Fouls

[SoonerNorm]

I took a look at every Big 12 team to see which teams foul the most and here are the results:

All games

1. ISU 367
2. TCU 372
3. OSU 390
4. TT 434
5. WVU 441
6. BU 444
7. KU 450
8. UT 485
9. OU 494
10. KSU 502

Big 12 Games

1. TCU 167
2. BU 190
3. OSU 202
4. WVU 203
5. ISU 211
6. OU 224
7. TT 227
8. KU 231
9. UT 240
10. KSU 242

 

[badger]

Kay Kay isn't getting as many minutes, so there went 4-5 per game for us

 

[O-State2009]

I took this a bit further..
A negative number means the team has fewer Big 12 FOULS PER GAME than their OOC games. Interesting that only OSU, Oklahoma, and TTU are under a 1 fould per game variance. Baylor and ISU are on opposite ends of the spectrum.

Team Variance
BU (3.89)
TCU (1.90)
KSU (1.64)
WVU (1.38)
OU (0.41)
OSU (0.26)
TT 0.10
KU 1.00
UT 1.40
ISU 3.40

Many factors can play into this. SOS, style of play of teams opponents, "garbage time", etc. But I just thought I would put this analysis together for the fun of it. (Sorry about the format)

 

[Sooner Suzie]

The team that jumps out to me in the above stats is TCU. They are 3rd in points allowed for both conference and total games. As they play almost exclusively zone D, I would expect their fouls to be low.

I'm glad that there is a really zone-oriented team like that in the conference, for it will surely help come tourney time.

I don't hold much value in the non-conference games, as some teams play a really weak NC schedule and it tends to pad their stats. But at least at the start of conference play, it's all there is to rely on.

 

[Oliver Hardy]

That's no joke. Sub play for the bigs hasn't been rampant enough since conference to see that number climb either.

If Sharane could just control herself a bit more and the back-up guards too, that number would diminish siginificantly.

 

[SoonerNorm]

The team that jumps out to me in the above stats is TCU. They are 3rd in points allowed for both conference and total games. As they play almost exclusively zone D, I would expect their fouls to be low.

I'm glad that there is a really zone-oriented team like that in the conference, for it will surely help come tourney time.

I don't hold much value in the non-conference games, as some teams play a really weak NC schedule and it tends to pad their stats. But at least at the start of conference play, it's all there is to rely on.

I thought we might see which teams have adjusted best to the new officiating rules and reduced the number of fouls but, looking back, I should have just compared the non-conference games (as opposed to all games) to the conference games. That said, I'm still not sure that would have told us much.

 

[O-State2009]

I thought we might see which teams have adjusted best to the new officiating rules and reduced the number of fouls but, looking back, I should have just compared the non-conference games (as opposed to all games) to the conference games. That said, I'm still not sure that would have told us much.

That is essentially what I have done in my post above. I took only OOC games, then compared it to conference games to get the change in fouls committed. I didn't look at overall foul count.

 

[SoonerNorm]

Sherri just said one of the things that affects some players is the fact fouls are called differently outside from inside. She said outside the defender will readily get called for touch fouls where it is much more physical inside with no fouls being called. A player who plays both outside and inside has trouble adjusting to the the way fouls are being called.

 

[sybarite]

Quite true. Sometimes, I think they will never call an over-the-back foul on rebounding. Then, they'll call one on Sharane. But, it seems to get very few calls. The fouls on Griffin and Williams tend to be reaching out to block shots, although Griffin does get a couple of rebounding fouls. Nearly all of Williams' fouls are reaching.

It is interesting that we have seen charges on Morgan this year. We rarely see them on Sharane, except when we lose---wonder why. But, blocking fouls seem to be treated a lot like perimeter fouls. They get called a lot, except in one game in which Gioya got nailed on a bad call.

Any touching outside the arc seems to be a foul (unless Sims does it). What is surprising is that we have seen Aaryn called for a charge outside the arc.

I think they are calling what they intended to call, tougher outside. But, I don't think they have been exactly consistent about what they call, and, in some cases, it seems to benefit certain teams. The Texas/Baylor game was worse than ours. Texas wins if they don't get charged with 37 fouls.

 

[Mark]

surprise we ain't last also I damn near fell out chair to see Baylor is not first on both list.

 

[Mark]

I bet my life savings that mulkey complain or strip on all 444 call against her team.