Current Events Thread

[BCSooners]

It's seems that sharing antisemitic messages isn't nearly as frowned upon as respectfully disagreeing with militant marxist movements or the cancel culture.

He’s getting trashed on, rightfully so, just not by near as many players.

 

[BCSooners]

Fellow athletes have been very slow on the trigger thus far. Half the league had commented at this point when Brees mentioned that players should respect the flag. I'll come back and eat my hat if he's not on an NFL roster this season.

Definitely the players aren’t as harsh on him, but there are far more black people in the league than Jewish people. Pundits & talk shows are all over him.

 

[sheepdogs1]

It's seems that sharing antisemitic messages isn't nearly as frowned upon as respectfully disagreeing with militant marxist movements or the cancel culture.

The attacks on Hasidics in New York has been on the increase and it seems to be a distraction to most.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Fellow athletes have been very slow on the trigger thus far. Half the league had commented at this point when Brees mentioned that players should respect the flag. I'll come back and eat my hat if he's not on an NFL roster this season.

For some, unfortunately so, there is the perspective of it's about getting even so it "can"be looked about as being different. If you bully me is it so wrong for me to bully you in return.

 

[Eielson]

Definitely the players aren’t as harsh on him, but there are far more black people in the league than Jewish people. Pundits & talk shows are all over him.

The message I've been hearing over and over is that "if you're not anti-racist, you're racist." If AA athletes don't condemn Jackson, I guess that makes them racist? Is it okay to sit on the sidelines if it's not your race involved?

 

[thebigabd]

His favorability is at 38%. He's completely bungling the pandemic response and the economy is in the tank. Sure, he can win, but I would take that bet in a heartbeat.

On top of that:

• They've built like 25 miles of new border wall. So that stunt has gone nowhere.
• He has no plan for healthcare.
• He's out here defending the confederacy in the midst of racial uprisings.
• He's pretty much ignoring Covid-19 at this point.
• The turnover in his administration is horrible
• He's getting hammered with tell-all books and a conservative revolt (Lincoln Project, Republicans for Biden, etc)
• About 35% of the country approves of the tax bill, his signature legislative accomplishment
• He got impeached
• He has a bad relationship with most of our allies
• Something like 23% of American's believe what Trump says about Covid
• He had total foreign policy failures with North Korea, Syria, Iraq, Kurds, and Iran. It will come up again that he put Americans in harms way to kill an Iranian General, then they did heavy damage to our base with no response. The Iraqis are literally kicking us out. He kicked our allies (Kurds) aside in a deal with Erdogan, only to reverse course when public pressure got to him... The North Korean thing went nowhere, except he was a prop for North Korean media.

He doesn't even have anything to run on. When he was asked that question, he literally couldn't answer it.

When you lay everything out, this has been a total failure.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

The final polling aggregate had him at roughly a 30% chance of winning. That's about the same odds as flopping a pair in no limit hold 'em.

So you're misreading them as "wrong." He had a better chance of winning than Villanova had of beating Georgetown in the national championship game and we know how that turned out.

Well then I'll add the media to my polls statement

 

[BCSooners]

The message I've been hearing over and over is that "if you're not anti-racist, you're racist." If AA athletes don't condemn Jackson, I guess that makes them racist? Is it okay to sit on the sidelines if it's not your race involved?

I agree with your statement.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

No he's not. He's done. He has no chance.

Do we need to find a clip of all the people saying this exact same thing 4 years ago?

 

[SoonerBounce13]

On top of that:

• They've built like 25 miles of new border wall. So that stunt has gone nowhere.
• He has no plan for healthcare.
• He's out here defending the confederacy in the midst of racial uprisings.
• He's pretty much ignoring Covid-19 at this point.
• The turnover in his administration is horrible
• He's getting hammered with tell-all books and a conservative revolt (Lincoln Project, Republicans for Biden, etc)
• About 35% of the country approves of the tax bill, his signature legislative accomplishment
• He got impeached
• He has a bad relationship with most of our allies
• Something like 23% of American's believe what Trump says about Covid
• He had total foreign policy failures with North Korea, Syria, Iraq, Kurds, and Iran. It will come up again that he put Americans in harms way to kill an Iranian General, then they did heavy damage to our base with no response. The Iraqis are literally kicking us out. He kicked our allies (Kurds) aside in a deal with Erdogan, only to reverse course when public pressure got to him... The North Korean thing went nowhere, except he was a prop for North Korean media.

He doesn't even have anything to run on. When he was asked that question, he literally couldn't answer it.

When you lay everything out, this has been a total failure.

well that is like your opinion man.
The funny thing is, he has still accomplished way more than most presidents have...whether you agree with it or not. And all while constantly having to worry about all the Russia and court BS. It is honestly surprising he has accomplished anything.

Also, his approval rating may be low. His response may not be looked favorably upon.

But that doesn't mean people still won't prefer him to Biden.
I don't think the two camps have changed much at all honestly.

I don't know who will win. But I'm not going to be silly and say there is no way he won't win or no way Biden won't win. That is just nonsense and asking for criticism.

I do hope that whether he wins or not, it isn't close enough to bother with recounts,etc

 

[WTSooner]

When you lay everything out, this has been a total failure.

lmao

Without COVID, he wins going away. Period.

 

[AdaSooner]

lmao

Without COVID, he wins going away. Period.

No doubt about it! And, he still might win.

The Sunny Brook U professor who predicted Trump’s 2016 win gives him an 87% chance of pulling it off again. The professor’s model has been used to correctly predict 24 of the last 26 presidential elections.

 

[steverocks35]

No doubt about it! And, he still might win.

The Sunny Brook U professor who predicted Trump’s 2016 win gives him an 87% chance of pulling it off again. The professor’s model has been used to correctly predict 24 of the last 26 presidential elections.

Do you have a link to this? I would love to see his rationale.

 

[steverocks35]

I found it. He hasn’t updated it since May. Back then Trump’s approval was 48%. Now it’s 38%. He’s using something he calls the “primary model,” but the primaries have been over for months so I don’t really know how that works.

http://primarymodel.com

 

[AdaSooner]

The model he uses means very little to me. All I know is, he’s right a lot more than he’s wrong.

I didn’t know much about the professor either, but I remember his prediction in 2016 when Trump pulled off the upset over a confident Hillary that landed several well known Hollywood celebs and main stream news broadcasters on suicide watch.

If he’s right, do you mind keeping an eye on my friend ABD on election night?

 

[sheepdogs1]

The model he uses means very little to me. All I know is, he’s right a lot more than he’s wrong.

I didn’t know much about the professor either, but I remember his prediction in 2016 when Trump pulled off the upset over a confident Hillary that landed several well known Hollywood celebs and main stream news broadcasters on suicide watch.

If he’s right, do you mind keeping an eye on my friend ABD on election night?

His moniker would be DOA! I'll pay for the flowers and the firewood for cremation.

 

[coolm]

today Tucker Carlson insists that "masks and social distancing have no basis in science". I think most of the conservatives here are intelligent enough to understand this is completely asanine.

However, IF there are any of you trump humpers who believe this then please speak up so that we may show you the absolute ignorance of this view. I'll even give you the equations so you can do the math yourself.

 

[steverocks35]

The model he uses means very little to me. All I know is, he’s right a lot more than he’s wrong.

I didn’t know much about the professor either, but I remember his prediction in 2016 when Trump pulled off the upset over a confident Hillary that landed several well known Hollywood celebs and main stream news broadcasters on suicide watch.

If he’s right, do you mind keeping an eye on my friend ABD on election night?

Sure, but I’ll be on the ledge with him lol

 

[steverocks35]

today Tucker Carlson insists that "masks and social distancing have no basis in science".

IF there are any of you trump humpers who believe this then please speak up so that we may show you the absolute ignorance of this view. I'll even give you the equations so you can do the math yourself.

Why is he trying to kill his audience? Makes zero sense

 

[thebigabd]

lmao

Without COVID, he wins going away. Period.

First, that isn't true.

Second, that's the thing about being President.... you don't often get to govern without some kind of crisis, and you either handle it well or you don't. Bush had Gulf War, Bush II had 9/11 (and served two terms), Obama had the 2008 recession (and served two terms), FDR had the great recession and WWII, etc.

FDR was in the middle of the great recession (it was actually in its 8th year) and won the electoral college 523-8. And that was the worst economic crisis in our history. He carried 46 states. Do you know why? Because he was an amazing leader and an amazing President.

Look, lets lay out facts.

• The wall has been a total failure. Can anyone really say it hasn't been?
• Mexico didn't pay for the wall.... Can anyone really say they did?
• Nobody likes the tax bill except super wealthy people
• 39% of the country approves of his handling of Covid-19
• He is inciting a race/culture war
• 35% of the country is happy with the tax bill, again, his key legislation
• He's been impeached
• He promised to eliminate the federal debt, he made it worse, WAY WORSE
• He promised to balance the federal budget, nowhere close to that
• He promised to bring a new/better Iran deal... hasn't done it
• He promised to get out of war and bring the troops home. Hasn't done it
• He misled and lied on Covid-19, and then said he takes no responsibility

He's definitely not wrong all the time... But outside of his bluster, this has been a very non-productive presidency.

You say he has accomplished a lot. What has he accomplished that is popular with Americans? Getting a better NAFTA deal is a good thing. Yelling at NATO countries to pay more is a good thing. Doesn't mean they will, but he yelled at them. He cancelled the Paris Deal. He replaced two Supreme Court justices, but that was because one retired and Mitch McConnell stole the other. Not like Trump had to do much to replace a judge.

The rest is small ball. It's been very unproductive from a policy perspective.

I don't think he would have won without Covid... It would have been closer maybe, but he would have lost. At this point he only has a hard-core base. He only has the "if I shot someone on 5th avenue" crowd. People who won't abandon him NO MATTER WHAT. People are tired of him. Oklahoma is a cult state, so it's hard to tell if you live here, but a lot of the country is tired of him. Oklahoma is to Trumpers and super conservatives what Utah is to mormons, so again, its an echo chamber here if you are a conservative. He started a trade war that he can't win. He claims he's making billions in tariffs, but he just has to turn around and give it to farmers he screwed over. Getting the tariff money isn't helping A SINGLE AMERICAN. It's nothing. He just gives it to farmers to cover their losses as a result of the trade war.

If he did things well, and was popular, he would win. But he doesn't, and he isn't, so he wont. It's that simple.