NCAA Tournament - Saturday & Sunday Games

[SoonerBounce13]

Women’s bball is really hard to watch.

 

[WichitaSooner]

Yet Kansas in it at the end. If St. Johns were just an okay team they would have run away with this as bad as Kansas played.

St John’s is outstanding. They shot like crap tonight and that allowed it to be a close game.

 

[hoopsaustin]

Watching ben mccollum's last shot from 3 was poetry. Had his PG take a long loop in front of the screener and there was no hedge and so the defender chased. PG caught while running down the court already full steam. Charged the corners defender and like an option in football, made him choose to cut him off and leave the corner 3 or stay and the PG was going to go for the tie instead with a layup. The defender committed, boom corner 3 with perfect pass. Ball game. Defending champs out, first sweet 16 since 1999. Mccollum got EXACTLY what look he wanted and he had the plan for the 2nd option layup.

Porter would have had us do lazy cuts to catch the inbounds, and going backward (if we even get the ball in), possibly not even our preferred guard even, and then we would have got the ball to the 3 pt line and then we would have dribbled it around and forced a contested 3, or MAYBE a ball screen and then a contested 3 for the loss on a bigger defender, prolly.

Its just sickening seeing good coaching. And some on here, just dont get it that porter is our 3 million dollar/year anchor around the program's neck

 

[WTSooner]

Watching ben mccollum's last shot from 3 was poetry. Had his PG take a long loop in front of the screener and there was no hedge and so the defender chased. PG caught while running down the court already full steam. Charged the corners defender and like an option in football, made him choose to cut him off and leave the corner 3 or stay and the PG was going to go for the tie instead with a layup. The defender committed, boom corner 3 with perfect pass. Ball game. Defending champs out, first sweet 16 since 1999. Mccollum got EXACTLY what look he wanted and he had the plan for the 2nd option layup.

Porter would have had us do lazy cuts to catch the inbounds, and going backward (if we even hit the ball in), possibly not even our preferred guard even, and then we would have go the ball to the 3 pt line and then we would have dribbled it around and forced a contested 3, or MAYBE a ball screen and then a contested 3 for the loss on a bigger defender, prolly.

Its just sickening seeing good coaching. And some on here, just dont get it that porter is our 3 million dollar/year anchor around the program's neck

It doesn't take big NIL dollars to draw up plays like that. THAT is coaching and THAT is what OU has been lacking.

 

[hoopsaustin]

Women’s bball is really hard to watch.

I swear it's getting worse instead of better somehow.. I watched a D2 womens tourney game the other day (not D1 with actual NIL motivations to be fair) and there were prolly 35-40 TOs. There was a stretch of travel, double dribble, travel. Wild.

Also, something interesting im seeing is that small town girls teams are actually sometimes beating like 5A-6A schools now. My theory is that the small town girls have nothing else to do while the city girls have other things they're more interested in

 

[NickZepp]

The shooting in WBB used to be a lot better than it feels like now.

 

[hoopsaustin]

Women’s bball is really hard to watch.

That said, Jennie is great imo. Made the tourney every year, 5 or higher seeds. Porter 20% Moser should attend her coaches' clinics

 

[allday92]

Watching ben mccollum's last shot from 3 was poetry. Had his PG take a long loop in front of the screener and there was no hedge and so the defender chased. PG caught while running down the court already full steam. Charged the corners defender and like an option in football, made him choose to cut him off and leave the corner 3 or stay and the PG was going to go for the tie instead with a layup. The defender committed, boom corner 3 with perfect pass. Ball game. Defending champs out, first sweet 16 since 1999. Mccollum got EXACTLY what look he wanted and he had the plan for the 2nd option layup.

Porter would have had us do lazy cuts to catch the inbounds, and going backward (if we even hit the ball in), possibly not even our preferred guard even, and then we would have go the ball to the 3 pt line and then we would have dribbled it around and forced a contested 3, or MAYBE a ball screen and then a contested 3 for the loss on a bigger defender, prolly.

Its just sickening seeing good coaching. And some on here, just dont get it that porter is our 3 million dollar/year anchor around the program's neck

Lol, we're hyping up a banana cut? The same concept OU used a lot, especially against A&M's press? Stirtz went backwards to get the ball. It was an all time bad defensive rep from Boogie Fland and Xavian Lee. Two guys that ended up guarding no one because of one cut. I'm all for the Porter slander, this isn't really an example to use though.

 

[AnotherSoonerInTX]

Also, something interesting im seeing is that small town girls teams are actually sometimes beating like 5A-6A schools now. My theory is that the small town girls have nothing else to do while the city girls have other things they're more interested in

This is true. Also, the small school star players are playing on the same travel ball teams as the city/suburb kids.

 

[hoopsaustin]

Lol, we're hyping up a banana cut? The same concept OU used a lot, especially against A&M's press? Stirtz went backwards to get the ball. It was an all time bad defensive rep from Boogie Fland and Xavian Lee. Two guys that ended up guarding no one because of one cut. I'm all for the Porter slander, this isn't really an example to use though.

No it's not. Its not really a banana cut tho when it's all the way across court and the defender chases around the screen with no hedge. Our banana cuts are lazy and not set up and only using half the court and usually not running the baseline

 

[WaymanFan]

That said, Jennie is great imo. Made the tourney every year, 5 or higher seeds. Porter 20% Moser should attend her coaches' clinics

Back-to-back Sweet 16 appearances...and 5 straight tournament appearances with at least one win. I don't see us upsetting South Carolina a second time, but OU has been incredibly consistent since Jennie took over - a #3, #4, or #5 seed in all five years. Perhaps next season is the one she'll get us to where we can compete more consistently with the likes of South Carolina, Texas and UConn.

 

[NickZepp]

Back-to-back Sweet 16 appearances...and 5 straight tournament appearances with at least one win. I don't see us upsetting South Carolina a second time, but OU has been incredibly consistent since Jennie took over - a #3, #4, or #5 seed in all five years. Perhaps next season is the one she'll get us to where we can compete more consistently with the likes of South Carolina, Texas and UConn.

To be fair the competition level is easier in WBB. OU is at a level where it's maybe good enough to beat good mid level teams but mostly gets blown out by top teams. They did beat South Carolina though this year. There is a bigger difference between mid level in these conferences that there isn't even in the SEC or Big 10.

But we should be better on the men's side and haven't been for a while. Even Lon's last couple years.

 

[mict085]

I think he enjoys it too much to retire now.

His health says otherwise.

 

[cmdsooner]

Man Iowa has to have so much NIL money

No, but they do have one of the very best coaches in all of basketball who happens to be from Iowa. I think it’s pretty unlikely he’s there right now if they didn’t have that built in advantage.

Watching ben mccollum's last shot from 3 was poetry. Had his PG take a long loop in front of the screener and there was no hedge and so the defender chased. PG caught while running down the court already full steam. Charged the corners defender and like an option in football, made him choose to cut him off and leave the corner 3 or stay and the PG was going to go for the tie instead with a layup. The defender committed, boom corner 3 with perfect pass. Ball game. Defending champs out, first sweet 16 since 1999. Mccollum got EXACTLY what look he wanted and he had the plan for the 2nd option layup.

Porter would have had us do lazy cuts to catch the inbounds, and going backward (if we even get the ball in), possibly not even our preferred guard even, and then we would have got the ball to the 3 pt line and then we would have dribbled it around and forced a contested 3, or MAYBE a ball screen and then a contested 3 for the loss on a bigger defender, prolly.

It’s just sickening seeing good coaching. And some on here, just dont get it that porter is our 3 million dollar/year anchor around the program's neck

I love Ben McCollum maybe as much as anyone, but this was also a masterclass on how not to defend in the last 10 seconds from Florida. Iowa’s play design was pretty standard. Florida’s defense was basically everything you’re not supposed to do given the situation. Obviously, credit to Iowa for executing it.

 

[hoopsaustin]

No, but they do have one of the very best coaches in all of basketball who happens to be from Iowa. I think it’s pretty unlikely he’s there right now if they didn’t have that built in advantage.

I love Ben McCollum maybe as much as anyone, but this was also a masterclass on how not to defend in the last 10 seconds from Florida. Iowa’s play design was pretty standard. Florida’s defense was basically everything you’re not supposed to do given the situation. Obviously, credit to Iowa for executing it.

Why am I not convinced that porter would have done this standard thing tho, considering it's as you say "standard"?

 

[WichitaSooner]

Why am I not convinced that porter would have done this standard thing tho, considering it's as you say "standard"?

Given his game plan against UF, he would have drawn up a play for Pack, Brown, or Dayton to challenge their massive front court at the rim.

 

[TINY]

Given his game plan against UF, he would have drawn up a play for Pack, Brown, or Dayton to challenge their massive front court at the rim.

That gameplan was inexcusable.