Big 12 Tournament--ugh to 5 straight years in KC

I've attended every Big 12 Tournament since 2003 which means I've seen:

Three in Dallas: '03, '04, '06
Two in OKC: '07, '09
One in Kemper: '05
Two in the Sprint Center: '08, '10

Dallas is a big-time city, but it is NOT a college basketball town. Unless you were inside the AAC or inside Reunion Arena you had no clue that the Big 12 Tournament was in progress in the city. They simply did not seem to care enough to make it the "scene" it usually is.

Oklahoma City is a great host. You cannot beat the proximity of the two arenas. That's just really cool. It gets no better than that. The City put its best foot forward and has shown the Big 12 two really good tournament weekends, and it will only get better with improvements to both the OKC Arena and the Myriad as well as Bricktown.

But Kansas City is the old pro. They just know how to do it right. EVERYTHING feels bigger up there because you can tell the town is pumped to have the fans walking its streets. Waiters at restaurants talk to you about the results, the secondary ticket market booms; it's just a fun thing to experience. The KC Star always has great coverage and stories to browse through, the hotels go all out for whichever teams are staying there. Awesome, awesome experience.

If you're ranking the arenas it would go something like this:

1. Dallas (but where would the women play?)
2. KC
3. Oklahoma City

If you're ranking the atmosphere of being in the town for that weekend it goes:

1. KC
2. Oklahoma City
3. Dallas (and this is a DISTANT third)


I don't like that it's in KC this many times in a row, but it's another example of short-sighted vision by the powers who lead this conference. If I had a vote, I'd say you do it in a three-year cycle: KC for two years, OKC for one year. 2012 and 2013 in KC, 2014 in Oklahoma City. 2015 and 2016 in KC, 2017 in Oklahoma City....and so on.
 
I agree, but OKC really didn't do itself any favors 2 years ago when the men lost early and the women lost in the semis. Nobody attended either final game compared to the turnout in KC for mens. That did more to push the conference to move it to KC for 5 straight years than anything else.

Wasn't that the year there were upsets galore in the men's tournament? Something like Missouri & Texas Tech in the finals? Tech never brings any fans and Missouri didn't have very many. If someone like Tech & Baylor ended up in the finals in KC, I don't think there would be very many fans show up for that game either.
 
The men's final in 2009 wasn't too terribly attended. Baylor ended up making it all the way to the last game and there was a pretty healthy contingent of rowdy Baptists who made the trip up 35 to catch the game.

The women's final, though, was pretty sparse.
 
I like how all the fans in Texas (OU fans, A&M, Tech and UT) are just crapped on at the expense of Jayhawk nation. It's okay for me to drive 1000 miles or so but not vice versa?

Yes.
 

Can I borrow some gas money then? I realize that Dallas doesn't support it like KU/KC, but there has to be some middle ground. If it's OKC, I could live with that. But you can't expect the fans below that OKC (ish) line to drive up to KC. For football, yes. Basketball, not too many will. KU fans aren't all this conference is about. They're closer to being a C-USA school than any school in the south.
 
Baylor, Texas Tech and possibly OSU are no less C-USAish than anyone in the north if you take out any political ties they have to UT, A&M or OU.

And IMO the tournament should attempt to accommodate the majority. KC and OKC are more convenient for most Big 12 fans who will be attending. Dallas wouldn't be. Sucks for the four teams in Texas, and sucks for fans who have made the personal decision to move further south, but MU, ISU, ku, and ksu (all programs with fans who actually attend this thing) shouldn't suffer because a few football-first teams in Texas have a few fans that can't make the drive (but would for a football championship).
 
Someone posted a map that showed that the new geographic midpoint of the conference (after Colorado & Nebraska leave) will be just outside of Stroud, OK.
 
Someone posted a map that showed that the new geographic midpoint of the conference (after Colorado & Nebraska leave) will be just outside of Stroud, OK.

Bookout would approve of having a tournament in Stroud.
 
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