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[CoachTalk]

Yeah being OU’s best 2 way player & honorable mention Big12 is an embarrassment.[/

He was bad on offense. Scored 0 points against sam Houston state. I called him out as a problem for the season in that game and I was 100% right.

You’re making yourself look bad. Keep going though.

 

[TINY]

You’re making yourself look bad. Keep going though.

Respectfully disagree.

He was the primary reason why our 4 out 1 in offense failed. No one covered him on the perimeter because he can’t shoot out there. He got swatted inside by legit PFs. Guy is a tweener that doesn’t belong as a starting pf in the big 12

 

[hoopsaustin]

I’ve been told Soars is in.

Id rather get his teammate Quincy Guerrier.. maybe this helps with him somehow?

 

[Eielson]

Id rather get his teammate Quincy Guerrier.. maybe this helps with him somehow?

Would be nice, but he seems Illinois-bound.

Soars would be a nice add if we didn't have Oweh and Cooper, but we do, so it seems like a strange add. He started all year at Oregon, so I imagine he's not looking to get under 20 minutes a game off the bench. I have to think he's planning to get significant minutes at the 4.

 

[BCSooners]

Yeah being OU’s best 2 way player & honorable mention Big12 is an embarrassment.[/

He was bad on offense. Scored 0 points against sam Houston state. I called him out as a problem for the season in that game and I was 100% right.

He also couldn’t defend legit power forwards. See osu.we are better off without him as our starting pf.

Lol how are you right? He scored 26 against Alabama if you want to use 1 game as an argument. He was 3rd in points, 2nd rebounds, 3rd in fg%, 2nd ft%, and was far and away the best defender. He could definitely defend power forwards and could switch out to point guards. But yeah, he was the problem.

 

[skyvue]

He was bad on offense. Scored 0 points against sam Houston state. I called him out as a problem for the season in that game and I was 100% right.

He was the third leading scorer on the team, half a point behind Tanner. His shooting percentage was 10 points better than Sherfield--even given the different positions they played, that's notable. If he had opted to return, he'd be our returning scorer.

But let's compare Soares and Hill: Hill outscored Soares by 2.5 points per game, outshot him from the field (50-43) and from deep (29-27). He got to the line more often than Soares and averaged two more rebounds.

Both Hill and Soares scored in single digits in 18 games. Soares scored 5 or fewer points 14 times (he went scoreless twice). Hill scored five or fewer points 8 times, with just one scoreless outing.

Hill was honorable mention all-conference in the toughest conference in the country; Soares was unmentioned in the Pac 12 all-conference honors.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

I’ve been told Soars is in.

Occasional (rare) lurker. Stopped by for a quick read of the latest debates.

FWIW: [tweet]https://twitter.com/MainTeamSports/status/1629752899730382849?s=20[/tweet]

Take care. Good luck. Boomer Sooner.

 

[WichitaSooner]

Water is wet.

And you’ve become the message board police. I guess you must feel like because you have sources and get some scoops, you are honor bound to defend every move the program makes. To each his own.

 

[CoachTalk]

And you’ve become the message board police. I guess you must feel like because you have sources and get some scoops, you are honor bound to defend every move the program makes. To each his own.

Untrue.

I hope this guy isn’t the starter. I said that in other post. We need quality depth.


But I also know 13 guys aren’t gonna play. I know 1-2-3-4 guys are gonna transfer next offseason most likely.

 

[TINY]

Lol how are you right? He scored 26 against Alabama if you want to use 1 game as an argument. He was 3rd in points, 2nd rebounds, 3rd in fg%, 2nd ft%, and was far and away the best defender. He could definitely defend power forwards and could switch out to point guards. But yeah, he was the problem.

Start a post with “LOL” and it isn’t even worth reading.

 

[TINY]

He was the third leading scorer on the team, half a point behind Tanner. His shooting percentage was 10 points better than Sherfield--even given the different positions they played, that's notable. If he had opted to return, he'd be our returning scorer.

But let's compare Soares and Hill: Hill outscored Soares by 2.5 points per game, outshot him from the field (50-43) and from deep (29-27). He got to the line more often than Soares and averaged two more rebounds.

Both Hill and Soares scored in single digits in 18 games. Soares scored 5 or fewer points 14 times (he went scoreless twice). Hill scored five or fewer points 8 times, with just one scoreless outing.

Hill was honorable mention all-conference in the toughest conference in the country; Soares was unmentioned in the Pac 12 all-conference honors.

They didn’t play the same amount of time. The per 40 is much closer. Oregon was better than ou last year so Soares didn’t play as many minutes. Soares is every bit as good as hill. Hill just played on a less talented team and got more opportunities.

 

[BCSooners]

Start a post with “LOL” and it isn’t even worth reading.

Ok it’s laughable that you state you’re right when the numbers, film, and post season honors say you’re wrong.

 

[BCSooners]

They didn’t play the same amount of time. The per 40 is much closer. Oregon was better than ou last year so Soares didn’t play as many minutes. Soares is every bit as good as hill. Hill just played on a less talented team and got more opportunities.

Hill’s per 100 possessions extends back closer to their normal stats. Also if Hill was on a less talented team then he shouldn’t get as many good looks because he would garner more attention from the defense. Yet he shot 12% higher from the field.

 

[hoopsaustin]

Occasional (rare) lurker. Stopped by for a quick read of the latest debates.

FWIW: https://twitter.com/MainTeamSports/status/1629752899730382849?s=20

Take care. Good luck. Boomer Sooner.

On their rivals too.

 

[TINY]

Hill’s per 100 possessions extends back closer to their normal stats. Also if Hill was on a less talented team then he shouldn’t get as many good looks because he would garner more attention from the defense. Yet he shot 12% higher from the field.

He was literally wide open for almost all of his 3s. Brick.

 

[BoulderSooner]

Occasional (rare) lurker. Stopped by for a quick read of the latest debates.

FWIW: [tweet]https://twitter.com/MainTeamSports/status/1629752899730382849?s=20[/tweet]

Take care. Good luck. Boomer Sooner.

thanks for the post ..

 

[BCSooners]

He was literally wide open for almost all of his 3s. Brick.

And yet still shot a higher % from 3 than Soares. His biggest weakness is still better than the guard you are touting.

 

[CMSOONER]

I think the argument between Hill and Soares is closer than some want to believe. Hill is a likeable kid and the ultimate glue guy which will leave him forever in a good light with fans. The truth is they are different players. Hill is a Forward and Soares is guard, both can guard 3-4 positions fairly effectively.

This argument should really be Soares vs J Groves.

 

[skyvue]

Hill played a total of 42 more minutes than Soares. But fine, let's look at the per-40-minutes averages:

Points:
Hill--.11.8
Soares--9.88

Rebounds:
Hill--7
Soares--5.12

Free throw attempts:
Hill--3.70
Soares--2.56

Assists:
Hill--1.64
Soares--.2.52

Blocks:
Hill--.76
Soares--.44

Steals:
Hill--.092
Soares--.080

 

[mardaddy51]

I think people are looking at this all wrong. Soares seems more like Groves’ replacement rather than Hill’s.