, but OU has won A LOT of games with similar talent over the years. But you know what? Our HC actually has to coach this kind of talent up. Can't just stick it out on the court and say tell them to go play. That is what Lon is doing.
 
It is impossible for any of us as fans to know for sure, but I sure as heck think those guys look bad b/c of coaching. None of them were great coming out of HS maybe, but OU has won A LOT of games with similar talent over the years. But you know what? Our HC actually has to coach this kind of talent up. Can't just stick it out on the court and say tell them to go play. That is what Lon is doing.

How do you know this? If you regularly attend practice or are in the huddle at games, I apologize for questioning you, but otherwise, how can any of us think we really know what efforts they make to develop players behind the scenes or coach them during games? Or do we just assume that in order to "coach 'em up," a coach has to yell and scream and run around the sideline calling attention to himself? I think it is fair to argue that the past two classes of seniors haven't improved as much as they should. But before that, every group under Lon had. Buddy and Isaiah most obviously, but they were not the only ones.
 
Think I’ll pass on Steve. Know he hasn’t been there that long but his team looked like a bunch of non athletic rec dudes. No thanks.
 
How do you know this? If you regularly attend practice or are in the huddle at games, I apologize for questioning you, but otherwise, how can any of us think we really know what efforts they make to develop players behind the scenes or coach them during games? Or do we just assume that in order to "coach 'em up," a coach has to yell and scream and run around the sideline calling attention to himself? I think it is fair to argue that the past two classes of seniors haven't improved as much as they should. But before that, every group under Lon had. Buddy and Isaiah most obviously, but they were not the only ones.

Not sure why you feel like you have to defend the program and Lon like you do, but suffice it to say, I disagree. I know what I see. I've been watching basketball, and more specifically, OU basketball, for a long time. I think if you look back at Lon's career, it kind of speaks to what I'm saying. A lot of ups and downs. Rarely any consistency. And he's never been known as a great or even good X's and O's guys. He puts his player-driven system in, then turns them loose. That is what he does. Any tweaks or changes he makes are almost always minimal. That might fly when you have a senior like Hield on the team, or if you have Duke-like talent, but it doesn't work with the talent OU is going to have on the roster most years. OU needs a guy like a Sampson, or a Dixon, or the TT coach. Guys that clearly and obviously influence the style and demeanor of the team. Not just at times, but ALL the time.
 
How do you know this? If you regularly attend practice or are in the huddle at games, I apologize for questioning you, but otherwise, how can any of us think we really know what efforts they make to develop players behind the scenes or coach them during games? Or do we just assume that in order to "coach 'em up," a coach has to yell and scream and run around the sideline calling attention to himself? I think it is fair to argue that the past two classes of seniors haven't improved as much as they should. But before that, every group under Lon had. Buddy and Isaiah most obviously, but they were not the only ones.

Oh, and follow up question. If I don't have the info to know I'm right, how do YOU know I'm wrong?
 
OU needs a guy like a Sampson, or a Dixon, or the TT coach. Guys that clearly and obviously influence the style and demeanor of the team. Not just at times, but ALL the time.

yep. Jamie Dixon, imo, does an excellent job at TCU and Beard is an ace at running things tight. couldnt agree more.
 
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