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I'm not sure sategna would have been drafted really high or anything anyway. If he throws up another nice year he could be like a 2nd rounder maybe and he hedges his bets in the interim vby getting a sure thing deal here.

Sategna definitely has room to improve his draft stock, but he undoubtedly would have been drafted, and had he entered the portal, he would have drawn interest from every team in the country.

My main point is that it's basically free agency with one year contracts in college football now, so it's silly to only look at portal additions and not celebrate retention. Texas added some excellent skill position players, but they also basically lost their entire RB room and two of their top three WRs.

I'm not a mateer guy. I think we blew it bringing him back. Well see. He prolly will have a nice game here and there (Trevor knight vs Bama), but I don't think he has the tools, technique, and processing to be what we need him to be. Trevor knight left OU and was the exact same QB at a&m too.. think mateer will be the same as his last year too. Way too many INTs

We've beaten this to death, so I'm not going belabor it too much more. He was good enough to make the CFP this year, and if not for bizarre ST blunders, we likely win our first round game for the first time in program history. I don't think he's a superstar, but he was also playing through injury and had a mediocre at best supporting cast, which improved at every position group. Potentially a dramatic improvement with some position groups.
 
Sategna definitely has room to improve his draft stock, but he undoubtedly would have been drafted, and had he entered the portal, he would have drawn interest from every team in the country.

My main point is that it's basically free agency with one year contracts in college football now, so it's silly to only look at portal additions and not celebrate retention. Texas added some excellent skill position players, but they also basically lost their entire RB room and two of their top three WRs.



We've beaten this to death, so I'm not going belabor it too much more. He was good enough to make the CFP this year, and if not for bizarre ST blunders, we likely win our first round game for the first time in program history. I don't think he's a superstar, but he was also playing through injury and had a mediocre at best supporting cast, which improved at every position group. Potentially a dramatic improvement with some position groups.
Was Ott good enough to make the playoff this year? He was on the roster, too, so does he get credit for being good? Because that’s what you’re doing with Mateer … arguing that because the team made the playoff, it means Mateer was good enough. We made the playoff in spite of him. We overcame his awful three-pick game against LSU. He completed under half his passes against Mizzou. He was essentially nothing more than a game manager against Bama and Tennessee, where they more or less game planned around him and just hoped he didn’t make critical mistakes. Those were the four games that got us to the playoff. He was anywhere from terrible to (at best) mediocre in all of them.

And we haven’t upgraded every position. We have two running backs returning and replaced Tatum and Ott and Tatum with a G5 guy who isn’t nearly as talented.
 
Was Ott good enough to make the playoff this year? He was on the roster, too, so does he get credit for being good? Because that’s what you’re doing with Mateer … arguing that because the team made the playoff, it means Mateer was good enough. We made the playoff in spite of him. We overcame his awful three-pick game against LSU. He completed under half his passes against Mizzou. He was essentially nothing more than a game manager against Bama and Tennessee, where they more or less game planned around him and just hoped he didn’t make critical mistakes. Those were the four games that got us to the playoff. He was anywhere from terrible to (at best) mediocre in all of them.

And we haven’t upgraded every position. We have two running backs returning and replaced Tatum and Ott and Tatum with a G5 guy who isn’t nearly as talented.
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Was Ott good enough to make the playoff this year?

Hahahahahahahaha!

Yes! The backup RB that barely saw the field and the starting QB contributed the same! Let's talk about if our third string longsnapper was good enough next!

Because that’s what you’re doing with Mateer … arguing that because the team made the playoff, it means Mateer was good enough.

What I said is that Mateer is capable of being QB1 on a playoff team...because...he was. Pretty simple.

And Ott is capable of being RB5 that never sees the field. Everybody on this message board could fill that role as well.
 
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That's exactly his argument: that the team's success means Mateer was "good enough." Not every player on the roster should be labeled "good enough" simply because the team had enough success to make the playoff. We won due to defense and special teams. No one could possibly make a compelling argument otherwise. When you win in spite of a certain player or position group, you should look to improve.
 
That's exactly his argument: that the team's success means Mateer was "good enough."

Tell me more about how the QB1 of a playoff team will never be good enough to be QB1 on a team that makes the playoffs.

You really fumbled that Ott comparison, so I'll let you try again, but be better.
 
Tell me more about how the QB1 of a playoff team will never be good enough to be QB1 on a team that makes the playoffs.

Many of you have a tendency to dissect or over-analyze the posts of other posters. Let's make one thing clear. Mateer wasn't good enough to WIN in the playoffs, at least not this year - and that needs to be our goal next season. The majority are fine with him going into next season as the starter...but I hope we've upgraded the backup QB position.
 
Many of you have a tendency to dissect or over-analyze the posts of other posters. Let's make one thing clear. Mateer wasn't good enough to WIN in the playoffs, at least not this year - and that needs to be our goal next season. The majority are fine with him going into next season as the starter...but I hope we've upgraded the backup QB position.

i'm not fine with him as our starter next year. i don't expect him to improve enough.
hope i'm wrong.
 
Really?

I guess I could see it is heineke comes back
Sullivan can play inside or outside. BV likes to have versatility at cheetah and it’s possible Sullivan and powers man cheetah depending on situation. I could see Sullivan playing both inside and outside depending on situational needs.
 
Many of you have a tendency to dissect or over-analyze the posts of other posters. Let's make one thing clear. Mateer wasn't good enough to WIN in the playoffs, at least not this year - and that needs to be our goal next season. The majority are fine with him going into next season as the starter...but I hope we've upgraded the backup QB position.
You can’t blame the loss solely on mateer. We had no run game and two injured RBs. No TEs and one viable WR. Defense wore down a bit and ST cost us 17 points.

We have added playmakers at WR and possibly TE. OL will be improved and TE that can block will help out tremendously. We now have playmakers on offense and there are no excuses for failure.
 
I have minimal optimism he will get another year.
Me too but the Chambliss lawsuit could provide the opening. I’ve heard if Heineke is denied, he too might file a lawsuit. If chambliss wins it could be precedent for Heineke to get his extra year. Or the ncaa could just back down and allow it. That’s if Heineke really wants to play another year and wait it out.
 
Me too but the Chambliss lawsuit could provide the opening. I’ve heard if Heineke is denied, he too might file a lawsuit. If chambliss wins it could be precedent for Heineke to get his extra year. Or the ncaa could just back down and allow it. That’s if Heineke really wants to play another year and wait it out.
The two situations seem to be completely unrelated. Chambliss is seeking an extra year based on a medical issue. The ncaa doesn’t seem to be consistent even in cases that do share commonalities, so I can’t imagine the outcome of his case will have any bearing on a guy seeking an extra year because he played another sport one season.
 
You can’t blame the loss solely on mateer. We had no run game and two injured RBs. No TEs and one viable WR. Defense wore down a bit and ST cost us 17 points.

We have added playmakers at WR and possibly TE. OL will be improved and TE that can block will help out tremendously. We now have playmakers on offense and there are no excuses for failure.

I have no major disagreements with that. Burks wasn't as "great" as we had hoped, but he was hardly a liability at WR. My worry with Mateer is that he was rarely accurate throwing the ball past 10-15 yards. Let's see what next season brings.
 
i'm not fine with him as our starter next year. i don't expect him to improve enough.
hope i'm wrong.

I have my concerns as well. That is why I specifically used the word "majority" which is 51%+. I originally typed "most", then changed it :-). There are definitely a lot of mixed opinions, but I don't know if we have better options going into 2026. If we can at least upgrade the backup QB position, that might push Mateer a bit. We also have to be realistic about how much money a starting QB in the portal will cost. I doubt OU can afford two QBs making in the millions of dollars.
 
I have no major disagreements with that. Burks wasn't as "great" as we had hoped, but he was hardly a liability at WR. My worry with Mateer is that he was rarely accurate throwing the ball past 10-15 yards. Let's see what next season brings.

We played two quality opponents all year where Mateer wasn't in a brace, and Burks went for over 100 yards in both games (UM, Alabama). Nobody suffered more from Mateer's injury than Burks. I'm not sure how anybody that watched the Alabama CFP game came away thinking he wasn't a very good player.
 
We played two quality opponents all year where Mateer wasn't in a brace, and Burks went for over 100 yards in both games (UM, Alabama). Nobody suffered more from Mateer's injury than Burks. I'm not sure how anybody that watched the Alabama CFP game came away thinking he wasn't a very good player.
I would not be surprised if Burks does well in the NFL.
 
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