Nor do I, but if it does it will be a 2-seed. Any suggestion to the contrary is laughable.
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Nor do I, but if it does it will be a 2-seed. Any suggestion to the contrary is laughable.
No clue what this means.
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If you have children (OU basketball team) would you request more from your neighbor's children (OSU basketball team) than you would ask of your own?
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They are actually in a decent spot for a 3 seed. In part b/c of what we've done in recent weeks, and in part b/c of what teams around us have done. Especially ISU.
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I just can't see a scenario in which we win out until the NCAA Tournament and don't finish as a two-seed.
How would we want replace KU as a two-seed?
I knew Aristotle posted on OUHoops. Turns out Confucius hangs out here as well.
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My own, and I'd have more faith in them, too. The latter of which this board seems to lack.
Everyone knows this team is pretty good, but won't trust them for some reason. Ostensibly because of its poor play two months ago.
I'm on board fully. Label me a homer if you must.
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So 25-8, regular season and conference tourney champions in a consensus top 2 league wouldn't get a 2 seed? OU would have 14 top 50 wins in that scenario.
The only way I could see them not getting the two seed is if Notre Dame or Louisville won out.
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This is a pretty good list of the S-curve. But even if we win out, you can make the argument that KU still has a slightly better "body of work" if you include the non-conference (wins over Utah, Michigan St - N, @Georgetown). It just depends on the committee and how much they would value OU's possible two wins over KU....and would those two wins over KU offset the differences in our resume (i.e. our bad losses....ugh.)
The other piece that we need to think about is the group of teams around us:
Notre Dame - if they win out (including the ACC conference tournament), they would have beaten Duke, Virginia, and Louisville possibly. They would have a case for a 2 seed if that were to occur.
Baylor and Iowa State - same scenario as above. If these two teams were to win out (including the Big 12 tournament), then they would have a case....and thus would eliminate us from a chance at a 2.
Maryland - although they have a gaudy record, there resume isn't all that strong outside of their win over Wisconsin.
Right now, it appears that KU is the last two seed. And unless Gonzaga or Wisconsin fall on their face, KU is the only team that would appear to be vulnerable on that line.
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Yes beating KU twice would look great, however, on the flip side KU won't be docked for losing one road game to the possible co-champion. The committee doesn't think like this.
The committee generally decides who will be where before the conference tournaments finish, which means, body of work trumps all.
The committee generally decides who will be where before the conference tournaments finish, which means, body of work trumps all.
But if would be physically impossible for Iowa State and/or Baylor to win out if the Sooners win out? Just saying.
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I will hold the line that winning out guarantees us a 2 seed on selection sunday.
The teams who could do the most damage to our seed are Baylor and Iowa State. If either or both get hot and go on runs/meet in the big 12 title game, we could get knocked off the three line...
The teams who could do the most damage to our seed are Baylor and Iowa State. If either or both get hot and go on runs/meet in the big 12 title game, we could get knocked off the three line...
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I wasn't as clear about it as I should have been....but it was mentioned in my original post:
"Baylor and Iowa State - same scenario as above. If these two teams were to win out (including the Big 12 tournament), then they would have a case....and thus would eliminate us from a chance at a 2."
I should have said Baylor or ISU because only one of us can win out.
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Current 2 Seeds Accrding to Joe
Gonzaga
Kansas
Arizona
Wisconsine
3s
Iowa State
Oklahoma
Notre Dame
Maryland
IF we win out, Kansas and Iowa State are not going to be ahead of us. we will have won the conference and conference tourney. Someone between Maryland and Wisconsin will have to lose in the Big 10 Tourney, and Notre Dame Has a game at Louisville, plus Virginia, Duke, and UNC to deal with in their Conference Tourney. It is more than possible that if we win out, we get a 2.
Gonzaga
Kansas
Arizona
Wisconsine
3s
Iowa State
Oklahoma
Notre Dame
Maryland
IF we win out, Kansas and Iowa State are not going to be ahead of us. we will have won the conference and conference tourney. Someone between Maryland and Wisconsin will have to lose in the Big 10 Tourney, and Notre Dame Has a game at Louisville, plus Virginia, Duke, and UNC to deal with in their Conference Tourney. It is more than possible that if we win out, we get a 2.
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Yep, and who would they put ahead of us? Maybe if Maryland finds a way to tie regular season and win tourney do we have a stalemate with two teams winning out.
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