Another "old"mans observation

[oketex]

Guys, I have never been big on getting rid of coaches or complaining to much about their style but after watching last night's game I am wondering if maybe there should be a change at OU.

The first half of the game OU played good but not great, their was an attitude among the players that they could play with A&M. Leading by one point was good going into the half because they were on the road. At the half A&M makes a few changes and comes out kicking our butts. My question is, what did Capel do in the dressing room at the half. We were 6 mins into the second half before we scored a point, something changed from 1st to 2nd half with our attitude and style of play, I know that A&M made changes so why can't OU.

Yes, I know this a very young team that needs to learn how to win both at home and on the road but what happen to the same young team seven games ago that had won four games in a row?

Now I am questioning Capel's coaching ability, just some thoughts from an "old" man.

Have a great day and God bless!

 

[colston15]

A&M decided to play? And we missed our first eight (wide open) shots of the second half. As I type this Tyler Neal is bricking another open three.

But yeah, it was Capel's fault.

 

[StoopsBros]

A&M decided to play? And we missed our first eight (wide open) shots of the second half. As I type this Tyler Neal is bricking another open three.

But yeah, it was Capel's fault.

That's funny. Neal was probably dreaming about shooting last night and still couldn't make a bucket.


Managers manage.

 

[bgrch1350]

Guys, I have never been big on getting rid of coaches or complaining to much about their style but after watching last night's game I am wondering if maybe there should be a change at OU.

The first half of the game OU played good but not great, their was an attitude among the players that they could play with A&M. Leading by one point was good going into the half because they were on the road. At the half A&M makes a few changes and comes out kicking our butts. My question is, what did Capel do in the dressing room at the half. We were 6 mins into the second half before we scored a point, something changed from 1st to 2nd half with our attitude and style of play, I know that A&M made changes so why can't OU. What changed was our inability to make a shot!!!

Yes, I know this a very young team that needs to learn how to win both at home and on the road but what happen to the same young team seven games ago that had won four games in a row?

Now I am questioning Capel's coaching ability, just some thoughts from an "old" man.

Have a great day and God bless!

That same team didn't play all ranked teams. aTm is ranked in the top 25. Take a minute to let that set in. They are a ranked team. As for the adjustments...ranked teams can make adjustments b/c thats why they are ranked b/c they have the ability to make adjustments. If OU actually could have made open shots than OU would have been in this til the very end. Thats why we were leading going into half time...we made shots.

 

[campbest]

Would be great if Clark decided to grab more than two rebounds in 33 minutes of action.

We've got to find a way to get him more looks, as well.

 

[colston15]

We've got to find a way to get him more looks, as well.

Just like rebounding, he has to be more assertive. He was 4-5 from the floor last night, the only problem is, he only shot five times! Neal on the other hand, shot eight times and made zero.

Cam needs to hog the ball sometimes. Especially when he's shooting 80%.

 

[campbest]

Just like rebounding, he has to be more assertive. He was 4-5 from the floor last night, the only problem is, he only shot five times! Neal on the other hand, shot eight times and made zero.

Cam needs to hog the ball sometimes. Especially when he's shooting 80%.

I can live with him not forcing shots as a freshman, even though I would like to see him do it more.

The rebounding, on the other hand, no excuse for that. He's 6'6" with a great leaping ability...that's just being mentally weak. He has to mix it up more.

 

[Hollisp]

Managers manage.

Are you saying Neal should be a manager?

 

[trueou]

I can live with him not forcing shots as a freshman, even though I would like to see him do it more.

The rebounding, on the other hand, no excuse for that. He's 6'6" with a great leaping ability...that's just being mentally weak. He has to mix it up more.

He really should work on his ball handling. He needs to believe that he can make a move to the basket. He just needs more confidence. It just bugs me that when he catches a pass he is almost looking away from or moving away from the basket. He seldom pressures the defense.

Also on fast breaks, he can't get the ball to the pg fast enough. Has Capel told him to do that? Maybe everyone needs to work on dribbling and running at the same time so we can finish a fast break with a layup instead of it being a 50/50 deal.

I am not down on Cam. He has a lot of talent. There is just a lot he can work on this summer.

 

[StoopsBros]

Are you saying Neal should be a manager?

Nope. Colston sarcastically stated "But yeah, it was Capel's fault"...Maybe not 100% Capel's fault but you don't keep playing a guy that can't hit the broad side of a barn. Managers manage and Capel managed to keep Neal in the game way too long.

 

[jerry]

Nope. Colston sarcastically stated "But yeah, it was Capel's fault"...Maybe not 100% Capel's fault but you don't keep playing a guy that can't hit the broad side of a barn. Managers manage and Capel managed to keep Neal in the game way too long.

Capel's coaching is as bad as Neal's shooting was. We need a change. This guy is over his head. Way over.

 

[StoopsBros]

Capel's coaching is as bad as Neal's shooting was. We need a change. This guy is over his head. Way over.

You don't have to convince me, convince these "capelables" and Joe C.

 

[Oliver Hardy]

Said it before and will say it again...

If the NCAA hammers us he is gone immediately (which may ultimately be better for us recruiting and rebuilding wise).

If not, he gets a last year to turn the ship completely around or he is gone.

It is easy to coach and win with great playrs when you can get them (legally).

You find out what type of coach you have when things aren't good and players are mediocre at best. We're finding that out now.

 

[scrybe]

oketex: I'm pretty old myself, but my observations of last night's game are quite different from yours. The Sooners, for the most part, played about as well in the second half as they played in the first. The difference was that they absolutely could not buy a bucket after intermission. Like one of the other posters said, they got lots of great open looks early in the second half they just couldn't hit any of them.

This loss had nothing to do with Capel's in-game coaching, IMO. Perhaps if Jeff could regain a year of eligibility, he could suit up and knock down a few shots for the Sooners. That's about the only way he could help influence the outcome of some of our recent games. It's pretty depressing to watch these kids play their butts off and still get hammered game after game.

 

[Big Old Booger]

oketex: I'm pretty old myself, but my observations of last night's game are quite different from yours. The Sooners, for the most part, played about as well in the second half as they played in the first. The difference was that they absolutely could not buy a bucket after intermission. Like one of the other posters said, they got lots of great open looks early in the second half they just couldn't hit any of them.

This loss had nothing to do with Capel's in-game coaching, IMO. Perhaps if Jeff could regain a year of eligibility, he could suit up and knock down a few shots for the Sooners. That's about the only way he could help influence the outcome of some of our recent games. It's pretty depressing to watch these kids play their butts off and still get hammered game after game.

They also had a 6 minute drought before halftime. Had we been able to score some points during that 6 minute span and the 6 minute span after the halftime, we are in that game at the end.

I will say the shot selection is really bad, and the rebounding is even worse. I just don't know how you can't attribute that to coaching? Most of the time when a sooner player put up a shot, all of our players headed to the other end to play defense. Hardly anybody went for the rebound. I'd like to see how many possessions we had with only 1 shot at the goal.

Does anybody know if a stat exists that would track this? I guess I could get it from soonersports.com.

 

[SoonerDan74012]

Cam needs to hog the ball sometimes. Especially when he's shooting 80%

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I think one of the reasons why he passes up so many shots is due to how last season went. Fans and the media would probably start accusing him of being a selfish ball hog and not being a team player. Just a thought.

 

[Big Old Booger]

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I think one of the reasons why he passes up so many shots is due to how last season went. Fans and the media would probably start accusing him of being a selfish ball hog and not being a team player. Just a thought.

I don't sense that at all. I think he's still adjusting to the college game. In a perfect situation, he wouldn't start anyway. Instead he would play a bench role which would allow him to ease into it a bit.

I think he will get more aggressive in time, but we need it now.

 

[colston15]

I don't sense that at all. I think he's still adjusting to the college game. In a perfect situation, he wouldn't start anyway. Instead he would play a bench role which would allow him to ease into it a bit.

I think he will get more aggressive in time, but we need it now.

I think this is 100% correct.

 

[bgrch1350]

Said it before and will say it again...

If the NCAA hammers us he is gone immediately (which may ultimately be better for us recruiting and rebuilding wise). If we get hammered than it will be a mutiny. If they come down harder on us than they came down on Calhoun(3 games next season), OU better go after the NCAA publicly.

If not, he gets a last year to turn the ship completely around or he is gone. He should be given a year to coach a team that he rebuild. It would easy for another coach to come in and take over next years team and win with what Capel as coming back.

It is easy to coach and win with great playrs when you can get them (legally).

You find out what type of coach you have when things aren't good and players are mediocre at best. We're finding that out now. Really, b/c I guess Roy Williams was a horrible coach when he had 7 mcdAA on his roster but none of them were really that great and he only went .500. I guess Donovan wasn't so great after winning 2 NCs and having to rebuild and only making it to NIT with way better talent then we've had on our roster the past 2 years. I guess Calhoun wasn't that good of a coach after all when he didn't even make the NIT last season...and that team was loaded w/ talent. So what type of coach do they have when they come off a great season and struggle the following season? Are they exempted? Did we find out that they aren't that good of a coach w/ out great players?

I really want to know what you found out about those coach's during their rebuilding seasons?

 

[bgrch1350]

I don't sense that at all. I think he's still adjusting to the college game. In a perfect situation, he wouldn't start anyway. Instead he would play a bench role which would allow him to ease into it a bit.

I think he will get more aggressive in time, but we need it now.

+ 1

That goes for all these young players. I think we expect too much too soon.