The NBA Playoffs/Thunder/Blake Thread

SoonerBounce13 said:
lol he did. I mean it hit the backboard but it was obvious the shot was affeted
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I was meaning he would have missed everything completely. And considering how badly Westbrook misses 3 pointers from time to time, I wouldn't offer that as proof of a foul. Like I said, he likely barely grazed his arm. He didn't full palm his arm/elbow like you posted.
 
From my view:

1.) By the rules, it's definitely Thunder ball. The refs are technically correct in their memo, nothing is conclusive on if it goes on Reggie...all we can do is assume his palm hits to force it straight out of bounds. Under replay, that is not conclusive, you have to see contact. But like the first sentence says, it doesn't matter because of the rule. I also don't think that's a foul. Another valid question is why is Reggie not dishing that..it was a 3 on 1. Very lucky.

2.) CP3 got enough of the elbow to alter the shot, correct call. Look at Steph Curry's game winning attempt in the last series, CP3 gets under the shooter and got away with one there, he didn't last night.

Side note: how stupid was that shot? I cringe a Scott Brooks last second play out of a timeout, but man, that was one absolutely terrible decision by RW. Thank God Paul bailed him out.

3.) Tough to see in real time, but CP3 got fouled on the drive, it wasn't any more contact than he had on RW's elbow, but the ball did pop out because of it. Tough break for the Clips.

All of this doesn't happen though if CP3 just takes the foul in the backcourt. Anytime everyone starts jumping on the refs, there is usually a bonehead play which leads to the scrum, this is no different. Like Kenny Smith said, it was like watching the bball IQ of some youth league participants, not professionals. Not sure either team deserved to win.
 
campbest said:
From my view:

1.) By the rules, it's definitely Thunder ball. The refs are technically correct in their memo, nothing is conclusive on if it goes on Reggie...all we can do is assume his palm hits to force it straight out of bounds. Under replay, that is not conclusive, you have to see contact. But like the first sentence says, it doesn't matter because of the rule. I also don't think that's a foul. Another valid question is why is Reggie not dishing that..it was a 3 on 1. Very lucky.

2.) CP3 got enough of the elbow to alter the shot, correct call. Look at Steph Curry's game winning attempt in the last series, CP3 gets under the shooter and got away with one there, he didn't last night.

Side note: how stupid was that shot? I cringe a Scott Brooks last second play out of a timeout, but man, that was one absolutely terrible decision by RW. Thank God Paul bailed him out.

3.) Tough to see in real time, but CP3 got fouled on the drive, it wasn't any more contact than he had on RW's elbow, but the ball did pop out because of it. Tough break for the Clips.

All of this doesn't happen though if CP3 just takes the foul in the backcourt. Anytime everyone starts jumping on the refs, there is usually a bonehead play which leads to the scrum, this is no different. Like Kenny Smith said, it was like watching the bball IQ of some youth league participants, not professionals. Not sure either team deserved to win.
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Agreed.
 
snydrosooner said:
Per the annoucers last night it was called flagrent because he pushed down on the off shoulder that did not have the ball, thus not a play on the ball causing the flagrent foul. There was not hit to the head that caused the flagrent foul. Maybe contact was made, but not why the flagrent was called.
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Please stop listening to the announcers regarding rules and enforcement...many don't know anything. JVG is a prime offender of this. Kerr didn't know the rule about hitting the hand from the Jackson play.
 
From Grantland.

Andrew Sharp: Well, watching Chris Paul was a hell of a ride … as long as you’re OK with a fiery crash at the end. OKC came out flat last night, Blake and the Clippers’ shooters both showed up to take the pressure off Paul, and they had the game won when Paul hit a dagger jumper to put them up seven with 49 seconds left. Then:

You couldn’t have imagined a worse ending for any player. Everything that makes Paul’s pissed-off game kinda obnoxious — the flopping, getting away with calls, over-dribbling — suddenly started working against him.

When he flopped into Russell Westbrook for the intentional foul, there was no call and he lost the ball. Then came the Reggie Jackson controversy that gave OKC a shot to lead or tie, and CP3’s trademark sneaky hit on the elbow gave Russ three free throws to take the lead. It was the exact same move that didn’t get called in Golden State. Then at the end, with one last chance, Paul dribbled into the lane, got hit on the wrist by Reggie Jackson, and the ball bobbled out of bounds without his ever getting a shot off.

It was like karma finally caught up with him all at once.

If you’ve spent the last few years hating Chris Paul, it was glorious. I’m sure it was excruciating for Clippers fans. For everyone else, this was just incredible. Forget the refs for a second — we just watched one of the best point guards of all time give away a playoff game almost by himself.

Everything he’d done before only makes it crazier. We got 61 assists and nine turnovers in the first five games, 23 points a game on 54 percent shooting … and then those final 13 seconds.

That’s when I remembered that, as much as I love watching pissed-off Chris Paul go crazy and take over games, the flip side is that sometimes he tries to do too much, he tries to be too smart, and it all gets counterproductive. That’s always been true with CP3, I know. But man. We’ve never seen it get counterproductive like THAT.
 
I counted about three times last night in the 4th where out of a timeout the best play the thunder could get was a pass inbounds 3 feet behind the three point line with someobdy draped all over him.

on the other end, it seemed that the clips always got a wide open look on an inbounds play.

It can't really be that hard to draw up plays can it? You have unlimited video out there to copy. At some point I have to start thinking it is on the players not executing.
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
It can't really be that hard to draw up plays can it? You have unlimited video out there to copy. At some point I have to start thinking it is on the players not executing.
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Players have a hand in it, but they are in the minority.
 
All this talk about the officiating is nonsense. Bottom line is that Paul froze in the moment and totally gagged. They had the ball up 2 with less than 20 seconds and he jumped up in the air out of control and threw the ball away trying to get a continuation foul 60 feet from the basket. Possibly the dumbest basketball play you would ever see in a high school game let alone the NBA.
 
lol at matt barnes tweeting "There’s no question this went off my hand last right? #— outahere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

there doesn't have to be "no question" that it went off of you
 
152219 said:
He may have barely grazed his elbow. And Jackson hitting Paul's arm is what popped the ball loose.
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Looked to me like Paul just fumbled the ball more than anything. Couldn't tell if Jackson made contact or not, but he didn't hit his elbow on a jumpshot right in front of the official.
 
steverocks35 said:
Looked to me like Paul just fumbled the ball more than anything. Couldn't tell if Jackson made contact or not, but he didn't hit his elbow on a jumpshot right in front of the official.
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He made contact but it was after CP3 had lost control. It had no bearing on the play
 
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