Why so many injuries
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35TangoTango
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Well first, we don't have WAY more injuries than anyone. We had one chronic injury (Cloman's back), so we've had 3 go down this year. Maryland has also had 3 go down this year. Someone from Iowa State pointed out that two former stars from Maddie Manning's School, Ankeny, also had ACL injuries while at ISU. These knee injuries are almost always non-contact injuries, as was Whitney's last night. At the same time, one has to wonder about the conditioning, as we got a new Strength and Conditioning Coach last year, and we've had 5 knee injuries since. This much is obvious - they happen everywhere, and if anyone had a real answer on what to do to prevent them they would be gone.
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fire schmitty
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Sorry, but you are wrong. Not every team is hit every year, but there are lots of teams that have dealt with a rash of season ending injuries in the past and there will be in the future. There is no coach in charge of injuries that you can fire.
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Maryland has had 3 this year.
I have been think the same thing, for years the USC women of troy them was hit hard from the acl something like 5 players in 6 straight seasons, but after they replaced the coaching staff and got a new Strenght and Conditioning coach it changed, I think it could be something the coach is/isn't doing right...
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While I do not blame Sherri 100% for the situation the team is in, as the head coach, some of the blame is square on her shoulders. The coach is the one who is responsible for the number of players on the roster and; therefore, the buck stops with Sherri. It wasn't like she hasn't been down this road before as she had to take someone from the rowing team a few short years ago so she knew what the risks were by not keeping the roster to an adequate level. If we are unfortunate enough to lose one more starter, this year will be a disaster.
The rest of the blame seems to me just bad luck. I don't have a clue what causes ACL injuries and I don't know if there is anything that can/should be done to help prevent them that isn't being done. It seems that perhaps the strength and conditioning coach might play a role but I don't think we have enough data to make that judgment.
The rest of the blame seems to me just bad luck. I don't have a clue what causes ACL injuries and I don't know if there is anything that can/should be done to help prevent them that isn't being done. It seems that perhaps the strength and conditioning coach might play a role but I don't think we have enough data to make that judgment.
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I'm really pissed that your number one priority in this situation is assessing blame.
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This conversation has been going on all morning. Everyone has an opinion. Don't let mine get to you... just state your own opinion.
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Yours gets to some of us because you are the "super moderator" which implies a certain "moderation" in action, expression and a certain "super" as in ranking above others. It would help if you could change your ranking (i.e. "super moderator") to something else when you opinionate.
i don't agree... I'm happy that Norm keeps it 100% real on this board, more of you should be like him.
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I would be happy to change what I am on the board when I post an opinion if I had that option but I don't.
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Thanks Mac! I like Sherri a lot although some seem to forget all the positive things I have said about her. I like Bob Stoops a lot as well. But, that doesn't mean I have to like or agree with everything they do. I think Sherri is an excellent coach. She does many things extremely well. I just think her ability to recruit has not been up to par the last few years. I have the same complaint about Stoops as well. Both should do better based upon the records in their respective sports at OU.
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Norm is very even handed in his posts. He keeps a lot of interest in ou program by asking questions, encouraging discussion, etc. He gets a lot of criticism from a few mega posters who do not like anything negative said about Coach Coale, whether it is warranted or not. Keep up the good work, Norm.
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I do not think you can blame Sherri for injuries-- so if we only had one (Cloman) we would all be complaining about someone not getting enough minutes because we would have 11 players who could/should all be playing !! I do not think the answer is having two more on scholarship who sit at the end of the bench. 11 players all of whom could play to me is a wealth of talent. Having 4 go out in the same year is not something a coach usually plans for. Do we need to up our recruiting? Always! But really good players do not like to sit at the end of the bench.
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Norm is a tremendous moderator and if anyone thinks he's doing a bad job or shouldn't state his opinion or should tone it down because he is a moderator then they are just plain crazy. Norm is the finest moderator I have seen on any board of any type ever.
Now, back to the topic.
As a father of girl athletes who played through college (soccer), let me provide my thoughts.
I am not 100 percent sure on this, but I believe most orthopedic doctors/surgeons will tell you that females and males are built just a little different in their knees because of the female's wider hips (designed for child birth).
As a result of the wider hips, there are slight, very slight, differences in how we are constructed and as a general result the ACLs, ICLS, and how they are attached to the knee, are inherently weaker, even if you try to build them up.
More specifically, I've had my daughters' orthopedic surgeon tell me, the ligaments, cartledge and bone etc. that make up the knee are not built for as much running, jumping, twisting and turning as girls do in sports. That is why girls seem to have more knee issue in general than boys.
So that is, I think, why there are more knee injuries among women.
Now, back to the topic.
As a father of girl athletes who played through college (soccer), let me provide my thoughts.
I am not 100 percent sure on this, but I believe most orthopedic doctors/surgeons will tell you that females and males are built just a little different in their knees because of the female's wider hips (designed for child birth).
As a result of the wider hips, there are slight, very slight, differences in how we are constructed and as a general result the ACLs, ICLS, and how they are attached to the knee, are inherently weaker, even if you try to build them up.
More specifically, I've had my daughters' orthopedic surgeon tell me, the ligaments, cartledge and bone etc. that make up the knee are not built for as much running, jumping, twisting and turning as girls do in sports. That is why girls seem to have more knee issue in general than boys.
So that is, I think, why there are more knee injuries among women.
We have discussed this on the board several times, and nice job of refreshing us. As said, I don't know if there is any thing that can be done to help build up the knees and quad areas to strengthen and help prevent these injuries, but it sure isn't just limited to the Sooners. I know the pre-season conditioning program is pretty intense for our girls, so I kind of think every thing is possibly used to get the girls ready for the grind of the season. Maybe instead of having a male conditioning coach, a female might be better knowing the differences in the make up of the men and women's hip and knee areas affected. Just an idea.
