Cade looked like Cade....

[jmizzy4ou]

I'm afraid that is the only solution. Or can we just get a separate "Cade Sucks" board? The irony is that if Cade hits one more three he ends up with 17, which would have been about +7 from his average last season. Think ABD would have said that he was wrong about Cade? Nope.

I can understand the frustration with guys like TMG and Tiny, and even Willie Warren, but what OU fan would continually bash Cade Davis? The guy is a good character guy, plays hard and helps the team night in and night out. Seems like he would get a little more respect for bringing that to the table instead of getting ragged on after the first game (in which he played injured).[/QUOTE]

I'm just going to park my car right here with Mr B. Cade is a great team guy, and we never have to worry about his effort/character. That alone is enough for me to love the kid.....

 

[Max Power]

That is the debate, you are correct.



Lol, and his team had to come from behind in the second half and pull away from Northern State on free throws....

30% from the field, 28% from 3, played nearly every minute of the game.

He is 37% from the field, 33% from 3 on his career.. So, Cade continues to play and shoot like Cade, which is the point I made in this thread. People on here think he can average 15 ppg for a solid team, and I say he isn't that type of player.

And Syracuse lost to Lamoyne last year. They are exhibition games. In his first game wearing a face mask he had 14 points and his Team WON. I know it pains you that this team pulled out the victory but they did and he was a big part of that. You admitted as much above since he played almost every minute.

 

[Max Power]

Cade starts and he plays for a big12 team so, that debate was won by the people who said yes. Last I looked, OU didn't finish last in the league last year and I never saw abd question the starters for the teams that did finish last. As a matter of fact, he bragged about their starter.

This is what you call taking the debate to another level once you lose. Now he's trying to say Cade is just an average player. But it's funny how we can copy and paste stats of guys who have half the resume of Cade and talk about their potential, but then be flippant about someone who's accomplished more than the bums that are bragged about.

:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap

 

[IBleedCrimson&Cream]

Cade played 38 minutes...out of 40. Yep, definitely a role player. :facepalm

Cade is one of our top guys, whether you like it or not. And all your complaining about how bad he is won't change that.

 

[thebigabd]

I still don't think you guys grasp what I am saying here.

Cade is the exact same player he always has been. Some of you guys think he can average 15 (ish) per game on a solid team. I mean, how many shooting guards shoot 35% from the field on their career? He basically just followed his career stats the other night. 30% from the field and 3.

The point here is that he shouldnt be taking 13 shots a game. He shouldnt be shooting 7 threes a game. He shouldnt be playing 38 minutes a game. But, for this team he is going to and our record will probably reflect that.

For the 30-6 Blake Griffin OU team, Cade played in every game, started 1, and played 15 minutes a game. That is the same kind of role he would have THIS YEAR as a senior for Kansas, Missouri, K-State, and other top teams in the league.

 

[hoopsaustin]

Who cares? He's on our team not kansas so what's the point?

 

[thebigabd]

Who cares? He's on our team not kansas so what's the point?

I thought I made the point unbelievably clear....

So are we adding Cade Davis to the list of things we dont care about?

• OU's Maui opponents
• OU's non-conference opponents
• OU's conference opponents
• OU player rankings
• OU coaching staff opinions
• OU recruiting issues
• Stats and Facts regarding OU or other teams
• Cade Davis and his role for OU

Got it down!

 

[campbest]

I thought I made the point unbelievably clear....

So are we adding Cade Davis to the list of things we dont care about?

• OU's Maui opponents
• OU's non-conference opponents
• OU's conference opponents
• OU player rankings
• OU coaching staff opinions
• OU recruiting issues
• Stats and Facts regarding OU or other teams
• Cade Davis and his role for OU

Got it down!

lol

 

[Mr.B!!!]

I still don't think you guys grasp what I am saying here.

Cade is the exact same player he always has been. Some of you guys think he can average 15 (ish) per game on a solid team. I mean, how many shooting guards shoot 35% from the field on their career? He basically just followed his career stats the other night. 30% from the field and 3.

The point here is that he shouldnt be taking 13 shots a game. He shouldnt be shooting 7 threes a game. He shouldnt be playing 38 minutes a game. But, for this team he is going to and our record will probably reflect that.

For the 30-6 Blake Griffin OU team, Cade played in every game, started 1, and played 15 minutes a game. That is the same kind of role he would have THIS YEAR as a senior for Kansas, Missouri, K-State, and other top teams in the league.

Everything highlighted is new, specifically the "solid team" argument that you are throwing in now.

 

[seniorsooner]

Nobody beats us over the head with knowledge we already have quite like ABD. And nobody pats themselves on the back for dropping such earth shattering knowledge on us quite like ABD. ZOMG you mean Cade wouldn't average 15 a game at Kansas?!??? Shocking. Thanks for enlightening us.

 

[boksooner]

I still don't think you guys grasp what I am saying here.

Cade is the exact same player he always has been. Some of you guys think he can average 15 (ish) per game on a solid team. I mean, how many shooting guards shoot 35% from the field on their career? He basically just followed his career stats the other night. 30% from the field and 3.

The point here is that he shouldnt be taking 13 shots a game. He shouldnt be shooting 7 threes a game. He shouldnt be playing 38 minutes a game. But, for this team he is going to and our record will probably reflect that.

For the 30-6 Blake Griffin OU team, Cade played in every game, started 1, and played 15 minutes a game. That is the same kind of role he would have THIS YEAR as a senior for Kansas, Missouri, K-State, and other top teams in the league.

He is a solid defender. He rebounds well from the guard position. He has improved his handles and drive every year since his freshman year. He has always been a streaky shooter. I agree that he shouldn't be taking 7 threes per game, but it is ridiculous to say that he would not be a significant player for other teams as well. He is, clearly, not the most talented player on the team, but in many ways he is the most versatile. We don't know, yet, whether Cade shows the kind of improvement that he has after the previous two off-seasons.

Even if he does improve at the same rate he has previously, I'm not sure if he will score 15 points per game. I'm not sure if anyone will score 15 points per game. We are more likely to have 5-6 guys that score 8-13 points per game.
Focusing on Cade's shooting proves that you don't understand Cade's value.

You like to focus on other players conference stats, so lets look at Cade's conference stats last year.

Minutes: 35.6
FG/3pt%/FT: .408/.361/.714
Reb: 4.7
Ast: 1.3
Stl: 1.3
Blk: .4
Pts: 11.5

If he does that this year in a "supporting role," then we can be a heck of a team.

 

[hoopsaustin]

This adb just doesn't get it.. We have played ONE game.... ONE.. but yet he's saying cade hasn't gotten any better... Wow.. You make no sense and you are annoying me

 

[stoops4pres]

He is a solid defender. He rebounds well from the guard position. He has improved his handles and drive every year since his freshman year. He has always been a streaky shooter. I agree that he shouldn't be taking 7 threes per game, but it is ridiculous to say that he would not be a significant player for other teams as well. He is, clearly, not the most talented player on the team, but in many ways he is the most versatile. We don't know, yet, whether Cade shows the kind of improvement that he has after the previous two off-seasons.

Even if he does improve at the same rate he has previously, I'm not sure if he will score 15 points per game. I'm not sure if anyone will score 15 points per game. We are more likely to have 5-6 guys that score 8-13 points per game.
Focusing on Cade's shooting proves that you don't understand Cade's value.

You like to focus on other players conference stats, so lets look at Cade's conference stats last year.

Minutes: 35.6
FG/3pt%/FT: .408/.361/.714
Reb: 4.7
Ast: 1.3
Stl: 1.3
Blk: .4
Pts: 11.5

If he does that this year in a "supporting role," then we can be a heck of a team.

:clap :clap :clap

 

[Mr.B!!!]

:clap :clap :clap

:woot:woot:woot:woot:woot:woot:woot:woot:woot:woot

 

[p230]

Lets not get too worked up about abd's comment's. After all 15 minutes a game for Kansas or others puts him in pretty good company. I also agree that he should not have to take that many shots a game but "want to and have to" are different things. Most OU fans are expecting a lot out of Cade and he knows it. Add to it other things we are "expecting" him to do and it is a heavy burden he is carrying. For example as the lone senior we are more or less expecting him to get the underclassmen to work and practice like they are supposed to unlike what happed last year. For all intents and purposes he is laying the foundating for the way the team "works" for years to come, that is a lot to expect from one guy. I mean for Jr's we have a walk on and three transfers for pete's sake! With the exception for T.J. Franklin the other three are still learning what is expected of them as Sooners. I know the good things that have been said about Thompson and Osby and Washington but they are still newbies and Cade has to lead. That to me is his toughest job and most important. He needs to be a steady hand on the tiller and guide these guys. The fact that he is going to be relied on day in and day out to be a top player until the rest gets settled in just makes it harder. I realize Cade has limitations but I appreciate him as much for the things he does while the cameras aren't on as when they are. Reguardless of his skill on the court we will miss him when he is gone and should enjoy watching him now. I just feel bad that if he succedes in helping turn things around he won't be here to enjoy the Big Dance again.

Sorry for it being so long.

 

[aaron7]

I only know one thing for sure. I have watched Cade play basketball since he was a freshman in high school. He has improved every single year. I have no reason to believe he won't continue that improvement, but it's ok if he doesn't. He could make the All Big XII team this year and it wouldn't be his most important contribution to the program. Setting an example of working hard to achieve greatness for the current crop of talented young guys will be his lasting impression on the program. He will be the guy to instill the values that keep last year from never happening again.

 

[scrybe]

i thought i made the point unbelievably clear....

So are we adding cade davis to the list of things we dont care about?

• ou's maui opponents
• ou's non-conference opponents
• ou's conference opponents
• ou player rankings
• ou coaching staff opinions
• ou recruiting issues
• stats and facts regarding ou or other teams
• cade davis and his role for ou
• thebigabd and his inane lists

got it down!

fify

 

[stoopified]

haha no kidding. He also did it on an off shooting night.

If you look at Cade's career,that was NOT an off night shooting but an average night.I love Cade for what he is: a guy who can get 8-10 points 4-5 boards,couple of loose balls and take some charges.Cade is NOT a prime scorer.38 % career shooting,32% career 3pt tells you that.Cade will lead this team in hustle,not scoring.

 

[boksooner]

I'm not sure why people keep throwing his career percentages out there, when his percentages have improved every year. I'm not sure what his shooting from 07-08 has to do with how he will play in 10-11.

Season Averages
SEASON......	TEAM	MIN	PTS	REB	AST	TO	A/T	STL	BLK	PF	FG%	FT%	3P%	PPS
2007-2008	OKLA	13.3	3.7	1.5	.4	.7	.60	.3	.1	1.1	.320	1.000	.275	1.07
2008-2009	OKLA	14.6	4.7	1.7	.9	.3	2.75	.4	.1	1.5	.383	.656	.345	1.23
2009-2010	OKLA	31.8	9.9	3.9	1.0	.8	1.19	1.5	.3	2.2	.392	.778	.347	1.20
09-10 Conf	OKLA	35.6	11.5	4.7	1.3	1.1	1.2	1.3	.4	2.5	.408	.714	.361	1.21

And before I move on, Cade was 12th in 3pt% in Big XII play, last year. And many of the people that shot better are gone.

3-Point Field Goal Percentage (Min. 1.5 made per game)
## Player-Team               Cl  G   3FG   FGA   Pct
----------------------------------------------------
 1.Anderson, Ryan-NU........ SR 15    34    70  .486
 2.Dunn, LaceDarius-BU...... JR 16    56   118  .475
 3.Muonelo, Obi-OSU......... SR 16    48   111  .432
 4.Mason-Griffin, Tommy-OU.. FR 16    46   107  .430
 5.Bradley, Avery-UT........ FR 16    26    62  .419
 6.Denmon, Marcus-MU........ SO 16    33    79  .418
 7.Roberson, John-TTU....... JR 16    33    80  .413
 8.Anderson, James-OSU...... JR 16    42   104  .404
 9.Christopherson,Scott-ISU. SO 16    26    68  .382
10.Collins, Sherron-KU...... SR 16    32    88  .364
11.Gilstrap, Marquis-ISU.... SR 16    25    69  .362
[B]12.Davis, Cade-OU........... JR 16    35    97  .361[/B]
13.Carter, Tweety-BU........ SR 16    36   101  .356
14.Henry, Xavier-KU......... FR 16    26    73  .356
   Hamilton, Jordan-UT...... FR 16    26    73  .356

 

[boksooner]

I'm not trying to say Cade is an elite player or scorer (cause he's not), but it is insulting to call him just a hustle guy.