Kansas begs Nebraska not to leave the Big 12

Sawyer said:
Has there been any information about Big 10 expansion that didn't come from Chip Brown (and by that, I mean didn't come straight from DeLoss Dodds)?

The Big 10 will add a minimum of two more teams. They didn't do all this just to add Nebraska. If Notre Dame says no thanks, I'm confident Mizzou's in, whether it's 14 or 16. If Notre Dame joins and they go to 16, Mizzou's in. The only way Mizzou gets left out is if the Big 10 takes Notre Dame and only one other (Rutgers or Maryland). I think 16 is far more likely than 14.
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Yep. Buyt you'd have to admit you'd feel a hell of a lot better if Mizzou was sitting on that invite right now. Certainly they were at a minimum the third choice of the B10.
 
Mr.B!!! said:
Yep. Buyt you'd have to admit you'd feel a hell of a lot better if Mizzou was sitting on that invite right now. Certainly they were at a minimum the third choice of the B10.
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I'm not convinced MU doesn't have one.

ALL the information on this is coming from orangebloods.com. Anyone really think Chip Brown has such great connections that no other journalist - not even one whose living depends on covering these teams - has anything?

The chairman of Nebraska's Board of Regents came out this evening and said there was no vote, there hasn't been an official invitation and nothing has been decided. They just set an agenda for a meeting on Friday, when they will discuss this. MU's board of curators also meets tomorrow and Friday.

When information starts coming out that isn't based on Chip Brown's "reporting" and it's indicating MU may not get an invite, then I might be concerned. But until then I'm not worried. UT's mouthpiece can say all it wants.
 
If you'll read the statement released by Nebraska carefully, it says that the Big 10 doesn't give out invites, period. It said you send a "bid" to the Big 10 and they accept or reject it. Semantics at its best.
 
I know that. Point is, nothing is finalized with Nebraska yet. That happens Friday. And between now and then, Missouri will also be meeting.
 
Sawyer said:
I know that. Point is, nothing is finalized with Nebraska yet. That happens Friday. And between now and then, Missouri will also be meeting.
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Well no one knows with any bit of certainty what is going on with Missouri because no one, and I mean NO ONE, at Missouri is talking. Whether that is a good or a bad sign we just have no way of knowing.
 
The Nebraska story has been confirmed by at least 10 media outlets. It's not just Chip Brown. Even the Chicago Tribune Big 10 reporter has confirmed it with his sources.

And we are supposed to believe that there are abundant sources about Nebraska and not a single one about Missouri?

I just don't see what Missouri brings to the table. Nothing near the prestige Nebraska brings. Rutgers, Syracuse or Maryland would be home runs too. If I was wagering I would guess that the Big 10 either stops at 12 or adds 2 of those 3 and stops at 14 while waiting on Notre Dame.
 
The only thing Mizzou brings is that they are kinda close to St. Louis.
 
bocabull said:
The Nebraska story has been confirmed by at least 10 media outlets. It's not just Chip Brown. Even the Chicago Tribune Big 10 reporter has confirmed it with his sources.

And we are supposed to believe that there are abundant sources about Nebraska and not a single one about Missouri?

I just don't see what Missouri brings to the table. Nothing near the prestige Nebraska brings. Rutgers, Syracuse or Maryland would be home runs too. If I was wagering I would guess that the Big 10 either stops at 12 or adds 2 of those 3 and stops at 14 while waiting on Notre Dame.
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I'm not sure why Nebraska is all that attractive. They are a one-trick pony, and they have no large city in their region. I know they have a national following, to a certain degree, but they've been average at best for a while. That following's not what it was. And it's been explained here that the point of adding teams is to get the large TV market, so the conference gets a payout for a certain number of subscribers in a large market. NU won't bring that, will it?

Rutgers won't bring those subscribers, either. The NYC cable companies won't be carrying Rutgers football. NJ cable companies will, I guess, but I'm telling you, this is pro sports territory.

And I don't see why Syracuse would be more attractive to the Big 10 than KU. They're both good at basketball, and not much else.
 
Skyvue I'd be interested to hear your thoughts/opinions on the Big 12 disbanding and OU going to the Pac whatever.
 
Cheno said:
Skyvue I'd be interested to hear your thoughts/opinions on the Big 12 disbanding and OU going to the Pac whatever.
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Well, first and foremost, if it's all going to hit the fan, I want Joe C. and President Boren to do what they have to do for OU to come out in good shape.

But overall, I think this whole mess stinks. NU and MU can kiss my behind, as they seem to be the cause of all this.

There's a lot of tradition being thrown out the window, and I think a Pac 16 has almost no appeal compared to the Big 6/7/8/12. Even putting tradition aside, the conference as it stands now makes a certain geographic and even cultural sense. As others have pointed out, you can currently drive to virtually any road conference game.

That's gone now, and so is that sense of shared cultural experience. Oregon and Washington have no connection to Oklahoma and Texas whatsoever. None. Not geographic, not cultural, not historical. That's not a knock on those places -- I've visited both of those states, and liked them very much. But I also like Maine -- maybe Univ. of Maine could join the Pac 10, too.

I don't even like 12-team conferences, so I think 16-team ones are a travesty. As far as I'm concerned, if you can't play every other team in your conference during a football season, your conference is too big.

But that horse is obviously long out of the barn -- there's no unringing that bell, unfortunately.
 
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skyvue said:
Well, first and foremost, if it's all going to hit the fan, I want Joe C. and President Boren to do what they have to do for OU to come out in good shape.

But overall, I think this whole mess stinks. NU and MU can kiss my behind, as they seem to be the cause of all this.

There's a lot of tradition being thrown out the window, and I think a Pac 16 has almost no appeal compared to the Big 6/7/8/12. Even putting tradition aside, the conference as it stands now makes a certain geographic and even cultural sense. As others have pointed out, you can currently drive to virtually any road conference game.

That's gone now, and so is that sense of shared cultural experience. Oregon and Washington have no connection to Oklahoma and Texas whatsoever. None. Not geographic, not cultural, not historical. That's not a knock on those places -- I've visited both of those states, and liked them very much. But I also like Maine -- maybe Univ. of Maine could join the Pac 10, too.

I don't even like 12-team conferences, so I think 16-team ones are a travesty. As far as I'm concerned, if you can't play every other team in your conference during a football season, your conference is too big.

But that horse is obviously long out of the barn -- there's no unringing that bell, unfortunately.
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One More Rebound said:
Have you found any thriving Mountain West Hoops boards yet? Good luck in your search...
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You know the backhanded slaps may seem funny now but it's going to be hilarious when KU hoops is just fine. KU has two years to find a conference. I'm not too worried about it yet. Heck, I even read a report this morning saying the Pac-10 has considered going to 20 teams and include most of the Big 12 including the two Kansas schools. I like this board because it's an OU board. I'm curious though since you brought it up.....where is the "thriving Big 12 hoops board"?
 
skyvue said:
Well, first and foremost, if it's all going to hit the fan, I want Joe C. and President Boren to do what they have to do for OU to come out in good shape.

But overall, I think this whole mess stinks. NU and MU can kiss my behind, as they seem to be the cause of all this.

There's a lot of tradition being thrown out the window, and I think a Pac 16 has almost no appeal compared to the Big 6/7/8/12. Even putting tradition aside, the conference as it stands now makes a certain geographic and even cultural sense. As others have pointed out, you can currently drive to virtually any road conference game.

That's gone now, and so is that sense of shared cultural experience. Oregon and Washington have no connection to Oklahoma and Texas whatsoever. None. Not geographic, not cultural, not historical. That's not a knock on those places -- I've visited both of those states, and liked them very much. But I also like Maine -- maybe Univ. of Maine could join the Pac 10, too.

I don't even like 12-team conferences, so I think 16-team ones are a travesty. As far as I'm concerned, if you can't play every other team in your conference during a football season, your conference is too big.

But that horse is obviously long out of the barn -- there's no unringing that bell, unfortunately.
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Skyvue you and I have our problems but this is exactly the response I knew you'd give. Well said. I agree 110%. And like you said it just irks me Nebraska and Missouri couldn't see the Big 12 could have the same revenue opportunities in a couple years. If a "super conference" was the way to go we could have added 4 regional teams and formed a Big 12 network. It's going to be 2 full seasons until all this happens anyways. I haven't given up hope though. I know Joe C, Perkins and some other power players in the conference are still fighting. Sadly, it's all up to UT now.
 
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