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hoopsaustin said:
Derp. Black lives matter is a slogan AND a political org but blue lives matter is NOT a slogan and is ONLY a political org bc reasons.. derp
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Blue isn’t a race, it’s a job. Goodyear said matters of racial injustice & equality would be allowed. But good try though.
 
BCSooners said:
Black Lives Matter is a movement to help bring awareness to racial injustice & to stop police brutality. The BLM organization did not start the movement, so really Black Lives Matter isn't in support of the organization it's in support of correcting racial injustice.

Blue Lives Matter & All Lives Matter was created based off their misunderstanding that BLM means "only black lives matter" which is dumb. Blue isn't a race so it wouldn't fall under the category as bringing awareness to racial issues as Goodyear stated.
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BLM is a clever semantic trap....a play on words that calls out alleged injustices and inequities. And of course...."black lives matter", I don't know anyone who disagrees with that.

However, because it's a semantic trap, you must now support BLM as a movement/organization....or else you don't support black lives. And that is where I get off the train. As an organization, it is Marxist with their philosophy and ideas concerning societal norms, being against the nuclear family, and the idea of "tearing something down to build it up". Much of it is still vague platitudes that don't really define their grievances. For example, take criminal justice reform. Well, what do they want to reform (lighter sentences, less arrests, "de-criminalizing" criminal behavior, etc.)...who the hell knows? In retrospect, I think it's designed to be hazy and imprecise.

Again, if you disagree with the BLM movement/organization even on principled grounds....it still doesn't matter because you're a racist at worst....and at minimum, tone deaf.

BC is correct, BLM is actually two different things that is cunningly designed to gaslight you into thinking it's actually one grand campaign. As for being political, it's tough to argue it's not a political statement because it's identity politics at its core.
 
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stormspencer said:
BLM is a clever semantic trap....a play on words that calls out alleged injustices and inequities. And of course...."black lives matter", I don't know anyone who disagrees with that.

However, because it's a semantic trap, you must now support BLM as a movement/organization....or else you don't support black lives. And that is where I get off the train. As an organization, it is Marxist with their philosophy and ideas concerning societal norms, being against the nuclear family, and the idea of "tearing something down to build it up". Much of it is still vague platitudes that don't really define their grievances. For example, take criminal justice reform. Well, what do they want to reform (lighter sentences, less arrests, "de-criminalizing" criminal behavior, etc.)...who the hell knows? In retrospect, I think it's designed to be hazy and imprecise.

Again, if you disagree with the BLM movement/organization on principled grounds....it still doesn't matter because you're a racist at worst....and at minimum, tone deaf.

BC is correct, BLM is actually two different things that is cunningly designed to gaslight you into thinking it's actually one grand campaign. As for being political, it's tough to argue it's not a political statement because it's identity politics at its core.
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Good post.

You can definitely support the movement & not the organization, that’s what I do.

I don’t see how trying to raise awareness on racial inequality is political, it’s trying to make our world better. Even other countries were mass protesting the police killings that happened in the US. Now if you put something specifically citing the BLM organization then that is political.
 
stormspencer said:
BLM is a clever semantic trap....a play on words that calls out alleged injustices and inequities. And of course...."black lives matter", I don't know anyone who disagrees with that.

However, because it's a semantic trap, you must now support BLM as a movement/organization....or else you don't support black lives. And that is where I get off the train. As an organization, it is Marxist with their philosophy and ideas concerning societal norms, being against the nuclear family, and the idea of "tearing something down to build it up". Much of it is still vague platitudes that don't really define their grievances. For example, take criminal justice reform. Well, what do they want to reform (lighter sentences, less arrests, "de-criminalizing" criminal behavior, etc.)...who the hell knows? In retrospect, I think it's designed to be hazy and imprecise.

Again, if you disagree with the BLM movement/organization even on principled grounds....it still doesn't matter because you're a racist at worst....and at minimum, tone deaf.

BC is correct, BLM is actually two different things that is cunningly designed to gaslight you into thinking it's actually one grand campaign. As for being political, it's tough to argue it's not a political statement because it's identity politics at its core.
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Yep

solve et coagula
 
BCSooners said:
Good post.

You can definitely support the movement & not the organization, that’s what I do.

I don’t see how trying to raise awareness on racial inequality is political, it’s trying to make our world better. Even other countries were mass protesting the police killings that happened in the US. Now if you put something specifically citing the BLM organization then that is political.
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Which is why I said it was convenient. You can where blm stuff at good year and claim it’s not political.

But somehow blue lives matter is
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
Which is why I said it was convenient. You can where blm stuff at good year and claim it’s not political.

But somehow blue lives matter is
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Again Goodyear said messages of racial injustice & equality would be allowed, blue is not a race.
 
BCSooners said:
Again Goodyear said messages of racial injustice & equality would be allowed, blue is not a race.
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When an individual wears BLM garb how do you know if they are for the movement or the organization or both?
 
Biden has no policy. His policy is I hate Trump and wear a mask. He’s devoid of any substance. Kamala is a train wreck that nobody likes. Trumps approval ratings get a bump during DNC. LOL.

TRUMP wins again.

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BCSooners said:
Blue isn’t a race, it’s a job. Goodyear said matters of racial injustice & equality would be allowed. But good try though.
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The problem here is that you unilaterally deem that the blm "movement" is magically not political while at the same time the "movement" is clearly political to anyone with a brain. Everything is politics.

And why again would supporting police aka "blue" magically not fit into the "equality" bucket? I think its not very "fair" and "equal" treatment that blm/antifa rioters attack/kill police aka "blue".. other professions don't get attacked by them and targeted... that can't possibly fit into the "equality" bucket.. :ez-laugh:
 
The wiki description of Blue Lives Matter is:

Blue Lives Matter is a countermovement in the United States advocating that those who are prosecuted and convicted of killing law enforcement officers should be sentenced under hate crime statutes. It was started in response to Black Lives Matter after the homicides of NYPD officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu in Brooklyn, New York on December 20, 2014
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Another prominent Blue Lives Matter website leads you to a news site to provide context into police incidents, called the Police Tribune..... it is owned by Warrior 12. Warrior 12 is a business that runs a lot of Blue Lives Matter stuff, and sells merchandise. Such as:

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At a Blue Lives Rally in New York, with Trump flags, Trump people, guests who are on Hannity, apparently working with super conservative people in Congress, tells his crowd of Blue Lives Matter people that we are in the midst of a civil war, we just haven't gone to guns yet

https://twitter.com/i/status/1287123388847337474

Blue Lives Matter is not exclusively about supporting police. It's a counter protest to BLM, almost exclusively run by conservatives. There is nothing inherently wrong with it being a counter protest. I guess I don't understand why you guys think it's not a counter to BLM.

My statement was that Blue Lives Matter's sole purpose is to counter BLM. You guys really don't think thats accurate?
 
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