OSU fans - you are still 13-14 and...

[Vinny78]

A whopping 3 posts from the OP. Troll, anyone?

So once again the ol "I have a whole lot of posts so I am important and know alot more than everyone else" crap comes alive. SeniorSooner YOU my boy are the TROLL. Just because you have a ton of time to sit in front of your stupid computer has no relevance on your intelligence!!!!!!!!!!! I have had season tickets to OU football for 20 years and OU basketball for 10. I guess I just am there supporting the Sooners and not staying home typing stupid thoughts on a keyboard. I have been on this board, not with this name, for as long as it has been going and many of the others as well, just usually don't feel the need to say anything. So you are ASSuming something and you know what that does to you, :ez-roll:

 

[Vinny78]

The point is...this vinny guy is grasping at straws to try to make himself feel better about today. "I'll show them OSU fans to celebrate winning a game!"

Yoshi, huh? You eaten to many hot dogs? LOL
I don't "feel better" by commenting on 20 year olds shooting a round ball - that's for LOSERS. Just stating facts - both teams are BAD and one (OSU) has no hope anytime soon because they are stuck with a sucky coach because of a STUPID move by their athletic director.

 

[Vinny78]

OSU won today and is playing much better than OU in conference play. I don't see the point of insulting OSU at this point.

Denver, I usually like reading your stuff as it seems to be thoughtful. Your forgot to let your synapses communicate on this one - OSU just 4 days ago were down 35 at Missouri and a week ago were down 35 at Kansas. This was before both retired their main guys for the night to let subs in . Is this the "Much Better" you are speaking of? They got KILLED at both places, slaughtered, and today beat a BAD non-Barnes like Texas squad. Hmmmmmm. and for the OSU poster who was talking about the 3 freshman and one sophmore on their team he obviously forgot that at one point today Texas had ALL 5 PLAYERS ON THE FLOOR WERE FRESHMAN, hmmmm.

 

[TheGimper]

Just because you have a ton of time to sit in front of your stupid computer has no relevance on your intelligence!!!!!!!!!!!

Studies have shown that an excessive use of exclamation points is often linked to cerebral struggles in individuals.

 

[HoHum]

Denver, I usually like reading your stuff as it seems to be thoughtful. Your forgot to let your synapses communicate on this one - OSU just 4 days ago were down 35 at Missouri and a week ago were down 35 at Kansas. This was before both retired their main guys for the night to let subs in . Is this the "Much Better" you are speaking of? They got KILLED at both places, slaughtered, and today beat a BAD non-Barnes like Texas squad. Hmmmmmm. and for the OSU poster who was talking about the 3 freshman and one sophmore on their team he obviously forgot that at one point today Texas had ALL 5 PLAYERS ON THE FLOOR WERE FRESHMAN, hmmmm.

Okay, so Texas has a bright future too, doesn't make OSU any more experienced if you compare them to another team.

 

[Dignon003]

OSU beat Texas with 7 players. 5 of which are in their first season of college ball at this level.

The nucleus of Brown, Brian Williams and Michael Cobbins is going to be special. Regarding the futurGetting some depth back, Olukemi, a solid post player D. Williams and Marcus Smart coming in all of the sudden next year looks pretty good.

There has never been a season under Ford that OSU didn't improve that season and that includes this one.

 

[yoshi]

Yoshi, huh? You eaten to many hot dogs? LOL
I don't "feel better" by commenting on 20 year olds shooting a round ball - that's for LOSERS. Just stating facts - both teams are BAD and one (OSU) has no hope anytime soon because they are stuck with a sucky coach because of a STUPID move by their athletic director.

LMAO. Yeah right man. Your post attempting to trash everything about the OSU basketball program shows up right as the final seconds tick off the clock as OSU beats Texas. Calling out any OSU fans that read this board not to even think about being excited about a win today, because there is no hope for the future. OU, on the other hand, has a bright future even though they just lost 6 in a row according to you. Yep, no sour grapes there. You aren't stating any "facts". Facts are that OU is not guaranteed to be a lock in the tourney from here on out just because Kruger is the coach. And OSU is far from doomed in the coming years. Like Dignon said, OSU is playing 5 freshman right now and Smart comes in next year. You're confusing wishful thinking with "facts".

 

[Sawyer]

OSU beat Texas with 7 players. 5 of which are in their first season of college ball at this level.

The nucleus of Brown, Brian Williams and Michael Cobbins is going to be special. Regarding the futurGetting some depth back, Olukemi, a solid post player D. Williams and Marcus Smart coming in all of the sudden next year looks pretty good.

There has never been a season under Ford that OSU didn't improve that season and that includes this one.

Getting better as the season progresses is nice.

It'd be better if that progression continued into the following season.

Ford has won fewer games than the previous year in each of his four seasons at OSU.

 

[TheGimper]

Getting better as the season progresses is nice.

It'd be better if that progression continued into the following season.

Ford has won fewer games than the previous year in each of his four seasons at OSU.

:clap

 

[GIA Stout]

Getting better as the season progresses is nice.

It'd be better if that progression continued into the following season.

Ford has won fewer games than the previous year in each of his four seasons at OSU.

He lost some great players off those teams including a Big 12 POY and next year will finally have a roster full of the guys he truly recruited and not just roster filler players. If you think next years roster wont win several more than this year at least then I dont know what to tell ya. Marcus Smart agrees.

D. Williams 6-8 SR
Jurick 6-11 SR
Olukemi 6-6 SR
Brown 6-3 JR
B. Williams 6-5 SO
Cobbins 6-8 SO
Guerrero 6-0 SO
Nash 6-7 SO
Smart 6-4 FR

After losing JPO its crazy how inexperienced we were this season outside of Page. I never tooted the horn on this team pre-season and rightfully so but Im excited about that possible nucleas next year now that we will have more than 2 guys that had more than zero D1 experience prior to a season.

OU should be much improved as well no doubt. It would not surprise me to see both bounce back and make the tourney.

 

[Sawyer]

Having a full roster five years into his tenure should be expected. His reliance on roster fillers, as you call them, is his own fault. Ford inherited a talented team and did little to build from that, signing zero quality recruits in his first two years.

OSU will likely be better next year, but there's still a glaring hole at the point. Without dramatic improvement there, you're still going to struggle finding relevance on the national level.

 

[StatGeek]

I cannot believe someone started this ****ty thread.

 

[hardwood]

I cannot believe someone started this ****ty thread.

I can't believe I just read this thread...:facepalm

 

[OSUFan]

Having a full roster five years into his tenure should be expected. His reliance on roster fillers, as you call them, is his own fault. Ford inherited a talented team and did little to build from that, signing zero quality recruits in his first two years.

OSU will likely be better next year, but there's still a glaring hole at the point. Without dramatic improvement there, you're still going to struggle finding relevance on the national level.

Im not trying to be an ass or anything or maybe you just forgot, but is Marcus Smart not good enough? Plays point for one of the best high school teams in the country

 

[DenverSooner]

How is D. Williams coming back next year? Wasn't he a senior this year that played in a few games and then got kicked off the team due to allegations of rape.

Do you even want him back? I get that he played well last year but I would think OSU is better off without guys that get in that kind of trouble. Personally, I think OSU is bigger than any individual and never needs to associate with bad actors (OU too). I don't know the facts surrounding this guy's story but I really can't imagine I would take him back if I were his coach.

 

[oSuJeff97]

I think any difference at this point is minimal. Both have different strengths/weaknesses.

Minimal? Come on.

OSU has double the number of conference victories and won comfortably the first time the two teams played.

I'm not saying OSU is a good team, because we're not. I'm just saying we're clearly better than OU at this point.

My point here is pretty much only that it's ridiculous for an OSU fan to crow about anything at this point. Ford's been at OSU for four years, and he's won fewer games each consecutive season. OU just dealt with two of its worst seasons in modern history and has a new coach, and as bad as things still are, they're better than they were. If either of the two teams is in position to boast about the future, I'd give that edge to OU.

Now you're talking in circles.

First off, nobody is "crowing" about anything. I was simply responding to the OP's assertion that OU is "heading in the right direction." There's no evidence right now that suggests that. In fact, it would appear that OU's general level of play has declined as the season has wore on.

In terms of the future, we'll see.

If I were comparing two young and thin teams and thinking about "the future", I think I would probably side with the team that has shown it can actually beat a few good teams.

Denver, I usually like reading your stuff as it seems to be thoughtful. Your forgot to let your synapses communicate on this one - OSU just 4 days ago were down 35 at Missouri and a week ago were down 35 at Kansas. This was before both retired their main guys for the night to let subs in . Is this the "Much Better" you are speaking of? They got KILLED at both places, slaughtered, and today beat a BAD non-Barnes like Texas squad. Hmmmmmm. and for the OSU poster who was talking about the 3 freshman and one sophmore on their team he obviously forgot that at one point today Texas had ALL 5 PLAYERS ON THE FLOOR WERE FRESHMAN, hmmmm.

Yeah - we lost big on the road to top 10 teams. We're not a good team. Nobody disputes that.

But we have at least beat a few good teams at home, which is more than OU can say. And we didn't lose to the worst team in the history of the Big 12 conference. So we do have that going for us.

Ford inherited a talented team and did little to build from that, signing zero quality recruits in his first two years.

Well he did go to the Tournament in his first two years, so he has that going for him.

And I agree that depth problem is his fault. His first recruiting class was without question a total bust.

That's the root cause for the mediocre play last year and this year. But I disagree that his second class included "zero quality recruits."

His second full class was Darrell Williams, J.P. Olukemi, Mike Cobbins, Brian Williams and Markel Brown.

Even with losing D. Williams, that is looking like an excellent class at this point. All five have shown the ability to play at a high level in the Big 12. Of course, Ford can't do anything about losing Olukemi for the season to injury.

Last year's class was Jurick, Gurerro and Nash. All three are contributing in their first season.

Of course next year Marcus Smart and Phil Forte are coming.

So yes, Ford is to blame for having his first recruiting class bust that killed the past two seasons, but it does appear that he righted the ship with subsequent classes, and I think you'll start to see that pay big dividends next year and beyond.

 

[Dignon003]

Darrell Wiliams accusations were during his Junior year, the day after he had his best game as a cowboy in last January's Bedlam win. He was suspended last season and is red shirting this season to resolve those issues.

If he's exonerated he could return for his senior season.

 

[PasoPoke]

Just look at the roster of both teams and the recruits coming in next year and objectively ask yourself who would you rather have returning.

Grooms Sr., Pledger Sr., Fitzgerald Sr., Newell Jr., Blair Sr., Neal Jr., Clark Jr., MBaye Sr., Osby Sr., Arent Sr., Hornbeak Fr., Hield Fr.

Olukemi Sr., Guerrero So., Nash So., B. Williams So., Soucek So., Sager So., Cobbins So., Brown Jr., Jurick Sr., D. Williams, Sr., Smart Fr., Forte, Fr., Murphy, Fr.

OU will have a senior heavy team but it looks like OSU will return more talent and I don't see any recruit for OU that compares to Smart.

I think OU will benefit from having a year with a good coach but it's going to take a couple of years for Kruger to get his guys into place.

 

[WTSooner]

And any OSU fan that doesn't think they will miss Page, is crazy.

It may take OU a couple more seasons to catch OSU, but I'd bet a lot of money that in 3-4 years, OU is in better shape. Heck, Ford might not even be the OSU coach at that point.

 

[PasoPoke]

Did someone actually say Page wouldn't be missed?

It's just that OSU has played 6 freshman this year so they will have 9 players sophomore or younger and 11 players juniors or younger next year. The upside is very high.

Good players graduate, the young players and recruits have to step up.