How bad would adding TCU, Houston, and SMU hurt the others?

[thebigabd]

Rumor out there today is we may see if either Florida State or Miami is interested in coming west. Guess we are too big to talk to USF those other directional, up-start florida teams?

USF is probably better than Miami and FSU in football right now and they have only had a program since 1997.

But, why would FSU or Miami leave? The ACC just got better by adding prime-time programs.

 

[tycat947]

Rumor out there today is we may see if either Florida State or Miami is interested in coming west. Guess we are too big to talk to USF those other directional, up-start florida teams?

Rumor I heard today was that Michigan and Ohio State were bolting the B1G for the Big 12. Now THAT would be interesting!!!

 

[stoops4pres]

It's not a good thing if we keep losing teams though. There's now rumors saying KU and Missouri are both going together to the SEC. If this happens we'll be down to 7 teams. Everyone else is going for 16 teams the Big 12 is stuck in reverse.

Mizzou is possible, but there is no way KU will get an invite to the SEC. Especially on the presumption that K-State is tied with KU.

 

[stoops4pres]

Boca, it's no secret Mizzou went through three pretty rough decades after Devine left and the academics took over. We've been playing catchup for quite some time now, but do have leadership focused on the right things (both in
The athletic department and on the academic side). Pinkel, Alden and Deaton aren't perfect, but Pinkel knows how to build a sustainable program, Alden's done wonders as far as raising money and improving facilities and Deaton understands the value of successful athletics programs as a marketing tool for the whole university. Mizzou may never regain the position we held in the 60s as one of the nation's elite programs, but the dark ages of Mizzou athletics are staying in the past, as well.

Touched on this before, but I agree about Missouri with football. Recent history has shown that they are much different (and better) than the Missouri teams of the past few decades.

A&M would be in prime position to dominate the SEC West in basketball. I'd say the same about Mizzou if they didn't hire Haith; their future success has more doubt now.

 

[stoops4pres]

USF is probably better than Miami and FSU in football right now and they have only had a program since 1997.

But, why would FSU or Miami leave? The ACC just got better by adding prime-time programs.

1) Agreed about Miami, but saying USF is probably better than FSU is a stretch, IMO.

2) How exactly are Pitt and Syracuse "prime time" programs?

 

[NickZepp]

The real best solution right now for the Big 9 outside of adding ND which isn't likely to happen. Is to merge with the Big East. This is assuming Missouri leaves. Then add maybe Central Florida or BYU to make it 16. You get a mega conference for football have a very good basketball league too.

 

[WTSooner]

http://espn.go.com/college-football...-neinas-confident-missouri-tigers-stay-big-12

Interim Big 12 commissioner Chuck Neinas says he is confident Missouri will stay in the Big 12.

Neinas had said last week that there was "resistance" from some existing members to adding teams from Texas.

"I'd say that's changed," he said.

Can we please stop talking like Mizzou to the SEC is a done deal? Can we please stop talking about how nobody wants to add another Texas school?

 

[thebigabd]

Louisville
South Florida
Houston

Make it happen.

 

[AdaSooner]

http://espn.go.com/college-football...-neinas-confident-missouri-tigers-stay-big-12





Can we please stop talking like Mizzou to the SEC is a done deal? Can we please stop talking about how nobody wants to add another Texas school?

Neinas is the one who said some members were opposed to adding another Texas school. Now he's saying that mindset has changed. I see that as a good thing.

If the plan is to get back to ten and stay there, I think TCU makes more sense than going outside a reasonable distance that would add to the expense of traveling. If the plan is to return to the original twelve schools, I can see bringing in a couple of Big East schools, like Louisville and South Florida.

 

[WTSooner]

My problem with going after a WV, or possibly even a Florida school is this, are they going to want to have to travel that far EVERYTIME they play on the road? I don't know. I see very little benefit for any school to join a conference where there isn't at least one or two other teams very near to that school.

 

[thebigabd]

My problem with going after a WV, or possibly even a Florida school is this, are they going to want to have to travel that far EVERYTIME they play on the road? I don't know. I see very little benefit for any school to join a conference where there isn't at least one or two other teams very near to that school.

Tampa Bay to Houston: 981 miles
Lincoln to Houston: 880 miles
Boulder to Houston: 1139 miles
Tampa to Oklahoma City: 1274 miles
Ames to Lubbock: 930 miles
Tampa to Cincy: 925 miles
Tampa to Louisville: 880 miles

The cost of a flight from Des Moines to Oklahoma or Texas is the same as a flight from Tampa to these places as well.

Travel costs are the same, travel distance isnt much different than what it has been, etc.

Plus, if they are concerned about going out of region too much they could regionalize their non-conference schedule. Put Central Florida, Southern Miss, Miami, Florida A&M, East Carolina, etc on their non-con. That would be 4 games in the region plus half your conference games at home.

 

[NickZepp]

The main schools we are talking about are BYU in Provo, Utah, WVU in Morgantown, WV, and Louisville in Kentucky. It's 1115 miles from Norman to Provo, 1140 to Morgantown, and 780 miles to Kentucky from Norman.

 

[thebigabd]

The main schools we are talking about are BYU in Provo, Utah, WVU in Morgantown, WV, and Louisville in Kentucky. It's 1115 miles from Norman to Provo, 1140 to Morgantown, and 780 miles to Kentucky from Norman.

Is BYU practically a done deal?

 

[WTSooner]

Well, my point wasn't how far they'd have to fly to play the furthest schools, but that there weren't any short flights. I will admit to thinking SF had some closer schools they currently played, but that isn't correct. Without looking though, I do think that would be correct with BYU and WV. It'd certainly be true with Miamia and FSU.

 

[NickZepp]

Mizzou's Brady Deaton has stepped down from the realignment committee. Not a good sign.

 

[boksooner]

Mizzou's Brady Deaton has stepped down from the realignment committee. Not a good sign.

It's the Expansion Committee, but it is interesting the KSU President has replaced him. Isn't Deaton still the chairman of the board of presidents, or whatever it is called?

 

[dubyac]

from what i understand... deaton was never the chair of the expansion comittee, only the chair of the board of presidents... and the k-state pres. has been the chair of the expansion committee all along... also, im reading byu bloggers on twitter claiming last night they agreed to join the big 12, contingent on what mizzou does next tuesday...

i think west virgina, louisville shoud be the next 2... but boise and tcu still have a shot...

 

[thebigabd]

from what i understand... deaton was never the chair of the expansion comittee, only the chair of the board of presidents... and the k-state pres. has been the chair of the expansion committee all along... also, im reading byu bloggers on twitter claiming last night they agreed to join the big 12, contingent on what mizzou does next tuesday...

i think west virgina, louisville shoud be the next 2... but boise and tcu still have a shot...

man, Boise and TCU suck something awful at basketball.

I bet most people dont know Boise even plays basketball, lol.

 

[Tony]

I bet most people dont know Boise even plays basketball, lol.

Do they play on a blue court?

 

[dubyac]

if i remember right, it's a weird blue/orange conglomeration.. sorta like the colorado state ram court..