Cade davis

[campbest]

How many other designated 3pt shooters lead their team in rebounding?

Cade's a great rebounder, but on the offensive end, he is a designated 3pt shooter. You know it is possible to be both...right? You are allowed to go inside the arc when you're a 3pt shooter, nothing in the rule book which disallows that. There is nothing wrong with that and he's actually done a better job diversifying his game.

Christ, why does everyone take such an offense to being a designated 3pt shooter?

 

[Big Old Booger]

You defended Evans because someone disparaged his contribution (which I respect) but then you went off into fantasyland. Evans had skills, no doubt, but he did have injuries, so his contribution is what it was....limited. BJE never played significant minutes, but he did play quality minutes. You then stated that he was the third most talented post player under Sampson. I simply pointed out two glaring omissions. I made no reference as to who would play what position in what season or any of that garbage, I know it's hard to keep up but can you at least try?

Humphrey and Najera are not glaring omissions because neither had the inside game of Evans. Najera was a better player overall but he could shoot the 3, and he was a hell of a physical presence on defense and the boards. Humphrey was just a shot blocker who could dunk...nothing more.

His contribution may have been limited, but as you admitted it was not due to skill set but to injuries. As a true frosh, he started a number of games. More than any other true frosh big in the Kelvin era, save Bookout. That should tell you something about his potential. In fact, he started as much as a true frosh as Najera did as a redshirt frosh.

I would suggest you are the one that can't keep up. Maybe you should stop studying stats and watch the games. :ez-laugh:

 

[Section31]

68% of Cade's shots over his career have been 3pt's.

He will most likely shoot over 175 3pt's this year.

Cade is a designated 3pt shooter.

Using this logic, here is a list of "designated 3P shooters" in the Big XII:

3-Point Field Goals Made
## Player-Team Cl G 3FG Avg/G
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1.Dunn, LaceDarius-BU...... SR 24 82 3.42
2.Christopherson,Scott-ISU. JR 27 77 2.85
3.Hamilton, Jordan-UT...... SO 28 74 2.64
4.Roberson, John-TTU....... SR 26 67 2.58
5.Vanderbeken, Jamie-ISU... SR 25 59 2.36
6.Denmon, Marcus-MU........ JR 28 64 2.29
7.Pullen, Jacob-KSU........ SR 25 57 2.28
8.McGruder, Rodney-KSU..... SO 28 61 2.18
9.Davis, Cade-OU........... SR 26 56 2.15
10.Pledger, Steven-OU....... SO 27 54 2.00
11.Garrett, Diante-ISU...... SR 28 54 1.93
Knutson, Levi-CU......... SR 28 54 1.93
Reed, Tyrel-KU........... SR 28 54 1.93
14.English, Kim-MU.......... JR 28 49 1.75
15.Page, Keiton-OSU......... JR 27 46 1.70

I think that a few of the ARE just that, but to use the statistics you used is OBVIOUSLY not how to determine that. Of course, I guess it could just be one's opinion, so I'll leave it alone.

 

[StoopsBros]

If Cade was on a talented team, he'd be someones designated 3pt shooter, off the bench.

 

[StatGeek]

Fify

Look at conference games only my friend, they are a better measure.

 

[StoopsBros]

Look at conference games only my friend, they are a better measure.

Geez, that's really using stats to skew a convo. I'll pass. Cade's rebounding because no one else can. He's not challenging Rodman for any rebounding crown.

 

[Section31]

Look at conference games only my friend, they are a better measure.

See above

 

[StatGeek]

Cade's a great rebounder, but on the offensive end, he is a designated 3pt shooter. You know it is possible to be both...right? You are allowed to go inside the arc when you're a 3pt shooter, nothing in the rule book which disallows that. There is nothing wrong with that and he's actually done a better job diversifying his game.

Christ, why does everyone take such an offense to being a designated 3pt shooter?

A designated 3pt shooter is someone like Pledge, doesn't do anything else, that's why. If all CD contributed was 3pt shooting, then he would be considerably less valuable.

 

[campbest]

Using this logic, here is a list of "designated 3P shooters" in the Big XII:

3-Point Field Goals Made
## Player-Team Cl G 3FG Avg/G
----------------------------------------------
1.Dunn, LaceDarius-BU...... SR 24 82 3.42
2.Christopherson,Scott-ISU. JR 27 77 2.85
3.Hamilton, Jordan-UT...... SO 28 74 2.64
4.Roberson, John-TTU....... SR 26 67 2.58
5.Vanderbeken, Jamie-ISU... SR 25 59 2.36
6.Denmon, Marcus-MU........ JR 28 64 2.29
7.Pullen, Jacob-KSU........ SR 25 57 2.28
8.McGruder, Rodney-KSU..... SO 28 61 2.18
9.Davis, Cade-OU........... SR 26 56 2.15
10.Pledger, Steven-OU....... SO 27 54 2.00
11.Garrett, Diante-ISU...... SR 28 54 1.93
Knutson, Levi-CU......... SR 28 54 1.93
Reed, Tyrel-KU........... SR 28 54 1.93
14.English, Kim-MU.......... JR 28 49 1.75
15.Page, Keiton-OSU......... JR 27 46 1.70

I think that a few of the ARE just that, but to use the statistics you used is OBVIOUSLY not how to determine that. Of course, I guess it could just be one's opinion, so I'll leave it alone.

lol, you guys are taking the "designated 3pt shooter" title as if that is the only thing he can do. Never implied that at all...on the offensive end, he is more likely to shoot a 3 than a 2 which has been demonstrated since the day he showed up on campus. He is a designated 3pt shooter on the offensive end. We're not running clear outs and post ups for CD, we run him off screens, curls and flares.

It's not rocket science guys. Not bashing him at all, don't see why all of you have your panties in a bunch over my comments. Think I would have some insight on the scenario b/c I was pretty much the exact same player in hs and college.

 

[StoopsBros]

Ok guys, you have the ball with 4 seconds left to go down by 3, who gets the ball?

If you say Pledge, you're just doing it for argument's sake. Who took the shot against Nebraska?

 

[Section31]

lol, you guys are taking the "designated 3pt shooter" title as if that is the only thing he can do. Never implied that at all...on the offensive end, he is more likely to shoot a 3 than a 2 which has been demonstrated since the day he showed up on campus. He is a designated 3pt shooter on the offensive end. We're not running clear outs and post ups for CD, we run him off screens, curls and flares.

It's not rocket science guys. Not bashing him at all, don't see why all of you have your panties in a bunch over my comments. Think I would have some insight on the scenario b/c I was pretty much the exact same player in hs and college.

But the stats in Big XII play don't support that. He shoots more 2-pt shots than 3s. Again, I think its a tough argument to have and it's probably splitting hairs here. I just don't think of Cade as a DESIGNATED 3pt shooter. I don't think that implies anything bad on your part. I just don't feel that way and I think the stats THIS YEAR back that up...

 

[StatGeek]

Geez, that's really using stats to skew a convo. I'll pass. Cade's rebounding because no one else can. He's not challenging Rodman for any rebounding crown.

All games included rebounding is as follows:

Davis 5.19
Fitz 5.18

Fitz has more total rebounds because Cade missed a game.

Your welcome

 

[StoopsBros]

All games included rebounding is as follows:

Davis 5.19
Fitz 5.18

Fitz has more total rebounds because Cade missed a game.

Your welcome

YOU'RE

You didn't say "rebounding per game", you said "lead the team in rebounding"...

I guess we're both right.

 

[campbest]

But the stats in Big XII play don't support that. He shoots more 2-pt shots than 3s. Again, I think its a tough argument to have and it's probably splitting hairs here. I just don't think of Cade as a DESIGNATED 3pt shooter. I don't think that implies anything bad on your part. I just don't feel that way and I think the stats THIS YEAR back that up...

You mean stats in conference...for the year 60% of his shots have been 3's.

Like I said, he's doing a better job of diversifying his game...but he is a base 3pt shooter and there is nothing wrong with that. Give him credit for taking it to the rack more because frankly, 35% is average for someone who's primary ball zone is around the arc.

 

[Section31]

Think I would have some insight on the scenario b/c I was pretty much the exact same player in hs and college.

You're gonna have jesse posting about his "mad skills" again.:ez-roll:

P.S...just messin with YOU...

 

[StatGeek]

Humphrey and Najera are not glaring omissions because neither had the inside game of Evans. Najera was a better player overall but he could shoot the 3, and he was a hell of a physical presence on defense and the boards. Humphrey was just a shot blocker who could dunk...nothing more.

His contribution may have been limited, but as you admitted it was not due to skill set but to injuries. As a true frosh, he started a number of games. More than any other true frosh big in the Kelvin era, save Bookout. That should tell you something about his potential. In fact, he started as much as a true frosh as Najera did as a redshirt frosh.

I would suggest you are the one that can't keep up. Maybe you should stop studying stats and watch the games. :ez-laugh:

Your embarrassing yourself, you do know that Humphrey started way more games as a Frosh than BJE, right? Truly comical.

 

[Section31]

You mean stats in conference...for the year 60% of his shots have been 3's.

Like I said, he's doing a better job of diversifying his game...but he is a base 3pt shooter and there is nothing wrong with that. Give him credit for taking it to the rack more because frankly, 35% is average for someone who's primary ball zone is around the arc.

That's all I think we're saying. In OUR opinion (I think I can speak for these guys), a DESIGNATED 3pt shooter DOESN'T diversify their game. By definition of the word designate, it doesn't happen.

 

[StatGeek]

YOU'RE

You didn't say "rebounding per game", you said "lead the team in rebounding"...

I guess we're both right.

Now who is skewing stats?

 

[Big Old Booger]

Your embarrassing yourself, you do know that Humphrey started way more games as a Frosh than BJE, right? Truly comical.

Only because BJE was injured. Trust me on this one...Kelvin told my dad with me sitting right there that BJE would have started every game had be been healthy.

Humphrey never had the offensive skill set of Evans. Never.

 

[StatGeek]

Only because BJE was injured. Trust me on this one...Kelvin told my dad with me sitting right there that BJE would have started every game had be been healthy.

So you admit you were wrong again. It takes a big poster to do so, I commend you.