Kansas begs Nebraska not to leave the Big 12

campbest said:
You're looking at max two distant road games per year in the regular season, one in Arizona and the other somewhere else. Obviously, I bet they rotate the Championship game inbetween Dallas and somewhere else.

Just want to reiterate....men's basketball conference tourney in Las Vegas. Yes it's real.
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Please permanently place the MBB and WBB in Las Vegas. That would be awesome.
 
skyvue said:
That's a point that occurs to me frequently during these discussions, so I'm glad to see you make it.
I'm willing to bet Mizzou doesn't get all that many viewers in St. Louis and KC, either (though I have no evidence to support my guess), and I can guarantee you Rutgers (which the Big Ten is said to be interested in, if ND doesn't work out) is not a big TV draw in the Tri-State area around NYC.
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Agreed but it's all about subscribers not viewers. The cable companies in Denver, St. Louis & KC would most certainly carry the games or they would receive huge negative response from the locals. And in the day of satellite TV cable companies now more than ever are about being "local" and offering "local" programming. So the conferences get .50 or .70 cents (or whatever they negotiate) per subscriber whether anyone is watching or not. So the bigger the market the more they make regardless if anyone is watching.
 
Mr.B!!! said:
Please permanently place the MBB and WBB in Las Vegas. That would be awesome.
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Not really. I don't gamble and I don't really feel like dropping thousands and thousands of dollars on airfare and hotel. Give me a drive to OKC or KC any day of the week.
 
campbest said:
You're looking at max two distant road games per year in the regular season, one in Arizona and the other somewhere else. Obviously, I bet they rotate the Championship game inbetween Dallas and somewhere else.

Just want to reiterate....men's basketball conference tourney in Las Vegas. Yes it's real.
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You're looking at quite a few more in other sports like basketball and baseball, and you'd have plenty of lovely 10 p.m. CST tip times to look forward to.
 
seniorsooner said:
Not really. I don't gamble and I don't really feel like dropping thousands and thousands of dollars on airfare and hotel. Give me a drive to OKC or KC any day of the week.
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Thousands and Thousands?

I will admit the flight would be more expensive than driving, but if you don't stay on the Strip, it wouldn't be any different than staying in KC.
 
campbest said:
Thousands and Thousands?

I will admit the flight would be more expensive than driving, but if you don't stay on the Strip, it wouldn't be any different than staying in KC.
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Why go to Las Vegas to stay in a Travelodge?
 
campbest said:
You stay at the Travelodge in KC?
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Absolutely not. I'm just saying that if you want to stay someplace decent, even nice, it's much cheaper to do that in KC or OKC than it is in Vegas. The bottom line is this: if you have to pay for a flight, and a rental car (or cab fare), and hotel, and food, and drink, and tickets to the event, etc, etc in Vegas then yes it is going to cost you well over $1,000 if not $2,000+. I guess if you wanted to go by yourself and stay in a dump and eat the $5.99 buffet for every meal then yeah it would be cheap but most people have families and/or friends that they go with.

All of this is stupid anyway because how many conferences do you know of that hold their conference tournaments in states that don't even have a team in the conference? I don't know of many.
 
skyvue said:
That's a point that occurs to me frequently during these discussions, so I'm glad to see you make it.

I'm willing to bet Mizzou doesn't get all that many viewers in St. Louis and KC, either (though I have no evidence to support my guess), and I can guarantee you Rutgers (which the Big Ten is said to be interested in, if ND doesn't work out) is not a big TV draw in the Tri-State area around NYC.
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The Big Ten Network gets $0.88 for every cable subscriber in a state with a Big Ten school. They get $0.05 in non-Big Ten states. The Big Ten Network is part of extended basic cable in the Big Ten states. The Pac 10 is also looking at creating its own network, which is why the size of the Denver market and Colorado matters despite CU's low ratings.
 
seniorsooner said:
All of this is stupid anyway because how many conferences do you know of that hold their conference tournaments in states that don't even have a team in the conference? I don't know of many.
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Plus that is where the Mountain West has there tournament and I doubt UNLV would be too keen on giving that up.

If KU joins the Mountain West I won't be excited about a trip to Vegas for the conference tourney. Too far. Too many distractions. I love the Big 12's in KC or OKC where you're their about hoops, mingling with other teams fans, have brews right outside the arena in the entertainment districts, etc. In Vegas it would be go to the game and then everyone goes there separate ways. But again, I like the Big 12 tourney for the basketball experience.
 
skyvue said:
I'm willing to bet Mizzou doesn't get all that many viewers in St. Louis and KC, either (though I have no evidence to support my guess)
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I realize it was just a guess on your part, but Mizzou has a huge following in the STL area and people definitely watch the games here (I'm not familiar with KC).
 
Uh oh..........

http://www.tigerboard.com/boards/missouri-tigers.php?message=7631170

Here is the latest, and very distrubing, news on the Big 10 front. NU has received an offer from the Big 10, and will accept the invitation over the objection of Osborne who has described himslef as getting "cold feet" recently over the move. However, others "above his pay-grade" have already made the call, and Nebraska is going to the Big 10.

MU has not received an offer, and likely will not for the foreseeable future. Although we had reached an "understanding" with the Big 10, Notre Dame has since reentered the picture and has "refused to be put on a clock" concerning their decision for membership in the Big 10. Thus, the Big 10 is now making the decision to offer only Nebraska and take a wait-and-see approach on further offers for now until the Notre Dame issue is resolved.

Now, this is where it has gotten very scary for us: Texas has made it very clear to all involved that they have 5 other institutions waiting to, in their words, "bolt for the Pac 10" the moment Nebraska announces its agreement with the Big 10. This, according to them, is a "done deal" with the Pac 10 (As a parentthetical, it appears that Baylor, not CU will be part of that move, given Texas' insistence to the Pac 10, but I did not verify that fact for certain).

Thus, here is the position we are now in. Texas' (and other's) lawyers have concluded that it takes a simple majority to dissolve the Big 12. After Nebrasksa announces, the gang of six, either with or without Nebraska, can vote to dissolve the Big 12 as a conference (which they would all have a massive vested financial interest in doing). This would have the legal effect of, among other things, removing the financial penalties for withdrawl from the conference (estimted at almost $15 million per leaving institution, or roughly $105 million in total), as well as removing us as a BCS conference and dissolving our TV contract. In essence, we are about to be left holding an empty bag with very little recourse if any.

Why would the Big 10 do this to us? Jim delany is a shark, and he gets/understands all of the above. By simply bringing in one big 12 school (Nebraska, not MU), he can destroy the Big 12 as a conference (his major competitor for the midwest market) and still leave himself up to 5 slots to play with (Delaney, as he should be, cares only about what is best for his employer. This is business to him). He can then offer MU at his leisure at a later date, or not, as they see fit. Furthermore, Delaney gets that MU has some bargaining leverage at the moment as a member of the Big 12. Remove that membership (which everyone now gets will follow with certitude), and MU will clearly be willing to entertain a future Big 10 offer at a much better price for the Big 10 than what we would take toady. So even if the Big 10 ultimately wants MU, they still can get us but at a price that saves their membership millions fo dollars (i.e. - We, unlike Nebraska, will not be given full equity partnership for several years at a minimum - Or would need to buy our way in).

I wish it were not so. But I am certain that what I just wrote is about to befall us. Ugh.
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Is "TigerMike90" someone we should be listening to with regards to this story? Honest question.
 
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