Cade davis

[StatGeek]

Don't be deceived by Evans low averages. He was a force inside and would have at the minimum been an all conference type player, and possibly an all american. He was the #1 player out of Texas when he signed with OU and a lot of Kelvin bashers that complained about the 4 straight 1 and done's in the tourney forget that we had a huge hole in the lineup due to Evans injury.

I don't think he helps us in the Stanford game because that was just a bad matchup for us and if I remember correctly, that Stanford team went to the Final 4 or elite 8.

I do, however, think with him we beat Indiana in 98, possibly beat Michigan State in 99, and probably advance to the final 4 in 2000 because we would have beaten Purdue and then beaten Gonzaga and Wisconsin for sure.

He was probably the most skilled big man of the Sampson era other than Ace McGhee and Taj Gray, although I think Evans was a better shooter with a
plethora of good post moves whereas Gray was an above the rim type player who also had some good moves.

So your arguing that if CD would have been on the roster at that time, Evans would have never gotten hurt, and he would have realized his potential? As for most skilled post player...... I guess R Humphrey & E Najera never suited up. You have to love nostalgia.

 

[campbest]

Second the Big XII is one of the better conferences in college basketball. There are over 300 teams with 13 scholarship players each or over 3,900 players. Jesse's stats suggest Cade ia bout in the Top 10% of 3 point shooters in college basketball. That is way better than average.

I don't think Davis should be celebrated for having a better 3pt % than CJ Washington.

Cade's shooting percentages from behind the arc are average his position. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Big Old Booger]

I think virtually all of you are nuts. First Cade Davis is better than average as a college player. He stars in the Big XII and is 13th in 3 point shooting. There are 36 starters in the Big XII that should have a respectable three point shot (12 pg, 12 2g and 12 wings) as well as a bunch of bench players. Obviously Cade is above average in the Big XII.

Second the Big XII is one of the better conferences in college basketball. There are over 300 teams with 13 scholarship players each or over 3,900 players. Jesse's stats suggest Cade ia bout in the Top 10% of 3 point shooters in college basketball. That is way better than average.

Those that think Cade starts on virtually every single Sampson team are also wrong. There is simply no way Cade Davis starts over Nolan Johnson. He might start with him but not in place of him. If you will recall Nolan individually took over games and won them for OU his senior year (and he did a lot). The spread the floor and Nolan took his man to the whole for a bucket. In multiple games that was the offense in the last 5 or so minutes.

Those that think Cade doesn't get significant minutes on those teams are wrong. Cade would get minutes on virtually any team simply because he is Cade Davis. The guy works hard and he would play his role. If that role was to be the lock down defender and never shoot, he would smile and do it without complaint. He would also do it effecively.

I agree with this and has been my point this entire thread. The kid plays with heart and hustle and has a good enough offensive game and can hit free throws which qualifies him to play a lot of minutes for Kelvin's teams. Like I said though, most of Kelvin's 3's were very good players and IMO, that's the position Cade would have played in KS offense. I think he plays a lot, and probably has to play the 4 sometimes for a Kelvin team, and maybe the 2G in certain situations but I don't think he starts in those positions unless something else happened (injury, ineligibility, etc.).

 

[StoopsBros]

I remember Evans' game...I like him but I would have had him coming off the bench. I don't need him and Wiley both starting. I would have had Najera starting at the 4. But again..this is one of those things...do you want more scoring or more height. His presence was felt but his rebounding was lacking.

But then you take a mismatch away and even the game up. Najera would have struggled to match the size of the some of the 4s in bball at the time. Cade would struggle to guard the SFs as well.

 

[Shooterms]

I think virtually all of you are nuts. First Cade Davis is better than average as a college player. He stars in the Big XII and is 13th in 3 point shooting. There are 36 starters in the Big XII that should have a respectable three point shot (12 pg, 12 2g and 12 wings) as well as a bunch of bench players. Obviously Cade is above average in the Big XII.

Second the Big XII is one of the better conferences in college basketball. There are over 300 teams with 13 scholarship players each or over 3,900 players. Jesse's stats suggest Cade ia bout in the Top 10% of 3 point shooters in college basketball. That is way better than average.

Those that think Cade starts on virtually every single Sampson team are also wrong. There is simply no way Cade Davis starts over Nolan Johnson. He might start with him but not in place of him. If you will recall Nolan individually took over games and won them for OU his senior year (and he did a lot). The spread the floor and Nolan took his man to the whole for a bucket. In multiple games that was the offense in the last 5 or so minutes.

Those that think Cade doesn't get significant minutes on those teams are wrong. Cade would get minutes on virtually any team simply because he is Cade Davis. The guy works hard and he would play his role. If that role was to be the lock down defender and never shoot, he would smile and do it without complaint. He would also do it effecively.

:clap

 

[Big Old Booger]

So your arguing that if CD would have been on the roster at that time, Evans would have never gotten hurt, and he would have realized his potential? As for most skilled post player...... I guess R Humphrey & E Najera never suited up. You have to love nostalgia.

Nostalgia? How about Humphrey didn't play until the 98 season, so he wasn't on the 97 team. Not to mention, Humphrey had a very poor offensive game. If it wasn't a dunk, more than likely he wasn't going to make the shot. I would take Evans over Humphrey any day in a 1-on-1 competition and it's not even close.

As mentioned later, Najera was a post but was undersized and not as skilled as Evans. Najera ended up playing the power forward and by that time Evans would have been a 5 and started in place of Stone.

Nobody that watched those teams can argue with any of the facts I've presented here.

 

[StoopsBros]

Second the Big XII is one of the better conferences in college basketball. There are over 300 teams with 13 scholarship players each or over 3,900 players. Jesse's stats suggest Cade ia bout in the Top 10% of 3 point shooters in college basketball. That is way better than average.

Not all of those 3900 players are designated 3 point shooters. Let's probably put the number at about 500-1000 3 point shooters.

 

[StatGeek]

Nostalgia? How about Humphrey didn't play until the 98 season, so he wasn't on the 97 team. Not to mention, Humphrey had a very poor offensive game. If it wasn't a dunk, more than likely he wasn't going to make the shot. I would take Evans over Humphrey any day in a 1-on-1 competition and it's not even close.

As mentioned later, Najera was a post but was undersized and not as skilled as Evans. Najera ended up playing the power forward and by that time Evans would have been a 5 and started in place of Stone.

Nobody that watched those teams can argue with any of the facts I've presented here.

What is your IQ? Read the post I quoted and then respond appropriately.

 

[StatGeek]

Not all of those 3900 players are designated 3 point shooters. Let's probably put the number at about 500-1000 3 point shooters.

So Cade is a designated 3pt shooter? News to me. I just thought he was a tough player who does whatever he can to help the team. You know, like guarding any position, leading the team in rebounding, leading the team in steals, etc.

 

[Big Old Booger]

What is your IQ? Read the post I quoted and then respond appropriately.

Higher than yours I'm sure. Go back and read my original post about Evans...it had nothing to do with Cade.

If Cade had been on that team, he wouldn't have started over Evans unless Evans was hurt which he was in 98, 99, and 2000.

Humphrey and Najera didn't have the offensive skill set of Evans. Not back then, never. The guy had a bad back and was severely limited. He hardly practiced any of those years yet still played a lot of minutes because Kelvin knew what the kid could do.

He was not the physical presence of either Humphrey or Najera, but his offensive game was light years better.

 

[campbest]

So Cade is a designated 3pt shooter? News to me. I just thought he was a tough player who does whatever he can to help the team. You know, like guarding any position, leading the team in rebounding, leading the team in steals, etc.

I am glad to hear that you don't consider Cade to be a shooting Guard when the rest of the world does.

 

[Sooner04]

Cade is a good, solid player. On a team with Final Four aspirations he'd be the #1 or #2 option off the bench. On a good team, he would be a valuable asset who plays starter minutes. On a lousy team, like ours this year, he's the unquestioned leader and go-to guy.

I don't think Cade is a good enough player to carry a team to big-time success, but he could certainly contribute on ANY great team in college basketball.

 

[StoopsBros]

So Cade is a designated 3pt shooter? News to me. I just thought he was a tough player who does whatever he can to help the team. You know, like guarding any position, leading the team in rebounding, leading the team in steals, etc.

Designated may be the wrong word. On this team, Cade gets the ball when we need a three (most times). It's either him or Pledge (both are just decent at it). So, yes, for this team, Cade is the guy or top 2 guy.

Fitz holds the edge in both steals and rebounds by the way.

 

[Section31]

Cade is a good, solid player. On a team with Final Four aspirations he'd be the #1 or #2 option off the bench. On a good team, he would be a valuable asset who plays starter minutes. On a lousy team, like ours this year, he's the unquestioned leader and go-to guy.

I don't think Cade is a good enough player to carry a team to big-time success, but he could certainly contribute on ANY great team in college basketball.

:clap:clap:clap

 

[campbest]

68% of Cade's shots over his career have been 3pt's.

He will most likely shoot over 175 3pt's this year.

Cade is a designated 3pt shooter.

 

[Section31]

What are you confused about?

Cade IS a SG, that has to play some post. He's OBVIOUSLY not a designated 3P shooter although he shoots A LOT of em...but so do MOST SGs...

 

[StatGeek]

Higher than yours I'm sure. Go back and read my original post about Evans...it had nothing to do with Cade.

If Cade had been on that team, he wouldn't have started over Evans unless Evans was hurt which he was in 98, 99, and 2000.

Humphrey and Najera didn't have the offensive skill set of Evans. Not back then, never. The guy had a bad back and was severely limited. He hardly practiced any of those years yet still played a lot of minutes because Kelvin knew what the kid could do.

He was not the physical presence of either Humphrey or Najera, but his offensive game was light years better.

You defended Evans because someone disparaged his contribution (which I respect) but then you went off into fantasyland. Evans had skills, no doubt, but he did have injuries, so his contribution is what it was....limited. BJE never played significant minutes, but he did play quality minutes. You then stated that he was the third most talented post player under Sampson. I simply pointed out two glaring omissions. I made no reference as to who would play what position in what season or any of that garbage, I know it's hard to keep up but can you at least try?

 

[StatGeek]

68% of Cade's shots over his career have been 3pt's.

He will most likely shoot over 175 3pt's this year.

Cade is a designated 3pt shooter.

How many other designated 3pt shooters lead their team in rebounding?

 

[StoopsBros]

How many other designated 3pt shooters are second on the team in rebounding?

Fify

 

[campbest]

What are you confused about?

Cade IS a SG, that has to play some post. He's OBVIOUSLY not a designated 3P shooter although he shoots A LOT of em...but so do MOST SGs...

I was confused b/c one guy said it was news to him that Cade is a designated 3pt shooter, while another said the whole world knew it. Just thought it was funny.

Listen, Cade can shoot as many 3pt's as he wants in my mind...if I was him and knew we were probably going to lose anyway I would be chucking up some J's on the reg. With that said, if you don't think he's a 3pt shooter than you're crazy.

Guarantee KU's scouting report handed out on the bus tomorrow will say "Cade Davis: 3pt shooter, blah, blah, blah". If you shoot nearly 70% of your shots in a career from behind the arc, you are a designated 3pt shooter.

Spin it anyway you want, doesn't matter if he plays post, he is a designated 3pt shooter.