Current Events Thread

[hoopsaustin]

11 different witnesses contradicted the officer's story. I can't believe the city would have paid out $12 million to Breonna Taylor's family if they thought the officers acted correctly. But who knows?

How many witnesses corroborated "hands up, dont shoot"? People are more willing to lie these days then ever if it furthers their political agenda

 

[hoopsaustin]

You still haven’t explained how the VC isn’t using the EC. You just keep saying how 2 countries don’t use the same system identically.

The EC has already been discredited by the Supreme Court & more closely by ABD. But facts, articles, & discussions won’t deter you.

Whoa when did SCOTUS "discredit" the EC? Lolol

 

[steverocks35]

How many witnesses corroborated "hands up, dont shoot"? People are more willing to lie these days then ever if it furthers their political agenda

Are you just reading all my replies from the previous few days and commenting?

I don't think it's plausible that 11 people lied and that the city awarded the family $12 million but the police acted completely correctly, but I could be wrong. I don't know for sure and neither do you.

 

[hoopsaustin]

You have no idea if they knocked. You have no idea if she was asleep then woken up. It was the middle of the night & they broke down the door & the resident was trying to protect himself & his girlfriend. The person they were looking for hadn’t been there in months. No drugs were found at all. Then the boyfriend said the police were trying to cut him a deal for him to say Taylor was a drug dealer. It was just terrible work the whole way & now someone is dead who didn’t even do anything.

You have no idea that the boyfriends statement is true either.

No one knows the facts better than the AG and the people in that grand jury which created the results here..

I do still want to eliminate no knock warrants for drug spoliation regardless, even if not even applicable here anymore (due to the possible disinformation)

 

[hoopsaustin]

Serious question for the conservative folks on this board.....

It appears to me that Trump is legitimately trying to undermine confidence in t he election. Constantly tweeting about voter fraud, not committing to a peaceful transition of power if he loses, saying if he loses the election was rigged, etc.

Is this a problem to you guys? On any level?

Didnt Clinton just advise Biden to do the same? I must have missed your post regarding that bc it has to be there..

 

[steverocks35]

You have no idea that the boyfriends statement is true either.

No one knows the facts better than the AG and the people in that grand jury which created the results here..

I do still want to eliminate no knock warrants for drug spoliation regardless, even if not even applicable here anymore (due to the possible disinformation)

Did the city of Louisville which awarded her family $12 million know the facts? Seems contradictory to me, but who knows?

 

[steverocks35]

Didnt Clinton just advise Biden to do the same? I must have missed your post regarding that bc it has to be there..

She advised Biden to undermine confidence in the election in advance to be able to claim that the entire thing was a fraud if he lost?

[citation needed]

 

[hoopsaustin]

Yes it should be. We should have voting apps on our phones. If I can bank securely on my iPhone I can vote securely on my iPhone.

You'd ***** about russian conspiracies then. How many votes were changed by russians in 2016?

 

[hoopsaustin]

Absolutely election day should be a national holiday. Mitch McConnell said something to the effect of, "yea, that's what Americans need, is another reason not to go to work" when asked about making election day a national holiday.

Shouldn't be mandatory though.

The electoral college really hurts our voter participation. People that live in solid red/blue states literally don't vote because they feel like they don't have to. Democrats in Oklahoma feel like there is no point, there vote doesn't count. Republicans in Oklahoma feel like they don't need to go vote, because other Republicans will carry the state.

In pretty much every way, the Electoral College is anti-democratic. It drastically reduces voter turnout as well.

If we lived in a country that actually gave a damn about legitimate democracy, you would have:

• No electoral college
• Voting day is a national holiday and a day of celebration of our freedom
• Proportional Representation in government, instead of winner take all systems
• More political parties that represent the true demographics of the nation

That's the cure. Not that complicated. The following free countries do it:

Canada - Japan - Germany - Sweden - Australia - Denmark - Austria - Spain - Italy - UK - Hong Kong - Israel - New Zealand - Netherlands - Norway - Poland - Switzerland - Taiwan - Etc. About 100 countries in total. Otherwise known as "the free world".

The countries that do what we do....

Burma - Burundi - Estonia - India - Madagascar - Nepal - Pakistan - Trinidad and Tobago - Vanuatu

It's unbelievable that we are in the latter list of countries. We aren't on the same list as "the free world", lol. We are on some other list of random countries that typically aren't associated with political genius or freedom.

The fact that we are on the latter list is frankly embarrassing.

EC is 3rd best thing the founders did. But yeah, lets get rid of it solely so dems can win more or every election. Sounds reasonable

 

[hoopsaustin]

They can see the polls and they're desperate. They will do anything to retain power, anything. It's extremely fascistic.

Which party wants to impeach a pres for nominating a justice? Add new states? Pack SCOTUS? eleminate filibuster? Change voting laws? Ect. (Cant track them all)

 

[hoopsaustin]

I love how, in order to protect your man, you've basically resorted to saying we no longer have legitimate democracy in the United States... You are basically saying voter fraud is a big issue, its rampant, its happening "everywhere" (your words)...

If that's what you truly believe, then you've basically given up on the country. If this is what you really think, you think our system is not legitimate and that the whole thing is a sham. We can't trust anything.

You don't get to claim what you are claiming on one hand, and then think America is the greatest place ever on the other to defend against people like me who want to make some changes.

Were a democratic republic.. awkward

 

[steverocks35]

EC is 3rd best thing the founders did. But yeah, lets get rid of it solely so dems can win more or every election. Sounds reasonable

The electoral college is an undemocratic relic of an age when the aristocracy didn't trust the people to decide an election. It's time to chuck it in the dustbin of history.

 

[steverocks35]

Which party wants to impeach a pres for nominating a justice? Add new states? Pack SCOTUS? eleminate filibuster? Change voting laws? Ect. (Cant track them all)

None of that is 1. Illegal 2. to retain executive power.

 

[steverocks35]

Were a democratic republic.. awkward

This is the dumbest talking point. What do you think this proves? You can be a democratic republic AND a democracy. We are both. The two things are not mutually exclusive.

 

[thebigabd]

The electoral college is an undemocratic relic of an age when the aristocracy didn't trust the people to decide an election. It's time to chuck it in the dustbin of history.

Yes. Let Burma and Burundi be the only countries left doing it. That's not the list you want to be on.

 

[hoopsaustin]

If Hunter Biden broke some laws then indict him and prosecute him. I have no problem with that. But the report released by the Republican senate committee found no evidence that he broke any laws.

Well see about that.. but even when dems break laws like hillary (i read that statute and it didn't require a mens rea of "intent" at all - i think it was extreme recklessness or gross negligence and comey said "extreme carelessness even after the edits from the dem operatives) the doj just changes the rules and dont apply the law anyways..

 

[hoopsaustin]

Are you just reading all my replies from the previous few days and commenting?

I don't think it's plausible that 11 people lied and that the city awarded the family $12 million but the police acted completely correctly, but I could be wrong. I don't know for sure and neither do you.

True neither know. The AG and grand jury are the experts on the evidence and they charged what they charged.

Its obviously plausible when michael brown was a lie too. Thats the point.

A settlement does seem somewhat strange here but ive settled cases where my client was honestly 1000% in the right civilly and they just couldnt handle the public exposure so they settled with the extortionist ha

 

[hoopsaustin]

Did the city of Louisville which awarded her family $12 million know the facts? Seems contradictory to me, but who knows?

Idk. Maybe, maybe not.

 

[hoopsaustin]

The electoral college is an undemocratic relic of an age when the aristocracy didn't trust the people to decide an election. It's time to chuck it in the dustbin of history.

We're not a democracy. You're free to move to a country that is

 

[hoopsaustin]

None of that is 1. Illegal 2. to retain executive power.

Didnt say it was illegal so.... point?