Yes.....the piggies flat out stink (they got blown out again today). Iowa is the one team that, if they get their crap together, could sneak into the top 50 by seasons end....but I'm not counting on it.
| Team | AP | Coaches | KenPom | BPI | SOR | SOS | RPI | NET |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| KU | 4 | 4 | 12 | 15 | 4 | 17 | 7 | 10 |
| UH | 5 | 5 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 32 | 3 | 1 |
| BU | 13 | 13 | 16 | 16 | 12 | 19 | 22 | 15 |
| ISU | 14 | 14 | 14 | 8 | 19 | 48 | 38 | 11 |
| BYU | 21 | 19 | 9 | 14 | 25 | 64 | 40 | 7 |
| TT | 23 | 23 | 32 | 32 | 24 | 62 | 37 | 33 |
| TCU | 27 | 28 | 29 | 23 | 27 | 49 | 72 | 36 |
| UT | 32 | 36 | 26 | 21 | 29 | 28 | 52 | 31 |
| OU | 33 | 31 | 25 | 27 | 26 | 45 | 53 | 32 |
| CIN | NR | NR | 30 | 26 | 45 | 50 | 54 | 30 |
| UCF | NR | NR | 69 | 55 | 76 | 60 | 81 | 67 |
| KSU | NR | NR | 75 | 62 | 58 | 39 | 90 | 83 |
| osu | NR | NR | 123 | 125 | 158 | 67 | 196 | 139 |
| WVU | NR | NR | 136 | 138 | 148 | 18 | 164 | 144 |
Right now they are on the same level as us because their noncon schedule was so much better. As the conference play continues, that advantage will fade for them because noncon will make up a smaller percentage of their overcall schedule. In any event, most experts think that as of now, they probably wouldn’t make it. If they don’t pick up a quad one win or two, they’ll likely need to win their tourney to get in.
The team sheets show that their noncon SOS was around 40, and ours was 280-something. As of now, noncon still makes up more than half the overall schedule, so a gap that big is certainly playing a pretty big factor in helping them.
Yes, our conference schedule is far better. Yes, our overall schedule is better. BUT . . . their noncon is why the overall profiles are closer than they would otherwise be. If the two teams had played similar noncons AND we had the massive edge we do in league schedules, we would be ahead of them by a fair amount.
I would think of the NET as a sorting tool, rather than a power ranking. Our NET rating is much less important than our opponent's NET rating. There is somewhat of a direct correlation, but the committee seems more concerned with who you actually play/win in NET....rather than where you are actually rated. It's a bit of circular logic....but it is what it is.
I think you are completely missing the point. We are looking at real data, not hypotheticals. IF OU was undefeated we would be ahead of them by a fair amount
Is this that tough to understand? I mean, the team sheets are available to see. The "real data" is that their noncon was way better than ours, and that is a big reason their profile is in the same ballpark as ours. The OP asked how they could be in the same range as us despite not having quad one wins. There is nothing hypothetical about my point. I could care less about Gonzaga. I don't know why people are so reluctant to accept a factual answer. The fact is that their noncon SOS is a benefit to them. This isn't rocket science.
Thank goodness someone else gets it.
No, the facts are that our SOS overall is a lot better than theirs is right now. SOS is not a valid reason why they are in the same ball park right now. This is completely missing the discussion at hand. The "real data" is that while our non conf was lacking compared to theirs, our conference SOS outranks there by so much that our overall SOS is vastly superior. Your point would only make sense if our overall SOS were very similar. At that point you could say we are in the same NET ball park because our non conf was so weak.
Here is a better visual explanation of NET.....I actually prefer visuals.
Again, I don't care whether you think a factor should matter. The reality is that their noncon is helping their overall schedule strength. Yes, for the 400th time, I understand that our overall SOS is better than theirs based on how much better our league is. Yay us! But it really shouldn't be tough to grasp that their noncon allows them to be closer to us in SOS than they otherwise would be. Add in the fact that they are better than us in some of the metrics, and that's how they can overall be right by us in the overall NET.
lol ok. I give up
theathletic.com
Seems reasonable.the athletic has OU back in the top 25
CJ Moore's Top 25: A true Big 2
Purdue and UConn have established themselves as the best two teams in the country, and it all revolves around their centers.
