NBA- OU players and general (this thread only)

SoonerBounce13 said:
There is a greater chance the lottery is rigged than dallas had of getting the 1st pick
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every team has a rep plus lots of media members watching the actual lotto draw for the picks ..

so EVERY TEAM in the league plus LOTS of media would be keeping this "rigged" secret . and why would the wizards and jazz be on board with the rigging ??
 
this is not like Ewing back in the day when the "lotto" was a guy randomly drawing envelopes out of a box
 
The NBA went to flattened lottery odds back in 2019/2020 to discourage tanking. That measure is working. Teams like the Jazz/Wizards who basically gave up on the season after the pre-season shouldn't be rewarded for that. The worst record in the league only has a 14% chance of getting the No.1 pick. 86% chance they won't get it!
 
allday92 said:
The NBA went to flattened lottery odds back in 2019/2020 to discourage tanking. That measure is working. Teams like the Jazz/Wizards who basically gave up on the season after the pre-season shouldn't be rewarded for that. The worst record in the league only has a 14% chance of getting the No.1 pick. 86% chance they won't get it!
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it for sure is not really working ... it just changed where in the rankings teams tanked ..
 
BoulderSooner said:
every team has a rep plus lots of media members watching the actual lotto draw for the picks ..

so EVERY TEAM in the league plus LOTS of media would be keeping this "rigged" secret . and why would the wizards and jazz be on board with the rigging ??
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I have no idea. It is still possible.
I don't think it is plausible that every owner is in on it.
It would have to be rigged in the number of balls they put in to increase the odds for who they want to win it
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
I have no idea. It is still possible.
I don't think it is plausible that every owner is in on it.
It would have to be rigged in the number of balls they put in to increase the odds for who they want to win it
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that is not how it works ..

every team as a combination of numbers they have the list before the draw .. and then the random draw is just a combination of numbers

here is the video NO chance it is rigged (also run by a big 4 firm)

 
SoonerBounce13 said:
I have no idea. It is still possible.
I don't think it is plausible that every owner is in on it.
It would have to be rigged in the number of balls they put in to increase the odds for who they want to win it
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If it is rigged, why would it be rigged for Dallas?

If you play this hypothetical out, Silver called Dallas and told them to trade Luka to his biggest market in exchange for Cooper Flagg. If that's the case, there was one big domino that had to fall for Dallas to even get into the lottery - Kyrie tearing his ACL. The Mavs were only in the lottery cause of the Kyrie injury.
 
allday92 said:
If it is rigged, why would it be rigged for Dallas?

If you play this hypothetical out, Silver called Dallas and told them to trade Luka to his biggest market in exchange for Cooper Flagg. If that's the case, there was one big domino that had to fall for Dallas to even get into the lottery - Kyrie tearing his ACL. The Mavs were only in the lottery cause of the Kyrie injury.
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also they ( the mavs players) had to lose to memphis to not be the 8 seed ..
 
allday92 said:
If it is rigged, why would it be rigged for Dallas?

If you play this hypothetical out, Silver called Dallas and told them to trade Luka to his biggest market in exchange for Cooper Flagg. If that's the case, there was one big domino that had to fall for Dallas to even get into the lottery - Kyrie tearing his ACL. The Mavs were only in the lottery cause of the Kyrie injury.
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I mean not really. That is just speculation that they wouldn't have been in the lottery

It didn't have to be that Sliver promised the #1 pick. It could have just been a more vague promise. "Look, you want to trade Donic. If you make a deal to get him to the Lakers, we will make it worth your while"

But even if the goal was to get them in the lottery, that still could have happened without kyrie being injured.
We don't have a big enough sample size to know how the mavs would have fared. They were a .500 team up until kyries injury and that includes most of the games with donic.

I'm not saying it was rigged...but it sure is a stroke of luck once again for a team that traded a star to a big market
 
allday92 said:
The NBA went to flattened lottery odds back in 2019/2020 to discourage tanking. That measure is working. Teams like the Jazz/Wizards who basically gave up on the season after the pre-season shouldn't be rewarded for that. The worst record in the league only has a 14% chance of getting the No.1 pick. 86% chance they won't get it!
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Tanking is not what has hurt the league. It's the quality of play, the obnoxious amount of foul calls, the flopping and flailing from the players, and the complaining. Catering everything to the star players at the expense of the quality of the game itself is not a good way to operate. Not allowing the worst teams in the league to draft the best players is a great way to make sure they stay the worst teams in the league. That is sure to prevent any interest from those fan bases. The NFL doesn't do this with their draft and tanking hasn't been an issue for them. It feels to me like the NBA has its priorities a little mixed up here - and that's not just my opinion - you can see it in the decline in ratings YoY since the early 2010s
 
allday92 said:
The NBA went to flattened lottery odds back in 2019/2020 to discourage tanking. That measure is working. Teams like the Jazz/Wizards who basically gave up on the season after the pre-season shouldn't be rewarded for that. The worst record in the league only has a 14% chance of getting the No.1 pick. 86% chance they won't get it!
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The lottery seems to be recycling a lot of the same teams the last few years doesn't seem to really help these teams from tanking.
 
cbertus6 said:
Tanking is not what has hurt the league. It's the quality of play, the obnoxious amount of foul calls, the flopping and flailing from the players, and the complaining. Catering everything to the star players at the expense of the quality of the game itself is not a good way to operate. Not allowing the worst teams in the league to draft the best players is a great way to make sure they stay the worst teams in the league. That is sure to prevent any interest from those fan bases. The NFL doesn't do this with their draft and tanking hasn't been an issue for them. It feels to me like the NBA has its priorities a little mixed up here - and that's not just my opinion - you can see it in the decline in ratings YoY since the early 2010s
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You can't compare football and basketball.. 1 single player can get a bball team championships for decades.. 1 single player in football in theory can do the same, but what's more important by a longshot than that 1 player is the 21 other starters
 
A girl i used to see in Dallas's dad had a big company that employed basically only women and every year at the Xmas party hed raffle $1000s of dollars of gifts. The big prizes were pre-handpicked behind the scenes and then dummy drawn in front of all of the employees and wouldn't you know it, each year it was one of the employees that "deserved" it (like all of the employees would agree and be happy that THAT girl won it). It was never someone that had been there like only 1 year. Always the oldest tenured or best employees that everyone also liked. Cracks me up to still think about it. Makes me think of the nba draft.. where there is a will, there is a way imo

Chicago got hometown rose. Ohio got lebron. I can't remember all of the other ridiculous ones. Smoke = fire
 
OU Players are all done for the season

Trae averaged 24.2 points 11.6 assists, 3.1 boards per game

Buddy 11.2 points 3.2 rebounds 1.6 assists. Only 37% from 3 which was the worst of his career basically. He did have some good moments in the playoffs but once Curry went out the Warriors were done and he didn't do well in the last 4 games.

Austin Reaves 20.2 points 5.8 assists. 4.5 rebounds. 37% from 3 and effective 55.6% from the field. A breakout year for him. Not sure how he'll fit with the Lakers going forward with Luka going forward but he's going to definitely be a coveted piece for someone.
 
NickZepp said:
OU Players are all done for the season

Trae averaged 24.2 points 11.6 assists, 3.1 boards per game

Buddy 11.2 points 3.2 rebounds 1.6 assists. Only 37% from 3 which was the worst of his career basically. He did have some good moments in the playoffs but once Curry went out the Warriors were done and he didn't do well in the last 4 games.

Austin Reaves 20.2 points 5.8 assists. 4.5 rebounds. 37% from 3 and effective 55.6% from the field. A breakout year for him. Not sure how he'll fit with the Lakers going forward with Luka going forward but he's going to definitely be a coveted piece for someone.
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I'll never get over how well AR is doing. I would have never guessed that. That's awesome
 
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