Chad Ford's new mock

[152219]

Warren has stayed at the same position....with the Magic at the bottom of the first round. Gallon has actually moved up to the Nets at #27. If this happens, Gallon obviously made the correct decision to move on (not taking the "loan" into consideration)

 

[152219]

And, in Ford's Chicago round-up after the 2nd day, he said that Gallon showed improved stamina and actually dominated all the big guys inside and that the buzz about him is starting to increase.

 

[skyvue]

Perhaps Tiny should be placed on probation from playing pro ball for as long as we end up on probation for the illegal dough he accepted. (And yes, I know OT should come in for much of the blame, too, but I suspect his career nosedive will be all the punishment he deserves.) When we're free and clear, then he can play for (legal) pay.

 

[IntenseDefense]

Perhaps Tiny should be placed on probation from playing pro ball for as long as we end up on probation for the illegal dough he accepted. (And yes, I know OT should come in for much of the blame, too, but I suspect his career nosedive will be all the punishment he deserves.) When we're free and clear, then he can play for (legal) pay.

:clap

 

[Tony]

Perhaps Tiny should be placed on probation from playing pro ball for as long as we end up on probation for the illegal dough he accepted. (And yes, I know OT should come in for much of the blame, too, but I suspect his career nosedive will be all the punishment he deserves.) When we're free and clear, then he can play for (legal) pay.

These revenge fantasies are really, really weird.

 

[Max Power]

These revenge fantasies are really, really weird.

I was thinking the same thing, let the guy go play, if you hate him that much then act like he doesn't exist

 

[seniorsooner]

Well, I'm not saying I agree with the specific "revenge fantasy" that is being advocated here, but there is something to be said for the fact that these players (OJ Mayo & Reggie Bush come to mind) can take money while they're in college and then leap to the pros with no repercussions whatsoever while they leave their former school in a wake of destruction.

 

[skyvue]

there is something to be said for the fact that these players (OJ Mayo & Reggie Bush come to end) can take money while they're in college and then leap to the pros with no repercussions whatsoever while they leave their former school in a wake of destruction.

Thanks for grasping my point. It's not about revenge; it's about these clowns doing damage at my university (and others, too, of course, but it's OU I care about) and getting off more than scot-free. It's about getting it through their thick, self-entitled heads that they owe the university their best, on and off the court, and if they act in what they view as their own self-interest but against the rules by which they've agreed to abide, there will (or should, in any case) be a price to pay.

I'm tired of "wishing kids well" who look out for themselves and, in the process, do harm to their teammates, their coaches, the fans, and the university.

 

[Sid]

Thanks for grasping my point. It's not about revenge; it's about these clowns doing damage at my university (and others, too, of course, but it's OU I care about) and getting off more than scot-free. It's about getting it through their thick, self-entitled heads that they owe the university their best, on and off the court, and if they act in what they view as their own self-interest but against the rules by which they've agreed to abide, there will (or should, in any case) be a price to pay.

I'm tired of "wishing kids well" who look out for themselves and, in the process, do harm to their teammates, their coaches, the fans, and the university.

:clap

 

[Hollisp]

I'm tired of "wishing kids well" who look out for themselves and, in the process, do harm to their teammates, their coaches, the fans, and the university.

+1

When I envision Tiny in an NBA uniform it doesn't make me angry. I understand that he took advantage of the system that is in place. However, it just annoys me more than anything else. Im not hoping he bombs out, but Im not rooting for him either.

 

[Capel's Mustache]

Thanks for grasping my point. It's not about revenge; it's about these clowns doing damage at my university (and others, too, of course, but it's OU I care about) and getting off more than scot-free. It's about getting it through their thick, self-entitled heads that they owe the university their best, on and off the court, and if they act in what they view as their own self-interest but against the rules by which they've agreed to abide, there will (or should, in any case) be a price to pay.

I'm tired of "wishing kids well" who look out for themselves and, in the process, do harm to their teammates, their coaches, the fans, and the university.

:clap

 

[25mob]

And, in Ford's Chicago round-up after the 2nd day, he said that Gallon showed improved stamina and actually dominated all the big guys inside and that the buzz about him is starting to increase.

then the scouts are going to go back and watch his film and see the real every day tiny.

 

[25mob]

Perhaps Tiny should be placed on probation from playing pro ball for as long as we end up on probation for the illegal dough he accepted. (And yes, I know OT should come in for much of the blame, too, but I suspect his career nosedive will be all the punishment he deserves.) When we're free and clear, then he can play for (legal) pay.

What illegal dough did he except? i thought his mother got a loan and his mother paid it back. Now if there is evidence that has come out to the contrary then i stand corrected.

 

[Cheno]

What illegal dough did he except? i thought his mother got a loan and his mother paid it back. Now if there is evidence that has come out to the contrary then i stand corrected.

A school can loan or coordinate a loan to prospective student athletes. It just can't happen. Otherwise, guys like John Wall would be "loaned" money and then pay it back when they had the money. So they'd be living the life in college until they got paid in the league.

 

[j2d2]

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Thanks for grasping my point. It's not about revenge; it's about these clowns doing damage at my university (and others, too, of course, but it's OU I care about) and getting off more than scot-free. It's about getting it through their thick, self-entitled heads that they owe the university their best, on and off the court, and if they act in what they view as their own self-interest but against the rules by which they've agreed to abide, there will (or should, in any case) be a price to pay.

I'm tired of "wishing kids well" who look out for themselves and, in the process, do harm to their teammates, their coaches, the fans, and the university.

:clap
+2

 

[McG78]

Well, I'm not saying I agree with the specific "revenge fantasy" that is being advocated here, but there is something to be said for the fact that these players (OJ Mayo & Reggie Bush come to mind) can take money while they're in college and then leap to the pros with no repercussions whatsoever while they leave their former school in a wake of destruction.

So should we have demanded Sampson not be able to coach for four years?

 

[McG78]

A school can loan or coordinate a loan to prospective student athletes. It just can't happen. Otherwise, guys like John Wall would be "loaned" money and then pay it back when they had the money. So they'd be living the life in college until they got paid in the league.

Where is the proof that the school or any coach coordinated the loan? Yes there is some circumstantial evidence, but no proof. Is it hard to believe that the financial advisor wanted to land some high profile college players as his client. In the process, the financial advisor befriends an up and coming assistant known for his ability to connect with this type of player. The assitant and the financial advisor are friends and call and text each other. They are in the same state and decide to see each other. (You would have to be a moron to do something illegal on a school phone) Anyways, the school finds out about this relationship when it also discovered that there was some type of relationship between the financial advisor and a player. Even though these interactions were separate, the school fires the coach for not being smart enough to realize that you have to be "clean" both in fact and in appearance.

Unless there is some other transfer of money, do you really think a guy who thinks he is going to be a multi-millionaire in a year or two would risk it over a petty $3,000? Or that $3,000 would really buy his loyalty?

Do you think a coach would be so dumb to use the school phone? Has he never heard of a prepaid phone?

Do you think someone smart enough to work at a major financial institution would do something illegal and brag about it on Twitter?

Doesn't it seem more likely that this was a loan to the player by a guy that wanted to make a name for himself in the basketball arena. Meant not to buy his loyalty but to make him "friends" with this star. That the financial advisor bragged about it on Twitter to catch the eye of others in this basketball arena, all the while, hoping that it would increase his image as a man in the in crowd. That the financial advisor hoped that his friendship with the assistant coach would add credibility to his claims. That the most credibility would be with current players of that assistant coach, and that is where the interactions came from.

 

[Cheno]

Where is the proof that the school or any coach coordinated the loan? Yes there is some circumstantial evidence, but no proof.

That is why there is an investigation going on now.

Is it hard to believe that the financial advisor wanted to land some high profile college players as his client. In the process, the financial advisor befriends an up and coming assistant known for his ability to connect with this type of player. The assitant and the financial advisor are friends and call and text each other.

It's harder to believe all that happened than it is than OT helped arrange the deal especially since he's been terminated and Capel thought it would be best Tiny enter the draft. But yeah, sure, anything is possible.
Regardless, you can take loans from agents or friends of programs. There is just no way to regulate that.

Unless there is some other transfer of money, do you really think a guy who thinks he is going to be a multi-millionaire in a year or two would risk it over a petty $3,000?

Lemme see...with $3k I can play college basketball and without $3k I cannot play college basketball. I wouldn't exactly call that "petty". We're not talking about walking around money here. We're talking money he needed to be eligible.

Do you think a coach would be so dumb to use the school phone?

I wouldn't think so but a number of coaches at the University of Oklahoma have proved otherwise.

Do you think someone smart enough to work at a major financial institution would do something illegal and brag about it on Twitter?

I must have missed where the guy Twittered about giving Tiny Gallon $3k.

Again, nobody knows what exactly happened but anyone suggesting that "loans" made by strangers to star players should be allowed in NCAA is silly. And I have a feeling if the same situation was with a player/coach at OSU you'd be saying the same thing.

 

[TINY]

Where is the proof that the school or any coach coordinated the loan? Yes there is some circumstantial evidence, but no proof. Is it hard to believe that the financial advisor wanted to land some high profile college players as his client. In the process, the financial advisor befriends an up and coming assistant known for his ability to connect with this type of player. The assitant and the financial advisor are friends and call and text each other. They are in the same state and decide to see each other. (You would have to be a moron to do something illegal on a school phone) Anyways, the school finds out about this relationship when it also discovered that there was some type of relationship between the financial advisor and a player. Even though these interactions were separate, the school fires the coach for not being smart enough to realize that you have to be "clean" both in fact and in appearance.

Unless there is some other transfer of money, do you really think a guy who thinks he is going to be a multi-millionaire in a year or two would risk it over a petty $3,000? Or that $3,000 would really buy his loyalty?

Do you think a coach would be so dumb to use the school phone? Has he never heard of a prepaid phone?

Do you think someone smart enough to work at a major financial institution would do something illegal and brag about it on Twitter?

Doesn't it seem more likely that this was a loan to the player by a guy that wanted to make a name for himself in the basketball arena. Meant not to buy his loyalty but to make him "friends" with this star. That the financial advisor bragged about it on Twitter to catch the eye of others in this basketball arena, all the while, hoping that it would increase his image as a man in the in crowd. That the financial advisor hoped that his friendship with the assistant coach would add credibility to his claims. That the most credibility would be with current players of that assistant coach, and that is where the interactions came from.

hold on just a moment, here, McG! everyone on this board knows that you are not allowed to speculate things unless they are worst case scenarios!

It doesn't matter if it seems just as logical, McG! Just listen to cheno, he knows everything man! He is always wishing for the best for OU (#1b favorite) cuz that directly helps his #1a school Kansas! He's a jayhawk fan, so obviously he's a sooner fan, too!

That's how it works, trust cheno, he a huge sooner fan why else would he post over here so much?

 

[Cheno]

So Tiny you think college players should be able to get loans from people they don't know in order to get into college? Who knows if OT did it or not, regardless what Tiny did can't happen. 25Mob said he did nothing illegal. I'm pretty sure the NCAA will say something different. It just can't happen in college athletics. The sad thing is it happens everyday. This isn't an OU problem. This is an NCAA problem. I'd rather they just pay all players something. Lord knows the schools make enough money off these kids.