Tulsa might be really good.

[steverocks35]

1. Was it neutral? I mean it was played in Wichita....

2. Memphis isn’t what everyone thought without wiseman. Great osu team beat Houston. Cincy has lost to colegate, Tulane, bowling green. Tulsa beat by ut Arlington and Arkansas state.

So yeah saying TULSA is better is laughable.

Where was all this after the KSU game? Lol

 

[CoachTalk]

OU already lost to Wichita State on a neutral court... Beating Memphis, Houston, Cincinnati, and Tulsa is not some laughable suggestion.

Most of the teams are ranked, and the Big 12 is a total dumpster fire outside of Baylor, WVU, and KU.

Would OU even be favored on the road against Memphis, Houston, Wichita, etc? No way.

I mean 2 are ranked? Houston and WSU. Both lost yesterday and were 21 and 24 in AP

That is most? Geez. Do a little research before vomiting from the mouth.

And Houston and WSU won’t be ranked after this week. So no team will be ranked after this week.

 

[CoachTalk]

OU already lost to Wichita State on a neutral court... Beating Memphis, Houston, Cincinnati, and Tulsa is not some laughable suggestion.

Most of the teams are ranked, and the Big 12 is a total dumpster fire outside of Baylor, WVU, and KU.

Would OU even be favored on the road against Memphis, Houston, Wichita, etc? No way.

Several games if I’m not mistaken of our top ranked teams are pickem or slight dogs on the road.

Lines don’t always tell the whole story.

I’m no way shape or form saying we Go undefeated. JUST FYI

 

[TINY]

OU already lost to Wichita State on a neutral court... Beating Memphis, Houston, Cincinnati, and Tulsa is not some laughable suggestion.

Most of the teams are ranked, and the Big 12 is a total dumpster fire outside of Baylor, WVU, and KU.

Would OU even be favored on the road against Memphis, Houston, Wichita, etc? No way.

Neutral court? Trolling, right?

Houston got beat by osu. Let me repeat that, the same osu team who is 0-8 in the big12 comfortably beat Houston, who is top 3 in the american.

 

[sheepdogs1]

With respect to Tulsa, the bottom line is it is good for the city of Tulsa as basketball has a been on a steady decline for years and can we just leave it at that? Answer: a resounding no!

 

[CoachTalk]

Neutral court? Trolling, right?

Houston got beat by osu. Let me repeat that, the same osu team who is 0-8 in the big12 comfortably beat Houston, who is top 3 in the american.

He may of quit the board after reading our posts!

Abd you’re better than this....

 

[Leroy]

TU plays hard every night unlike the other teams in the state. They are fun to watch. Was it fun watching Manek and Doo against K-State?

 

[skyvue]

TU plays hard every night unlike the other teams in the state. They are fun to watch. Was it fun watching Manek and Doo against K-State?

Probably as fun as it was watching Tulsa lose to Arkansas State and Texas-Arlington. And I have to wonder how hard Tulsa played in its 31-point loss to Cincy.

 

[CoachTalk]

Probably as fun as it was watching Tulsa lose to Arkansas State and Texas-Arlington. And I have to wonder how hard Tulsa played in its 31-point loss to Cincy.

+1

 

[stormspencer]

OU would be in the mix to challenge for the American. OU is better than Cincy, Tulsa and SMU. The games with Wichita and Houston could go either way....as we've already witnessed earlier this year against Wichita.

And yes, the American is a good league this year. I would definitely put them behind the Big 12, Big 10, Big East, PAC, and ACC. But they are pretty close to the SEC along with the West Coast Conference.

 

[thebigabd]

Neutral court? Trolling, right?

Was it not a neutral court?

Thanks for some reality-based commentary. It’s so predictable, we win one game against a horrible team and the usual suspects are way out over their skis sending their expectations through the roof and crowning us an amazing team full of NBA talent.

You would think this is hyperbole, but it's not. Beat a team that might not win a game and now everything is ok again, Austin Reaves is apparently headed to the NBA because he dunked on a breakaway and actually made a shot, etc.

To finish my thoughts on Tulsa, they are a good team in the American. That is what they are supposed to. Most teams are limited by the league the play in, with a few exceptions like Gonzaga and some others... Otherwise, top to bottom more talent wants to play in P5 leagues.

Tulsa is doing a good job in their league, and on a given night anyone can lose in college basketball. Stephen F. Austin beat Duke, etc.

William and Mary just lost by 23 to Hofstra
Oregon State is 13-9 and falling apart
UCF is 11-10 and probably the worst team in the American.. That means OU lost to Wichita State and beat the worst team in the American by 1 and got kinda lucky to do it... Yet you guys laugh about the American.
Minnesota is 11-10 and is terrible
Missouri is 10-11 and horrible

The only good team OU has beaten this year is Mississippi State 1... That's it.

Beating Wichita State is a good win... beating Houston is a good win... beating Memphis by 40 is a good win. It's not a "Tulsa is better haha OU" thing... it just it what it is.

OU has not beaten anyone that a pundit would be call "good" this year.

Name one team OU has beaten that will go to the NCAA Tournament for certain? I don't know anyone other than Mississippi State.

Am I wrong on that?

 

[CoachTalk]

Was it not a neutral court?



You would think this is hyperbole, but it's not. Beat a team that might not win a game and now everything is ok again, Austin Reaves is apparently headed to the NBA because he dunked on a breakaway and actually made a shot, etc.

To finish my thoughts on Tulsa, they are a good team in the American. That is what they are supposed to. Most teams are limited by the league the play in, with a few exceptions like Gonzaga and some others... Otherwise, top to bottom more talent wants to play in P5 leagues.

Tulsa is doing a good job in their league, and on a given night anyone can lose in college basketball. Stephen F. Austin beat Duke, etc.

William and Mary just lost by 23 to Hofstra
Oregon State is 13-9 and falling apart
UCF is 11-10 and probably the worst team in the American.. That means OU lost to Wichita State and beat the worst team in the American by 1 and got kinda lucky to do it... Yet you guys laugh about the American.
Minnesota is 11-10 and is terrible
Missouri is 10-11 and horrible

The only good team OU has beaten this year is Mississippi State at home by 1... That's it.

Beating Wichita State is a good win... beating Houston is a good win... beating Memphis by 40 is a good win. It's not a "Tulsa is better haha OU" thing... it just it what it is.

OU has not beaten anyone that a pundit would be call "good" this year.

Name one team OU has beaten that will go to the NCAA Tournament for certain? I don't know anyone other than Mississippi State.

Am I wrong on that?

Wait?

OU gets to claim OKC as home game but WSU doesn’t get Wichita as home game?

You’re better than this..... moving goal posts

 

[thebigabd]

Wait?

OU gets to claim OKC as home game but WSU doesn’t get Wichita as home game?

You’re better than this..... moving goal posts

Ok, I fixed the most minor part of that post... I know you chose it because you can't refute the primary claim that OU has defeated 1 NCAA Tournament worthy team this season by 1 point. That's it. There is nothing else to say.

 

[stormspencer]

Was it not a neutral court?



You would think this is hyperbole, but it's not. Beat a team that might not win a game and now everything is ok again, Austin Reaves is apparently headed to the NBA because he dunked on a breakaway and actually made a shot, etc.

To finish my thoughts on Tulsa, they are a good team in the American. That is what they are supposed to. Most teams are limited by the league the play in, with a few exceptions like Gonzaga and some others... Otherwise, top to bottom more talent wants to play in P5 leagues.

Tulsa is doing a good job in their league, and on a given night anyone can lose in college basketball. Stephen F. Austin beat Duke, etc.

William and Mary just lost by 23 to Hofstra
Oregon State is 13-9 and falling apart
UCF is 11-10 and probably the worst team in the American.. That means OU lost to Wichita State and beat the worst team in the American by 1 and got kinda lucky to do it... Yet you guys laugh about the American.
Minnesota is 11-10 and is terrible
Missouri is 10-11 and horrible

The only good team OU has beaten this year is Mississippi State at home by 1... That's it.

Beating Wichita State is a good win... beating Houston is a good win... beating Memphis by 40 is a good win. It's not a "Tulsa is better haha OU" thing... it just it what it is.

OU has not beaten anyone that a pundit would be call "good" this year.

Name one team OU has beaten that will go to the NCAA Tournament for certain? I don't know anyone other than Mississippi State.

Am I wrong on that?

I will agree with some of what you're saying. I am not a big fan of one game sample sizes, but OU did struggle to beat some mediocre (or less) teams that they should have handled better....no question

Still, the non-conference schedule was really good because we only played two horrid teams (UTRGV and UMES). We didn't play any great teams, but three of the four best teams we played....we lost. However, those three losses were all away from home....and who knows the outcome if they were played at/near home. And BTW, all four of those teams are tournament teams. Minnesota is still a Q-1 win even though they are struggling.

Outside of Miss State, OU hasn't beaten a tournament type team although the win at Texas is a "tournament" type of win. And....gasp, I think Texas might sneak into the tournament despite horrible coaching. They look like they are getting their act together somewhat.

The silver lining is that OU has (7) more Q-1 opportunities to go along with (2) more Q-2 opportunities. I agree with you....they need some big scalps to for not only "tournament-worthiness", but more for confidence.

 

[Max Power]

I will agree with some of what you're saying. I am not a big fan of one game sample sizes, but OU did struggle to beat some mediocre (or less) teams that they should have handled better....no question

Still, the non-conference schedule was really good because we only played two horrid teams (UTRGV and UMES). We didn't play any great teams, but three of the four best teams we played....we lost. However, those three losses were all away from home....and who knows the outcome if they were played at/near home. And BTW, all four of those teams are tournament teams. Minnesota is still a Q-1 win even though they are struggling.

Outside of Miss State, OU hasn't beaten a tournament type team although the win at Texas is a "tournament" type of win. And....gasp, I think Texas might sneak into the tournament despite horrible coaching. They look like they are getting their act together somewhat.

The silver lining is that OU has (7) more Q-1 opportunities to go along with (2) more Q-2 opportunities. I agree with you....they need some big scalps to for not only "tournament-worthiness", but more for confidence.

Not just confidence, but for seeding, get a couple of upsets and we could be in whites instead of reds on Thursday or Friday. T

 

[Sooner04]

I've casually rooted for TU (and ORU, too) for a long time. Tubby Smith at TU, long time. They beat O-State in the Myriad in the '94 Tourney and they've had goodwill from me ever since. They should've gone to the Final Four in 2000. They were better than North Carolina, and they gave the game away. That was a really good year for basketball in the state of Oklahoma. Aside from the typical round of 32 Kelvin faceplant.

That said, Haith is scum. He appears to have a good team this year, but he gives me the willies. If he leaves for another job you can set your watch to the Golden Hurricane being in administrative trouble in the near future.

 

[thebigabd]

Still, the non-conference schedule was really good because we only played two horrid teams (UTRGV and UMES). We didn't play any great teams, but three of the four best teams we played....we lost. However, those three losses were all away from home....and who knows the outcome if they were played at/near home. And BTW, all four of those teams are tournament teams. Minnesota is still a Q-1 win even though they are struggling.

The non-conference was really good before many of the teams were exposed... We had hoped Minnesota, Oregon State, Mizzou, etc were at least decent, but they aren't. 2 out of those 3 won't even make the NIT, and we will see what Oregon State does.

Outside of Miss State, OU hasn't beaten a tournament type team although the win at Texas is a "tournament" type of win. And....gasp, I think Texas might sneak into the tournament despite horrible coaching. They look like they are getting their act together somewhat.

Ok, so the point is agreed... OU has only beaten 1 NCAA Tournament team, by 1 point, and perhaps if Texas rebounds it will be 2.

But, that is just to this point in the season. OU has lots of other opportunities for good wins, and I would think OU will get some of those wins.

Tulsa only has 3 more chances at good wins, and lots of chances for bad losses. They have Houston on the road, Wichita on the road, and SMU at home.

 

[Maverick008]

Ok, so the point is agreed... OU has only beaten 1 NCAA Tournament team, by 1 point, and perhaps if Texas rebounds it will be 2.

Per Lunardi, the following teams on OU’s (currently an 11 seed) schedule (wins by OU are currently NCAA tourney teams:

#12- North Texas
#15- William & Mary
#12- Minnesota

This was updated 31Jan20 so it could/will obviously change after this weekend.

Just for comparison, Cincinnati and Tulsa, not listed.

Wichita St.- 7
Houston- 7
Memphis- 11

So while the big names are missing from OU’s win column, there are wins against “NCAA” tournament teams on the resume. As others have pointed out, the win against Miss. St. seems to also be getting stronger.

 

[skyvue]

Strength of schedule matters. OU’s SOS in Kenpom is 34; Tulsa’s is 299.

It matters who you lose to. Five of OU’s seven losses were to top 50 teams, only one of them at home.

Baylor - 2
KU - 4
Creighton - 14
Stanford - 22
Wichita State - 38
ISU - 75
KSU - 77

Four of Tulsa’s losses have come to teams outside the top 50, three of them to teams WELL outside the top 50:

Arkansas - 34
Cincy - 46
KSU - 77
Colorado State - 101
Tex-Arlington - 122
Ark. State - 202

OU’s worst loss ranks as Tulsa’s third best.

ABD cites a random loss that William & Mary, currently 159 in the NET rankings, suffered. OU, of course, defeated William & Mary, while Tulsa LOST to Arkansas State, which is currently ranked 43 spots below W&M.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Tulsa has a decent chance to sweep the next 4 games, as 3 of 4 are at home, with the road trip to CFU. Sweep those and their conference record stands at 11-1. If that occurs then people could site whatever ratings system etc, but they would not have to worry like many other teams as it deals with the NCAA tourney. Of course anything could happen, but the future is looking bright for them, but if some of you want to be that "dark cloud," which is what some of you despise than so be it and become what you aptly despise.