ESPN 30/30 "The Fab Five" Trailer
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I would think this will be one of the most popular ones. Really excited about it.
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I was a HUGE fan of the Fab Five back in the day wish they would have won the title.
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At the press conference before the national title game (vs. Duke) their freshman year, a reporter asked the Fab Five what they were doing a year prior (when Duke played UNLV for the national title).
Down the line they went:
Juwan Howard: "I was at home in Chicago, rooting for UNLV"
Ray Jackson: "I was at home in Texas, rooting for UNLV"
Chris Webber: "I was in my living room, rooting for UNLV"
Jalen Rose: "I was at home in Detroit, rooting for UNLV"
JImmy King: "I was at my friends house, rooting for UNLV"
They were awesome.
Five freshman starting on a team in the finals! Unbelievable if you really think about it
Down the line they went:
Juwan Howard: "I was at home in Chicago, rooting for UNLV"
Ray Jackson: "I was at home in Texas, rooting for UNLV"
Chris Webber: "I was in my living room, rooting for UNLV"
Jalen Rose: "I was at home in Detroit, rooting for UNLV"
JImmy King: "I was at my friends house, rooting for UNLV"
They were awesome.
Five freshman starting on a team in the finals! Unbelievable if you really think about it
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What do I think of when i remember "the Fab Five"?
1) One of them couldn't remember that they were out of timeouts.
2) Michigan went on probation.
1) One of them couldn't remember that they were out of timeouts.
2) Michigan went on probation.
didn't Duke beat them pretty good in the final that year?
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Yep.
I went back and read that passage again last night, and my memory was faulty. The Duke/UNLV game was in the semi's, not the finals.
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Here's a glowing review:
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http://www.freep.com/article/201103...cumentary-brutally-honest-stunningly-thorough
Fab Five documentary brutally honest, stunningly thorough
The Fab Five's Michigan basketball legacy has been tainted in the years since they left school, often told in bits and pieces, odd-fitting sections here and there.
Numerous attempts have been made to tell the complete story. Free Press columnist Mitch Albom wrote a best-selling Fab Five book, Fox Sports made a "Beyond the Glory" review show, and many others tried to gather the entire puzzle of these college basketball revolutionaries.
But, as Jalen Rose promised, the best way to do it -- the most complete way -- was from the inside.
"Those were the stories," Rose said in an interview with the Free Press last week after a rough cut of ESPN's "The Fab Five" was made available to the Free Press. "This is the Bible."
This all-inclusive documentary -- with a 100-minute running time scheduled to debut at 9 p.m. March 13 -- is as complete a telling as anyone has done.
"When we talked to Jalen, we were very clear we wanted to tell the story, and it had to be warts and all," ESPN Films executive producer Connor Schell said. "We had the conversation with Jalen, and they were 100% on board. He said, 'This is our story, and I'm not going to hold back.' In the end, he very much delivered."
Well, more like 80% on board.
Despite Chris Webber being the central figure of the group -- the best player, the one who broke up the five by leaving after two years for the NBA, the reason the group's banners were taken down in Crisler Arena because of his dealings with banned booster Ed Martin -- he refused to participate in the filming.
The four other members, particularly Rose, along with ESPN, tried to get Webber to sit for an interview and even thought they had him at one point. They said he could talk about whatever he wanted and skip whatever he didn't, but Webber still declined.
"It was more than one swing at him (participating), it was the whole Detroit Tigers' up-and-down-the-lineup worth of swings," Rose said.
Webber's absence is a major dent for the film, but the documentary lets others tell his story.
The film is a stunningly thorough history of the era. Told in six chapters, it covers more ground than one would expect.
From Juwan Howard discussing his grandmother's death the day he signed his letter of intent, to Ray Jackson talking about being "the fifth wheel" and considering a transfer, to Jimmy King's brutal honesty about his disdain for Christian Laettner -- one part in which the soundtrack is certainly not for family ears, to Rose talking about the loitering ticket he got in the Detroit "crack house," almost everything is addressed.
Rose is a maestro throughout the film -- "I know what a dope house is, I know what a crack house is," in saying that was nothing of the kind when he got the ticket -- and helps to tie the scenes together.
Besides Webber, nearly all of the principal and peripheral figures take part (except guard Michael Talley, who is spotlighted and derided in the movie for clapping during Webber's fateful time-out that cost U-M the 1993 title game).
The documentary features a tour de force of information from coaches Steve Fisher, Brian Dutcher and Perry Watson (all who rarely, if ever, do interviews about Michigan), to the scorned upperclassmen Eric Riley, James Voskuil and Rob Pelinka, Dugan Fife, then-Free Press beat writer Greg Stoda and the Detroit News' Bryan Burwell, and even rappers Ice Cube and Chuck D reflecting on the style elements (black socks, baggy shorts) the players brought to the rap world and vice versa. (Albom also is interviewed and appears extensively throughout the film.)
The Ed Martin saga may get more time than necessary. Webber was the only member of the five implicated in the NCAA violations -- though in another moment of candor, Rose said he took money from Martin, but not large sums -- but the other players suffered the consequences, from the banners shut away in the Bentley Historical Library to the lack of their presence anywhere in Michigan basketball's modern scene. (In the interest of fairness, even Martin's son Carlton provides an enlightening interview, even answering some of Webber's public comments about his father.)
These issues are slammed home by King and Jackson, who didn't have NBA careers, don't have NBA money, yet feel they are still being punished.
And that's where current U-M athletic director Dave Brandon enters, pleading for a Webber apology to help the healing process but making no concessions to reraising the banners once Webber's association ban is lifted in 2013.
"Warts and all" wasn't restricted to the players' transgressions.
The insanely racist letters sent to the school and players at that time are displayed fully -- complete with alums who had the gall to sign their name and graduation year to their bigotry. (Even Rose, who claims nothing fazes him, admitted he was stunned to see that people had actually signed them.)
There are light moments as well -- Rose loves the scene where Howard truly believes he and his teammates will appear on "The Cosby Show," part of a Fisher motivational ploy that became a letdown.
As one who has intimately followed the twists and turns of the saga, I expected to be let down. But "The Fab Five" is riveting, brutal in its honesty, realistic in its language and stunning in its archival footage. The coaches' home movies from the team's Europe trip in May 1992 are classic, part of the impressive video gathered for the telling.
"My favorite part? The whole ABC Wide World of Sports thing, the thrill of victory and agony of defeat, it was all of that for me," Rose said. "The favorite part for me was to take a deep breath and appreciate the situation for all it was, good bad or indifferent. To tell the story."
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http://www.freep.com/article/201103...cumentary-brutally-honest-stunningly-thorough
Fab Five documentary brutally honest, stunningly thorough
The Fab Five's Michigan basketball legacy has been tainted in the years since they left school, often told in bits and pieces, odd-fitting sections here and there.
Numerous attempts have been made to tell the complete story. Free Press columnist Mitch Albom wrote a best-selling Fab Five book, Fox Sports made a "Beyond the Glory" review show, and many others tried to gather the entire puzzle of these college basketball revolutionaries.
But, as Jalen Rose promised, the best way to do it -- the most complete way -- was from the inside.
"Those were the stories," Rose said in an interview with the Free Press last week after a rough cut of ESPN's "The Fab Five" was made available to the Free Press. "This is the Bible."
This all-inclusive documentary -- with a 100-minute running time scheduled to debut at 9 p.m. March 13 -- is as complete a telling as anyone has done.
"When we talked to Jalen, we were very clear we wanted to tell the story, and it had to be warts and all," ESPN Films executive producer Connor Schell said. "We had the conversation with Jalen, and they were 100% on board. He said, 'This is our story, and I'm not going to hold back.' In the end, he very much delivered."
Well, more like 80% on board.
Despite Chris Webber being the central figure of the group -- the best player, the one who broke up the five by leaving after two years for the NBA, the reason the group's banners were taken down in Crisler Arena because of his dealings with banned booster Ed Martin -- he refused to participate in the filming.
The four other members, particularly Rose, along with ESPN, tried to get Webber to sit for an interview and even thought they had him at one point. They said he could talk about whatever he wanted and skip whatever he didn't, but Webber still declined.
"It was more than one swing at him (participating), it was the whole Detroit Tigers' up-and-down-the-lineup worth of swings," Rose said.
Webber's absence is a major dent for the film, but the documentary lets others tell his story.
The film is a stunningly thorough history of the era. Told in six chapters, it covers more ground than one would expect.
From Juwan Howard discussing his grandmother's death the day he signed his letter of intent, to Ray Jackson talking about being "the fifth wheel" and considering a transfer, to Jimmy King's brutal honesty about his disdain for Christian Laettner -- one part in which the soundtrack is certainly not for family ears, to Rose talking about the loitering ticket he got in the Detroit "crack house," almost everything is addressed.
Rose is a maestro throughout the film -- "I know what a dope house is, I know what a crack house is," in saying that was nothing of the kind when he got the ticket -- and helps to tie the scenes together.
Besides Webber, nearly all of the principal and peripheral figures take part (except guard Michael Talley, who is spotlighted and derided in the movie for clapping during Webber's fateful time-out that cost U-M the 1993 title game).
The documentary features a tour de force of information from coaches Steve Fisher, Brian Dutcher and Perry Watson (all who rarely, if ever, do interviews about Michigan), to the scorned upperclassmen Eric Riley, James Voskuil and Rob Pelinka, Dugan Fife, then-Free Press beat writer Greg Stoda and the Detroit News' Bryan Burwell, and even rappers Ice Cube and Chuck D reflecting on the style elements (black socks, baggy shorts) the players brought to the rap world and vice versa. (Albom also is interviewed and appears extensively throughout the film.)
The Ed Martin saga may get more time than necessary. Webber was the only member of the five implicated in the NCAA violations -- though in another moment of candor, Rose said he took money from Martin, but not large sums -- but the other players suffered the consequences, from the banners shut away in the Bentley Historical Library to the lack of their presence anywhere in Michigan basketball's modern scene. (In the interest of fairness, even Martin's son Carlton provides an enlightening interview, even answering some of Webber's public comments about his father.)
These issues are slammed home by King and Jackson, who didn't have NBA careers, don't have NBA money, yet feel they are still being punished.
And that's where current U-M athletic director Dave Brandon enters, pleading for a Webber apology to help the healing process but making no concessions to reraising the banners once Webber's association ban is lifted in 2013.
"Warts and all" wasn't restricted to the players' transgressions.
The insanely racist letters sent to the school and players at that time are displayed fully -- complete with alums who had the gall to sign their name and graduation year to their bigotry. (Even Rose, who claims nothing fazes him, admitted he was stunned to see that people had actually signed them.)
There are light moments as well -- Rose loves the scene where Howard truly believes he and his teammates will appear on "The Cosby Show," part of a Fisher motivational ploy that became a letdown.
As one who has intimately followed the twists and turns of the saga, I expected to be let down. But "The Fab Five" is riveting, brutal in its honesty, realistic in its language and stunning in its archival footage. The coaches' home movies from the team's Europe trip in May 1992 are classic, part of the impressive video gathered for the telling.
"My favorite part? The whole ABC Wide World of Sports thing, the thrill of victory and agony of defeat, it was all of that for me," Rose said. "The favorite part for me was to take a deep breath and appreciate the situation for all it was, good bad or indifferent. To tell the story."
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That's correct, Tony. 1991 in Indianapolis. I was in Ardmore, Oklahoma, and I too was rooting for UNLV.
The shellacking in the finals was in 1990 in Denver. Thin mountain air, the Amoeba defense, and that relentless offensive attack.
The shellacking in the finals was in 1990 in Denver. Thin mountain air, the Amoeba defense, and that relentless offensive attack.
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You are an encylopedia. I am a sports nut but I have never met anyone who can pull dates like that. ESPN should hire you to replace the Schwab. "Stump the Sooner04."
I too was rooting for UNLV. Greg Anthony was my hero.
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HBO is going to have a documentary about UNLV airing in mid March: http://www.hbo.com/?cmpid=s1b#/sports/runnin-rebels-of-unlv
As far as Michigan, they did have a huge impact on college basketball and pop culture. I was at the 1993 Final Four; what a great championship game and certainly one of the most memorable finishes ever.
As far as Michigan, they did have a huge impact on college basketball and pop culture. I was at the 1993 Final Four; what a great championship game and certainly one of the most memorable finishes ever.
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