Jeff Capel is the new HC at Pittsburgh

[Oscar Uniform]

Let the flames begin....

Also, I didn't realize Pitt was 0-18 in the ACC last year.

 

[cjhsooner]

I feel like this is a redux thread...

 

[greenbug]

I feel like this is a redux thread...

Lol

 

[mardaddy51]

I actually think he’ll do well there. More of his region & I bet he learned a ton from his experience as HC at OU & assistant at Duke.

 

[CoachTalk]

I think you’ll do really good as well. And I hope he does well

 

[mict085]

The guy can’t coach. He’s in over his head. He’ll be fired in 3-4 years

 

[WaymanFan]

The guy can’t coach. He’s in over his head. He’ll be fired in 3-4 years

Was he unbeaten (7-0) in OT games at OU? If he was, well then he knows how to coach. Chapel struggled at OU with the challenges of running a top-25 basketball program. That’s a correctable mistake. What is not correctable is instincts. Can he get that 4-Star player or high 3-Star player who will help him into the second weekend in the NCAA Tourney? Did he learn the importance of having a Plan B when his Plan A falls through. Yes, Coach Capel made his share of mistakes, but I never saw any evidence that he can’t coach a team up.

 

[WichitaSooner]

Was he unbeaten (7-0) in OT games at OU? If he was, well then he knows how to coach. Chapel struggled at OU with the challenges of running a top-25 basketball program. That’s a correctable mistake. What is not correctable is instincts. Can he get that 4-Star player or high 3-Star player who will help him into the second weekend in the NCAA Tourney? Did he learn the importance of having a Plan B when his Plan A falls through. Yes, Coach Capel made his share of mistakes, but I never saw any evidence that he can’t coach a team up.

I saw five years of evidence of that very thing. Take away one outstanding season thanks to Blake's dominance, and the other four years were a disaster. His teams looked disorganized and didn't compete harrd. Look how many times they wee blown out, even in Blake's freshman year.

 

[mardaddy51]

I saw five years of evidence of that very thing. Take away one outstanding season thanks to Blake's dominance, and the other four years were a disaster. His teams looked disorganized and didn't compete harrd. Look how many times they wee blown out, even in Blake's freshman year.

So, you don’t think coaches can learn from their mistakes & change for the better? Your take seems awfully narrow-minded. For one, he’s already a better recruiter than he was at OU. He was Duke’s main recruiter the last few years & pulled in all their top talent.

 

[skyvue]

So, you don’t think coaches can learn from their mistakes & change for the better? Your take seems awfully narrow-minded. For one, he’s already a better recruiter than he was at OU. He was Duke’s main recruiter the last few years & pulled in all their top talent.

I'm not sure there's a poster on this board who couldn't recruit to Duke.

What I'd question is whether he's learn to recognize poor-character players (and to make them walk a straight line when he does end up with one under his charge).

 

[WichitaSooner]

So, you don’t think coaches can learn from their mistakes & change for the better? Your take seems awfully narrow-minded. For one, he’s already a better recruiter than he was at OU. He was Duke’s main recruiter the last few years & pulled in all their top talent.

Where in my post did I suggest he couldn't learn from his mistakes? I was replying solely to a post in which someone said there was no evidence he didn't coach well at OU. As for recruiting, he actually was a great recruiter at OU. He got plenty of talent. Unfortunately, some of those players were head cases, and he didn't come close to getting the most out of that talent.

 

[mict085]

Capel is a terrible coach and doesn’t know how to run a program. Now, he’s tasked with rebuilding a pitt program that is at rock bottom. LOL.

Pouring gasoline on a dumpster fire.

As for his “great” recruiting at Duke. I could be a great recruiter at duke. Any number of assistant coaches could do what he does at duke. Many duke assistants look great at duke, then look not so great when they leave duke.

Capel is not a good coach. He is not a good leader. He is not a program builder.

 

[Soonerinkc]

I'm not sure there's a poster on this board who couldn't recruit to Duke.

What I'd question is whether he's learn to recognize poor-character players (and to make them walk a straight line when he does end up with one under his charge).

yup..

 

[CoachTalk]

Rough crowd. Young coaches make mistakes... I’m sure Capel has learned a lot since his days at OU.

 

[thebigabd]

Being on the "east coast" will help Jeff Capel. Blake Griffin bailed him out here but you don't succeed at OU the same way you do at Duke. Kelvin knew what it took to be consistent at OU but it is relatively unique.

 

[WaymanFan]

Rough crowd. Young coaches make mistakes... I’m sure Capel has learned a lot since his days at OU.

I agree. No one seemed to want to comment on his OT record at OU. I’m not positive it’s 7-0, but figured if it was much worse, someone would have corrected me. I think he’ll do a good job at Pitt IF he at least privately acknowledged the mistakes he made at OU. If he’s putting most of the blame elsewhere (which I doubt), then Pitt isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.

If 7-0 was his OT record, that’s quite impressive regardless of who the opponents were. In case some aren’t paying attention, we haven’t exactly done well in OT games in recent memory.

 

[WichitaSooner]

I agree. No one seemed to want to comment on his OT record at OU. I’m not positive it’s 7-0, but figured if it was much worse, someone would have corrected me. I think he’ll do a good job at Pitt IF he at least privately acknowledged the mistakes he made at OU. If he’s putting most of the blame elsewhere (which I doubt), then Pitt isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.

If 7-0 was his OT record, that’s quite impressive regardless of who the opponents were. In case some aren’t paying attention, we haven’t exactly done well in OT games in recent memory.

Because a seven-game sample size is so small as to almost be irrelevant, especially without context. Mike Trout has very bad postseason stats. He has also only played in three postseason games. Would anyone suggest that those three games mean he isn't the best baseball player on the planet? As I pointed out in a similar discussion a few months ago, the UConn women have an atrocious record in OT -- does that men Geno isn't a good game coach, or that his coaching ability suddenly disappears once a game gets to OT? Capel coached 165 games at OU. I'll base my judgment on all 165, not on seven random games.

 

[opsooner]

I never liked Capek at OU but I never blamed him either. He was just not a good hire; lack of experience and lack of territory knowledge. Was in a system that always had talent and came to a program that needed someone to teach fundamentals and toughness. He had a name and that didn’t last long.

I suspect he will do better at Pitt this time around but we shall see.


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[BanjoCharley]

Capel's record at OU for all 165 games was 96–69. Not a fabulous record but not as bad as some coaches. Some want to say games when BG was here don't count but you either take the whole record or you cherry pick those games that support your opinion.

I am not a Capel fan but I know a little bit about about statistics. Statistics are the art of using numbers to prove anything you want.

 

[Maverick008]

Capel's record at OU for all 165 games was 96–69. Not a fabulous record but not as bad as some coaches. Some want to say games when BG was here don't count but you either take the whole record or you cherry pick those games that support your opinion.

I am not a Capel fan but I know a little bit about about statistics. Statistics are the art of using numbers to prove anything you want.

I don't think it's that they don't count, more that the guy really only had above .500 records when he had a super star or two on the roster and a .500 or below record when he didn't. That leads one to believe that he's an average X's and O's guy when the teams are even or his talent isn't as good as the other teams. That doesn't bode well for a guy at OU or even at Pitt where there are going to be minimum 4-5 teams every year with more talent in that conference even if Capel recruits well.