Most Overpaid College Coaches: Capel and Ford in Top 10

[AdaSooner]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basket...g=ys-forbes_most_overpaid_ncaa_coaches_031511

 

[ByronHoustonsSweatyPalms]

1. John Calipari, University of Kentucky
2. Travis Ford, Oklahoma State University
3. Oliver Purnell, DePaul University
4. Billy Donovan, University of Florida
5. Bill Self, University of Kansas

It's embarrassing to be mentioned in the same breath with the likes of Calipari, Self and Donovan.

 

[campbest]

If Bill Self is overpaid, so is Bob Stoops.

Their analysis doesn't take into consideration the supplemental income brought in by the university through the respective programs.

 

[JBaker]

How in the hell is Travis Ford making $1.8 mil?

 

[Jason]

How in the hell is Travis Ford making $1.8 mil?

Aggie logic. That's how.

 

[Chaser728]

The problem with this, "supplemental income" is that there just isn't that much money in basketball. Football is the moneymaker and unfortunately, basketball doesn't bring in enough money to make some of these salaries justifiable. This of course is in comparison between football income and basketball income. For instance, via http://www.businesspundit.com/the-12-most-valuable-teams-in-ncaa-football/ and http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/18/news/companies/basketball_profits/index.htm; one can find out a lot.

It states that Oklahoma's Basketball team made in profit about 1.3 mil while their coach made about 1.6 mil a year in salary. Now look at the football team, it is no surprise that the football team made a bunch more profit than the basketball team. They made 40 mil in profit while their coach only made 3.8 mil in salary. How does that compute? I know Stoops is making 3 times as much in salary, but based on revenue and the bottom line, he should be making more than that. If you compare the the two lists, you will see this to be common with most of the schools. So, all in all, they are overpaid because they really don't bring in big bucks to the university. Oh, one more thing, Duke, lost 2 mil last year on their basketball team and they won it all! Just some food for thought.

 

[campbest]

The problem with this, "supplemental income" is that there just isn't that much money in basketball. Football is the moneymaker and unfortunately, basketball doesn't bring in enough money to make some of these salaries justifiable. This of course is in comparison between football income and basketball income. For instance, via http://www.businesspundit.com/the-12-most-valuable-teams-in-ncaa-football/ and http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/18/news/companies/basketball_profits/index.htm; one can find out a lot.

It states that Oklahoma's Basketball team made in profit about 1.3 mil while their coach made about 1.6 mil a year in salary. Now look at the football team, it is no surprise that the football team made a bunch more profit than the basketball team. They made 40 mil in profit while their coach only made 3.8 mil in salary. How does that compute? I know Stoops is making 3 times as much in salary, but based on revenue and the bottom line, he should be making more than that. If you compare the the two lists, you will see this to be common with most of the schools. So, all in all, they are overpaid because they really don't bring in big bucks to the university. Oh, one more thing, Duke, lost 2 mil last year on their basketball team and they won it all! Just some food for thought.

I was referring to the Calipari/Self spots on the list. Those programs bring in enough money.

 

[DenverSooner]

How about Leonard Hamilton making 1.6 million with a .545 winning percentage and only 6 NCAA appearances in 23 seasons. How do you even keep a job let alone make $1.6 million with that record. Every fourth year he goes to the NCAA Tournament. If his total winning percentage is .545 it is fairly safe to assume he has a losing record in conference play (the non-conference schedule is full of automatic wins at most schools - For Example, OU had a winning non-conference record this year even with games against Arizona, Kentucky, Virginia, Arkansas and Cinci due to playing a bunch of easy games)

 

[StoopsBros]

Tom Crean - whatever he's getting paid.

 

[ByronHoustonsSweatyPalms]

Capel had the best college BB player of the decade, made $1.6M and still had a losing record 3 out his 5 seasons. Tell me again how Travis Ford is on this list?

 

[boksooner]

Capel had the best college BB player of the decade, made $1.6M and still had a losing record 3 out his 5 seasons. Tell me again how Travis Ford is on this list?

If you read the article, you would see that it is a mathmatical formula. And Capel made the list, too. I think he was tenth.

 

[MercedeSooner]

Go OU.

 

[AdaSooner]

Capel had the best college BB player of the decade, made $1.6M and still had a losing record 3 out his 5 seasons. Tell me again how Travis Ford is on this list?

Ford's spot on the list appears to be tied to five losing seasons out of the eleven he has been a head coach. His winning percentage is an unimpressive .559 to this point, none of which means diddily squat in the over all scheme of things. The author uses a "what have you done for me lately" approach" in his text, but takes a coach's entire body of work to task in trying to justify why he was included on the overpaid list.

For the record, I don't agree with the article. I posted it because I thought it would create some discussion. Mission accomplished.

 

[Chaser728]

I was referring to the Calipari/Self spots on the list. Those programs bring in enough money.

Kansas only brings in 7 mil and Kentucky brings in 6 mil according to 2010 information Kentucky football brings in about 10 mil more per year than the basketball team. Kansas is about just as close. Yet their coaches are paid 3 mill... It just doesn't make sense, and of course you chose to ignore the comment about Duke losing 2 million in a Championship year. How can we justify that high of salaries?

 

[152219]

Kansas only brings in 7 mil and Kentucky brings in 6 mil according to 2010 information Kentucky football brings in about 10 mil more per year than the basketball team. Kansas is about just as close. Yet their coaches are paid 3 mill... It just doesn't make sense, and of course you chose to ignore the comment about Duke losing 2 million in a Championship year. How can we justify that high of salaries?

Schools can give their dollars in a number of ways. For example, donations can be placed directly in football and basketball (and other sports) or they can be placed in an "other" category. Most place them in the "other" category IMO, including KU and UK, but Duke and Louisville does not (look at their hoops dollars according to that website, no way Louisville's basketball program makes more than UK's)

 

[campbest]

Kansas only brings in 7 mil and Kentucky brings in 6 mil according to 2010 information Kentucky football brings in about 10 mil more per year than the basketball team. Kansas is about just as close. Yet their coaches are paid 3 mill... It just doesn't make sense, and of course you chose to ignore the comment about Duke losing 2 million in a Championship year. How can we justify that high of salaries?

Duke, as an institution, doesn't get any extra notoriety when their high profile team does well?

Pretty sure when Stoops won the MNC, applications to OU jumped some 15% or more the next year. Having good teams brings people back to campus, who in turn, open their pocket books for donations to respective university colleges. Is that amount hard to figure? You bet, but it makes a legitimate difference.