2017 commit Ty Lazenby

JUCO is so bad that the stats are meaningless. High end intramural players at a big school like OU would put up good stats in JUCO. Basically no one in the basketball world fails to qualify, so the only reason you are in JUCO is you weren't good enough to get scholarships.

Never seen Lazenby play, but his shooting percentages don't convince me is going to be some elite 3 point shooter. I'm expecting the usual 6-8 minutes of replacement level production we have gotten out of JUCOs for the past decade. If he can provide anything more than it's pure gravy.
 
hoopsaustin said:
you did that already for me. thanks

looks like 34 games. and earlier in his career he was getting into the actual games not just mop up minutes, although ultimately thats how his minutes ended up.

there was one game in particular i remember he was nearly the 6th man. bc i was like thinking what in the world are we doing? ha
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lol. 4 FG in 3 years. NO meaningful minutes were player. EVER.
 
hoopsaustin said:
of course he wasnt out there launching shots up.... but he absolutely had some non-mop up minutes. ABSOLUTELY. :ez-laugh:
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When? Did you look at the link??

Jr year- 17 TOTAL minutes (2.1 per game)
Soph year- averaged 3.8 mins per game
Fr year- 2.6 minutes per game

I'm confused what else you see here?
 
Maverick008 said:
When? Did you look at the link??

Jr year- 17 TOTAL minutes (2.1 per game)
Soph year- averaged 3.8 mins per game
Fr year- 2.6 minutes per game

I'm confused what else you see here?
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He doesnt like facts
 
Mankin played 105 minutes in 3 years. So he played "a little" if you mean "hardly ever" and "only in mopup time except for about 3 games his sophomore season."

I think it's pretty clear that, if Lazenby can knock down shots, he'll play and if he can't, he won't. He will be our 5th or 6th guard so we're not going to be counting on him for meaningful minutes unless there are injuries, major foul trouble, or he's absolutely on fire. That said, I think it's pretty clear he's going to be given more of a chance to make an impact than Austin Mankin ever was. Will he be able to have an impact? Time will tell.

But Mankin was absolutely not a D1 player, at least not at a power conference. Lazenby had offers from Utah and Penn St. in addition to OU so it's not just Kruger who thought he could play meaningful minutes at this level.
 
chuckb said:
Mankin played 105 minutes in 3 years. So he played "a little" if you mean "hardly ever" and "only in mopup time except for about 3 games his sophomore season."

I think it's pretty clear that, if Lazenby can knock down shots, he'll play and if he can't, he won't. He will be our 5th or 6th guard so we're not going to be counting on him for meaningful minutes unless there are injuries, major foul trouble, or he's absolutely on fire. That said, I think it's pretty clear he's going to be given more of a chance to make an impact than Austin Mankin ever was. Will he be able to have an impact? Time will tell.

But Mankin was absolutely not a D1 player, at least not at a power conference. Lazenby had offers from Utah and Penn St. in addition to OU so it's not just Kruger who thought he could play meaningful minutes at this level.
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spot on summation. It was a short stretch of games for mankin. it was really weird.

we will see. I am just not a fan of this commit and i think we def should have saved the scholly
 
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hoopsaustin said:
also coachtalk, heres a fact for you while youre looking over OU rosters

when i said i would take the over on Mcneace and 10 minutes a game and that Mcneace had a higher ceiling than lattin, and you said that was face palm worthy... please take a look at Mcneace's minutes :ez-roll:

http://www.soonersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209525864&DB_OEM_ID=31000
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thats ok. Id still take lattin right now. We need both of them to be good next year.


Sorry to hijack my own thread. Hope Lazenby can give us some minutes next year.
 
CoachTalk said:
thats ok. Id still take lattin right now. We need both of them to be good next year.


Sorry to hijack my own thread. Hope Lazenby can give us some minutes next year.
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I hope he can shoot close to 40% from deep. Not sure if he's athletic enough to slash in the paint but some kids overlooked at 18 grow into athletically grown men by 21. I hope that's the case because he would be pretty good.
 
Maverick008 said:
When? Did you look at the link??

Jr year- 17 TOTAL minutes (2.1 per game)
Soph year- averaged 3.8 mins per game
Fr year- 2.6 minutes per game

I'm confused what else you see here?
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He's right that he got some meaningful minutes. He was subbed into a non-conference game in the first half, and the game was within a few points. I was confused as to whether or not he was teaching the starters a lesson, or if we were going to see more of Mankin. He definitely seemed to be giving Mankin a shot during the non-conference of his second year, but appears to have decided he wasn't capable of contributing to that team (which was much better than our team this past year).

Obviously Mankin didn't set the world on fire, but he got 17 appearances his second year, which was more than Cole did (and tied for his career high). I doubt you can find many recent walk-ons at OU recently that had that 17 or more appearances. We often have walk-ons for reasons beyond basketball, but Mankin was only there because he could play.
 
This wreaks of a knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing reaction. Not a fan of this in the least. Feels like we went the JAG route because somebody was spooked about depth.

Would love nothing more than to be proven wrong, but I'd rather have Buford back 1,000 times over.
 
Eielson said:
He's right that he got some meaningful minutes. He was subbed into a non-conference game in the first half, and the game was within a few points. I was confused as to whether or not he was teaching the starters a lesson, or if we were going to see more of Mankin. He definitely seemed to be giving Mankin a shot during the non-conference of his second year, but appears to have decided he wasn't capable of contributing to that team (which was much better than our team this past year).

Obviously Mankin didn't set the world on fire, but he got 17 appearances his second year, which was more than Cole did (and tied for his career high). I doubt you can find many recent walk-ons at OU recently that had that 17 or more appearances. We often have walk-ons for reasons beyond basketball, but Mankin was only there because he could play.
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I have noticed over the past few years that the first half definitely seems to be more open to playing time even to players you would never think would see the floor during Lon's tenure. Whether that be for "learning" purposes or just to play additional guys. However, attached is the breakdown for Mankin that year of 17 appearances and outside of a 19 point win against Missouri he only played "meaningful minutes" in other blowouts. The rest of his games were mop up no matter the number of mins played.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/austin-mankin-player-game-log?season=2014
 
Sooner04 said:
This wreaks of a knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing reaction. Not a fan of this in the least. Feels like we went the JAG route because somebody was spooked about depth.

Would love nothing more than to be proven wrong, but I'd rather have Buford back 1,000 times over.
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Agreed. I've never been more excited (Trae) and discontented (Polla/Lazenby/Manek) about a recruiting class. Like 04 says, hope I'm wrong.
 
It seems like it's going to be James vs Lazenby for backup minutes at the 2 behind McGusty. If James can get his outside shot back then he probably plays. If not then Lazenby seems to have a decent perimeter game.

I'm hoping Odomes, McIntosh, and Doolittle share the 3/4 positions.... maybe along with Freeman if he starts to see the light.
 
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