Updated Brackets 2/23

Find a way to beat KU and ISU... Watch the Sooner magic Happen!
 
OU's history as a #4 seed is abysmal. Time to get that monkey off our back?
 
DenverSooner said:
10 points is keeping this team from being a 2 seed.
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Hell I even say bating for a 1! Especially if we beat KU and ISU. With a 26-4 record and in the if 12. I think you very easily could look at them at being a 1. Geez I'm a "what could have been" guy! Lol
 
It's nothing to get worked up about, but I noticed that Lunardi's bracket had a red "down" arrow for OU. That made me curious. Basically, on February 19, Lunardi had OU as a #3 and UNC a #4. The only thing that happened between then and today (Feb. 23) was OU won @ Texas Tech and UNC blow out a terrible Georgia Tech team at home. That's it. Nevertheless, Lunardi appears to have switched the two teams. Again, it's not that big of a deal, but I think it illustrates how much "ology" goes into these projections 2-3 weeks out. Some of it's pretty arbitrary.

As others have said, take care of business vs. TCU and beat either ISU or KU and I think a #3 is realistic. Win out in the regular season, and it's all but assured. I don't think the conference tournament will have as much impact on seeding as some think.
 
Going to be very interesting to see how it all plays out.

We all know we have the good RPI/SOS. We're going to finish reasonably well, but still might have losses to ISU, KU, and either team again in the Big 12 Tourney in our final 4-5 games. We have some solid wins, and bad but not terrible losses.

One other big negative is our 7-7 record away from home. It's also one of the reasons I don't see OU making a run in the Dance. We just don't play as well away from home.
 
WTSooner said:
Going to be very interesting to see how it all plays out.

We all know we have the good RPI/SOS. We're going to finish reasonably well, but still might have losses to ISU, KU, and either team again in the Big 12 Tourney in our final 4-5 games. We have some solid wins, and bad but not terrible losses.

One other big negative is our 7-7 record away from home. It's also one of the reasons I don't see OU making a run in the Dance. We just don't play as well away from home.
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Playing on a neutral floor is different than playing on the road. I think the Big 12 tournament will tell us a lot. I will be disappointed if we can't win our first game in the Big 12 tourney. If we do, I think that will be a good indicator of things to come.
 
WTSooner said:
Going to be very interesting to see how it all plays out.

We all know we have the good RPI/SOS. We're going to finish reasonably well, but still might have losses to ISU, KU, and either team again in the Big 12 Tourney in our final 4-5 games. We have some solid wins, and bad but not terrible losses.

One other big negative is our 7-7 record away from home. It's also one of the reasons I don't see OU making a run in the Dance. We just don't play as well away from home.
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That 7-7 record is pretty good.

Wins: UCLA, Butler, Tulsa, Texas, OSU Tech, and TCU

Losses:Wisconsin, WVU, KU, Baylor K-State, Washington, Creighton

Creighton is the only bad loss among them. K-State and Washington aren't bad teams(though we should have won each game). They have each dealt with suspensions, transfers, etc. but were full strength when we played them.

In addition that are 4 very solid road wins.

We need to compare what we do against what other teams have done. Only three schools with 10 wins against RPI, top 50. Kentucky, Duke, and Oklahoma.
 
soonertravis said:
That 7-7 record is pretty good.

Wins: UCLA, Butler, Tulsa, Texas, OSU Tech, and TCU

Losses:Wisconsin, WVU, KU, Baylor K-State, Washington, Creighton

Creighton is the only bad loss among them. K-State and Washington aren't bad teams(though we should have won each game). They have each dealt with suspensions, transfers, etc. but were full strength when we played them.

In addition that are 4 very solid road wins.

We need to compare what we do against what other teams have done. Only three schools with 10 wins against RPI, top 50. Kentucky, Duke, and Oklahoma.[/QUOTE
Beat me to it. Solid resume, as fans we let the tough losses bother us which is understandable but we've had some great wins. For years I just wanted to be on the bubble so I'm not going to point out reasons for us to not be on the 3 line and instead point to the top 50 wins!
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Zimwillett said:
It's nothing to get worked up about, but I noticed that Lunardi's bracket had a red "down" arrow for OU. That made me curious. Basically, on February 19, Lunardi had OU as a #3 and UNC a #4. The only thing that happened between then and today (Feb. 23) was OU won @ Texas Tech and UNC blow out a terrible Georgia Tech team at home. That's it. Nevertheless, Lunardi appears to have switched the two teams. Again, it's not that big of a deal, but I think it illustrates how much "ology" goes into these projections 2-3 weeks out. Some of it's pretty arbitrary.

As others have said, take care of business vs. TCU and beat either ISU or KU and I think a #3 is realistic. Win out in the regular season, and it's all but assured. I don't think the conference tournament will have as much impact on seeding as some think.
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I noticed the same thing. While I have not studied today's bracket too closely, I wonder if he made the switch to avoid an ACC vs ACC or Big 12 vs. Big 12 matchup too soon. Looking at the other 3 regions, KU is a 2, WV is a 6, and ISU is a 3....so based upon that line of reasoning, we wouldn't be a "3" in any of those regions. He could've placed us as a 3 in our current region, but obviously didn't feel like we should be seeded higher than Notre Dame. I don't know this to be the case, but just a guess.
 
WTSooner said:
Going to be very interesting to see how it all plays out.

We all know we have the good RPI/SOS. We're going to finish reasonably well, but still might have losses to ISU, KU, and either team again in the Big 12 Tourney in our final 4-5 games. We have some solid wins, and bad but not terrible losses.

One other big negative is our 7-7 record away from home. It's also one of the reasons I don't see OU making a run in the Dance. We just don't play as well away from home.
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Please name 12 teams that have been better away from home than OU.
 
MI Sooner said:
Please name 12 teams that have been better away from home than OU.
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You can start with just about any team that has less total losses, than OU has road losses. Right? Only 1-2 of those don't have a schedule that would allow such a comparison to be reasonably fair.

And I never said there were 12 better. Why would you ask that? Weird question. This is just ONE PIECE of the seeding puzzle. But it's one the committee talks about every year, since NCAA Tourney games aren't played at home.
 
WTSooner said:
You can start with just about any team that has less total losses, than OU has road losses. Right? Only 1-2 of those don't have a schedule that would allow such a comparison to be reasonably fair.

And I never said there were 12 better. Why would you ask that? Weird question. This is just ONE PIECE of the seeding puzzle. But it's one the committee talks about every year, since NCAA Tourney games aren't played at home.
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You said that our RPI, which is around 16, was a positive, and our road performance was a negative. Seems like there should be more than 16 teams with a better road performance this year then, right? I figured I'd take it easy on you and ask for 12. And no, you can't just assume teams with fewer total losses than we have road losses have been better on the road, since we've played a lot of road/neutral games and our median opponent is a tournament team. Who goes over .500 away from home against that type of schedule? I'm guessing there aren't many teams, but maybe there are.
 
Just as examples, the first two teams I looked at were Maryland, who I'd argue has been worse away from home than OU, and Wisconsin, who has been better, but has played zero top 50 teams at their place (they are 2-0 on neutral courts, including their win over OU). OU has played six top 50 teams at their places (and three on neutral courts). They're 5-4 in those games, which is worse than Wisconsin's 2-0. I doubt Wisconsin does better than 5-4 in those 9 games (but they probably avoid our bad losses).
 
MI Sooner said:
You said that our RPI, which is around 16, was a positive, and our road performance was a negative. Seems like there should be more than 16 teams with a better road performance this year then, right? I figured I'd take it easy on you and ask for 12. And no, you can't just assume teams with fewer total losses than we have road losses have been better on the road, since we've played a lot of road/neutral games and our median opponent is a tournament team. Who goes over .500 away from home against that type of schedule? I'm guessing there aren't many teams, but maybe there are.
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Out of our six OOC wins, as few as two of those might be against teams that go Dancing. Probably not more than three.

And our road/neutral losses? Nothing wrong with losing to Wisky or KU, but that Creighton loss, the Washington loss, and the KSU loss were terrible. Creighton lost 9 straight conference games at one point.
 
WTSooner said:
Out of our six OOC wins, as few as two of those might be against teams that go Dancing. Probably not more than three.

And our road/neutral losses? Nothing wrong with losing to Wisky or KU, but that Creighton loss, the Washington loss, and the KSU loss were terrible. Creighton lost 9 straight conference games at one point.
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I'm not arguing our non-conference record is great, I'm saying I think our road/neutral performance has been very good, and isn't a mark against a team that is fighting for a three-seed.
 
If OU wins the next 4 games, including the 1st round of the Big-12 Tournament, then they would finish 23-9. This is one scenario that could get OU a 3 seed. The resume, RPI, SOS and poll rankings would really rise with:

> A road win at Iowa State, and
> A home win over Kansas, and
> A super strong finish, and
> A conference co-championship.

No one else has won on the road at Ames.
 
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