Darrell Williams charged with rape

[colston15]

The case against Williams seems a little flimsy.

It sounds nastier and more criminal to charge "rape by instrumentation" than "unconsensual diddling." Apparently "stealing third base" can get you ten years. Even at a party where there were probably a half dozen couples feeling each other up.

If there were a few witnesses and lots of protesting or loud screaming it wouldn't have taken two months to file charges. If Williams held his hand over her mouth to prevent screaming, then it's closer to rape. If not, the case becomes shaky.

It may be a case of "stealing third base" by a much, much larger than expected finger. Williams will be kicked off the team. He may be a serial assaulter but I doubt they make this case stick.

:facepalm

 

[Tony]

:facepalm

To say the least.

 

[SilliSooner]

To say the least.

Tony, how are you doing? Long time no speak.

 

[DenverSooner]

The case against Williams seems a little flimsy.

It sounds nastier and more criminal to charge "rape by instrumentation" than "unconsensual diddling." Apparently "stealing third base" can get you ten years. Even at a party where there were probably a half dozen couples feeling each other up.

If there were a few witnesses and lots of protesting or loud screaming it wouldn't have taken two months to file charges. If Williams held his hand over her mouth to prevent screaming, then it's closer to rape. If not, the case becomes shaky.

It may be a case of "stealing third base" by a much, much larger than expected finger. Williams will be kicked off the team. He may be a serial assaulter but I doubt they make this case stick.

You actually wrote this and then clicked a button to post it. That is pretty hard to believe. What if it was your mother, sister, daughter, girlfriend, wife or backside that is was "stolen" at a party?

Would you say this nonsense to your mother?

 

[waynepayne]

:facepalm

Wow, agreed.

 

[skyvue]

I've not read a post as ill-considered and wrong-headed as SilliSooner's in a long, long time.

 

[jmizzy4ou]

I've not read a post as ill-considered and wrong-headed as SilliSooner's in a long, long time.

No doubt....

As a Child Welfare Investigator, I get to work daily with young people who were " just fondled", or " touched innocently" by a foster parent, biological family member, sgnificant other, or sibling. The trauma that even an unwanted grope or rub causes lasts many of these kids and teens a lifetime. There is nothing minimal about taking advantage of someone sexually, no matter how some might try to spin it, or make it humorous.

I see alot of damaged teens/young adults, and many of them were the victims of a sex crime that someone tried to make them believe was just a consensual act that got a little carried away.

Maybe being at a party, drinking, and willingly being in the presence of a perp makes a victim guilty of bad decisions, but it still doesn't or never should justify, minimize, or excuse a person to sexually assault another.....

If this guy is guilty, then he should be held to the highest level of accountability by our justice system, as should all perpetrators of sex crimes.

 

[MsProudSooner]

So Silli, have you read the official charges? If so, I guess I can assume that it's OK with you if that happens to your sister or daughter?

The sad thing is that after reading the specific charges, I think that has happened to a lot of women. They either didn't know it was a chargeable offense or didn't have the courage to go forward with pressing charges.

 

[quick release]

i'm with coolm. you guys are turning this into a witch hunt. the only fact i can see is that not one of you knows what happened. innocent until proven guilty still stands in my eyes.

 

[Sooner_In_MI]

i'm with coolm. you guys are turning this into a witch hunt. the only fact i can see is that not one of you knows what happened. innocent until proven guilty still stands in my eyes.

Well, based on your username, you may actually be Darrell Williams, so...

 

[quick release]

clever

 

[DenverSooner]

i'm with coolm. you guys are turning this into a witch hunt. the only fact i can see is that not one of you knows what happened. innocent until proven guilty still stands in my eyes.

Under your theory, he should post pond and play in the next game. He is still innocent until proven guilty regardless of whether charges are filed.

 

[quick release]

i'm not commenting on whether he should be playing or not. a lot of folks on here are talking about he is guilty for sure and should be treated as such. i'm just saying its not for sure he committed the crime.

 

[SilliSooner]

You actually wrote this and then clicked a button to post it. That is pretty hard to believe. What if it was your mother, sister, daughter, girlfriend, wife or backside that is was "stolen" at a party?

Would you say this nonsense to your mother?

I did question about clicking this, probably shouldn't have.

But at the same time I watched the Duke Lacrosse players get absolutely roasted, vilified, sneered at in papers and on message boards prior to all the facts coming out.

One thing about the Duke lacrosse case that made it a touch ugly. There was some racism involved: white players, black victim.

The Oklahoman wrote the story correctly. They reported it as the case was filed: sexual battery and rape by instrumentation.

I did read the charges and all I'm saying is the term "rape by instrumentation" is misleading.

He may have committed battery, he's charged with it. And certainly he's charged with sexual assault. And he may have committed rape. If convicted, all charges warrant doing time.

But when they say "rape by an inanimate object" and then follow it with "inanimate object being his finger" it doesn't seem right, at least the term inanimate. "Inanimate" is not a living thing. The finger is a living thing. I understand that is the way the law is written in penal code 21-1111.1 but it's misleading and it's wrong.

If he did it, what he did was "rape." If he used any part of his body, it's rape. Not "rape by instrumentation" just plain rape.

I apologize for interjecting baseball petting terms into the discussion or for asserting the victim should loudly object when first being fondled. That was insensitive.

We'll see how this turns out.