#1 defense vs. #1 offense...... the defense won

[thebigabd]

I always like to see the #1 offense in the league go up against the #1 defense. I'd be interested to see the W/L record on that matchup historically.

Bruce Weber is doing a pretty good job with suspect talent on the roster. 13-4, 3-1, have WVU at home so a good chance at 14-4 and a 4-1 start in the Big 12. Wins over top 10 OSU, top 25 OU, top 25 Gonzaga, Ole Miss, etc. They have the #1 rated defense in the league and start two true freshman.

 

[CrimsonandCream14]

Didn't get to watch the game. Seemed to see quite a few posts mentioning how we had the looks and just couldn't/didn't convert.

Was their defense that effective, or did we just miss some opportunities?

 

[KBaden145]

Didn't get to watch the game. Seemed to see quite a few posts mentioning how we had the looks and just couldn't/didn't convert.



Was their defense that effective, or did we just miss some opportunities?

It was more us than them, IMO.


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[Swans]

KSU used the same formula against us with the same outcome as in those other games. Of course it was all about missed opportunities with those other teams also.

 

[opsooner]

I thought we got a lot of good looks on offense but also forced a lot of shots when we did not need to force them. K-St also made a lot of open looks from 3 which is not overly surprising - they are at home and we are going to give some open looks.

I am not too concerned about the game. My main issue is just not forcing shots because we have plenty of guys who can shoot it and the less we force it the better chance Spangler has a chance for offensive rebounds.

 

[AdaSooner]

While I'm one who believes a good defense trumps a good offense in most cases, last night's loss was more about what we didn't do than what KSU did.

The shots were there. OU simply couldn't hit the broad side of a barn when it counted the most. An 0 of 9 performance from three in the second half pretty much tells the whole story. It should also be noted that KSU, which is not known for their three point shooting, burned the nets up by going 11 of 21 for the game.

Bottom line, though, you're not going to win many games when three of your starters score a combined total of 14 points. That's especially true when your back up players are limited in what they can do.

But, with all of the odds stacked against us on the road, we still had a legitimate chance to win at the end. That's the mark of a good team. The players who did show up, just weren't able to come away with the win.

 

[jerry]

Southwell did a really good job on Clark.

 

[AdaSooner]

Southwell did a really good job on Clark.

He let him know it, too. That could have gotten into Cam's head a little. For whatever reason, he was definitely not himself.

 

[snydrosooner]

Didn't get to watch the game. Seemed to see quite a few posts mentioning how we had the looks and just couldn't/didn't convert.

Was their defense that effective, or did we just miss some opportunities?

I think that the notion that KState has a good defence got to us at times. I think on some of our open shots we looked rushed. I assume the players were thinking that a defender is coming and to get the shot off, but even our inside shots seemed we were rushed or looking for contact that was not there (or called in a few instaces).

 

[thebigabd]

I would say that getting in the opponents head, making them hurry shots (even when open), etc is all part of having a good defense. Play someone tough enough on defense for a majority of the game and it takes away all the rhythm and confidence of the offensive player, increasing their likelihood of missing open shots.

 

[snydrosooner]

I would say that getting in the opponents head, making them hurry shots (even when open), etc is all part of having a good defense. Play someone tough enough on defense for a majority of the game and it takes away all the rhythm and confidence of the offensive player, increasing their likelihood of missing open shots.

I would agree. My point was at least early in the game we were getting the shots we wanted, they were just not falling. So Kstate did do a good job, but they were not stopping us from getting open looks.

 

[earlpearl]

I would say that getting in the opponents head, making them hurry shots (even when open), etc is all part of having a good defense. Play someone tough enough on defense for a majority of the game and it takes away all the rhythm and confidence of the offensive player, increasing their likelihood of missing open shots.

Exactly, I have heard Eddie Sutton say this exact thing many times. If you pressure someone the whole game and force them into a few bad shots their confidence decreases. An open shot comes along and even if they are wide open they feel as though they still must hurry the shot.

 

[Soonerthunder]

Personally, I love Kruger. However, I think he lost this game by taking Woodard out. I know he wasn't playing well, but I think we'd have scored more than 1 pt (FT; don't count the meaningless basket w/under 10 sec to go) in the last 6 minutes. I think that was the difference myself.

 

[DenverSooner]

You just have to trust Kruger. He has been doing this a long time and he did it for a reason and I guaranty that reason was not to lose at KSU.