Football question

[WTSooner]

Don't like QBR, the same holds true for QB Rating.

Take the first 4 games and the last one against Bama, average those, and Mateer is sitting around 4-6 in the SEC. Right by Simpson and Reed, and ahead of Manning.

The way some of you talk about Mateer, I'd hate to see what you'd say about a truly bad QB like Arnold.

 

[Eielson]

It was making winning plays and rushing for 74 yards and 2 TDs vs Michigan

All I'm saying is his throwing stats, even before injury, left a lot to be desired. He wasn't in the heisman race because of his throwing stats. It was because we beat 2 top 25 teams at the time

52 carries for 176 yards. Those are his rushing numbers for the 4 games in question. A lot of key runs that helped, but that's not earth-shattering, and even if it was, I don't see why it matters if we got 12 yards on a pass play vs run. It's still 12 yards.

There are so many things that make QBR a better statistics than a simple stat from 1973 like passer effiency, with rushing being only one of them, which is relatively small in this case. Though passer efficiency also clearly went down after injury, so take your pick.

 

[SoonerDutch]

I can see some pushback on QBR if looking specifically at ”passing” but again relying on completion % or TD/INT ratios is just as bad IMO since it’s unadjusted for context/competition. But again, criticizing a more encompassing stat as meaningless to the discussion about QB play because it’s broad seems like a fool’s errand.

If people want to trash Mateer’s mechanics, I mean go ahead (they clearly can be improved and are not textbook) although I think the consensus from the media and scouts is higher than “bad.” He’s also undeniably on the short-end of what one would want as a QB.

But again, still think he’s the best option OU had at QB given the market and their overall roster needs (which is the most important question IMO).

 

[Eielson]

I can see some pushback on QBR if looking specifically at ”passing”

Only if one perceives Mateer to have achieved elite results running. Which isn't something I've heard from the anti-QBR crowd.

 

[bearcreekfan]

Heinecke case going on today in front of Judge Balkman. BV, Heinecke's HS coach (Tappana), OU Director of Compliance (Newville), Nagy and Heinecke took the stand before lunch.

Heinecke’s counsel said this case boils down to one thing — time. Should 15 minutes of lacrosse cost Heinecke one year of football?

 

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[Skeeter1]

Boom!!

 

[WichitaSooner]

Didn't follow the hearing so not going to weigh in on the likely outcome, but think it's silly for any non-lawyer (or even attorneys who practice in other areas) to act as if they fully know the law and can predict the outcome. Unless John Hoover has a second career I am unaware of, he probably shouldn't act like an authority on this. (And I know Owen may well win, just think his tweet makes about as much sense as if he tweeted out a medical diagnoses because he watched an episode of The Pitt.)

 

[bearcreekfan]

Didn't follow the hearing so not going to weigh in on the likely outcome, but think it's silly for any non-lawyer (or even attorneys who practice in other areas) to act as if they fully know the law and can predict the outcome. Unless John Hoover has a second career I am unaware of, he probably shouldn't act like an authority on this. (And I know Owen may well win, just think his tweet makes about as much sense as if he tweeted out a medical diagnoses because he watched an episode of The Pitt.)

Yeah, it was a little premature considering Tappana was only the second person to take the stand.

 

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[WTSooner]

The main point should have been the other athlete that got an extra year with VERY similar circumstances, in the last few months, where the NCAA hid that from OU.

 

[bearcreekfan]

The main point should have been the other athlete that got an extra year with VERY similar circumstances, in the last few months, where the NCAA hid that from OU.

It was also part of it, the third paragraph in his tweet.

And, Cooper also said she found it "interesting" that the NCAA had no one present to discuss the decision to not upload the Lyde case into the reference system.

 

[bearcreekfan]

And...

 

[BoulderSooner]

Cooper is someone i would want speaking on my behalf

 

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[mict085]

Yeah baby!!! Owen is back for one more year!!!

 

[BoulderSooner]

big for the LB room ..

 

[Boom Soon]

Great news for the team!!