I'm not fine with another year, regardless.. but i recognize the $$ bind that joe c has put the entire university in for no reason whatsoever except for incompetence (needless extensions)
Last year’s team lacked shooting. Uzan & Oweh went to elite shooting teams and those rosters fit their game well. The previous iteration wasn’t athletic enough. Last year’s team couldn’t shoot. This year seems to be a better mix but we play against better or more mature talent on a pretty regular basis.
Your post highlights the problem. We have not had an identity under Moser at all. It's like he doesn't quite know what he wants but he overcorrects every year and we are way too reliant on one style of play. It's hard to build any consistency that way. Couple in his horrid record with roster retention and the fact that few players have progressed from year 1 to year 2 under him, I'm not sure why so many people are still willing to keep him around. I was all on board the Moser train until this year. I've seen enough to be willing to give someone else a shot.
Come on…
I don’t have a problem with people wanting a coaching change. I’m skeptical of the results of a change without significant commitment to funding the program but understand the frustration. I disagree with most on the development topic. I can’t take people citing Alston Mason or Kaden Cooper as development failures seriously. It’s also true that Otega Oweh & Milos Uzan improved their games from years 1-2, but we don’t contextualize it well. Responsibility plays a factor. Both players were counted on to shoulder more of the load & weren’t quite up to the task, but they were both absolutely better basketball players than the year before (and again, the roster fit wasn’t great so those abilities shine brighter in their current situations). I also think retention is largely affected by money, especially when you’ve, to the point of many, recruited young & talented players. Roster turnover and an inability to be real selective makes it hard to create that identity you’re talking about. You have to make the pieces fit and it’s easier to do that when you can afford the pieces you want.
Well that’s interesting timing since an hour ago, the tweet came out that our women are one of two front runners for the number one recruit, who is commanding a $1.5M NIL package. So I’m sure now there will be more spin to come.
i wonder if that is 1.5 mil for 4 years ?? 375k per ?
We were talking portal. Yes Chavez will get cannady money
Annual it sounds like.
I mean, you either have the money or you don’t. If our women’s team can pay $1.5 for a high school recruit, it makes me wonder even more about the claims that our men’s team only has a couple bags of airline pretzels to offer players.
if that is true it is part of the failure of Joe C ... he leaves current NIL funding almost entirely to the coaches / programs ..
3.5x our entire roster.
But it sure would be an indictment of Moser. Let’s be honest, it should be much easier to generate donations for a men’s team than a women’s team, given the relative interest in the two sports. Not saying this to take a shot at the women’s game, but clearly there are a lot more people who closely follows men’s basketball than women’s.
Looking at conference play, both Uzan and Oweh's sophomore years underperformed their freshman years.
| Stat | Freshman | Sophomore |
| Effective FG% | 52.0% (73rd percentile) | 44.2 % (26th percentile) |
| Turnover % | 23.7% (9th percentile) | 17.5% (26th percentile) |
| FT Attempt Rate | 15.5% (17th percentile) | 9.9% (6th percentile) |
| Free Throw % | 73.9% (46th percentile) | 76.5% (54th percentile) |
| Ast/Tov Ratio | 1.02x (40th percentile) | 2.21x (91st percentile) |
| Stat | Freshman | Sophomore |
| Effective FG% | 44.0% (25th percentile) | 38.2% (8th percentile) |
| Turnover % | 18.5% (28th percentile) | 11.2% (75th percentile) |
| FT Attempt Rate | 49.4% (93rd percentile) | 41.9% (83rd percentile) |
| Free Throw % | 70.7% (37th percentile) | 54.8% (9th percentile) |
| 3PT % | 25.0% (15th percentile) | 20.6% (9th percentile) |
absolutely he (and Joe C) has driven interest in OU mens basketball to close to an all time low ..
I've seen Chavez play in person several times, since my daughter also plays AAU ball and we've been at some of the same tournies (no, my daughter's teams never played against her). She is the REAL DEAL! I'm not saying at all that she won't get that kind of $, but there's no way girl players are worth near that per season...and I have a daughter. That's close to what the top portal players were getting in men's college b-ball last season...and neither of those guys were worth the $2MM they got. Both play on teams that won't make the NCAA tourney this year and Coleman Hawkins is the 4th leading scorer on a very average K-State team. Osobor is leading Wash in scoring and rebounding and has had a nice year, but his team is 13-17! Was he really worth that kind of $ for a team that won't even make the NIT?
People give to softball and not baseball. Sure men have more NIL overall but if someone wants Chavez. They pay directly.
Doubt that a lot
No one wants to come here because we can’t pay them. That’s the bottom line.
