Lots of good points in what you have posted here, Norm.
I am amazed that Gabbi was the point guard for the International Team that won a gold medal but can't seem to do that for us. I think the key is they asked her to run the team not score. She scored very little last summer. Much like Blair is asking of his pg. We seem to want her to do everything. Manage the team, score with drives, hit lots of 3's, etc. That is not her skill set.
The problem is mainly that Little has disappeared from scoring. She can't hit anything - even when open. That may come later but it is not certain. So we are asking others to score - even though they struggle at crunch time. That is where A&M had an edge over us last night. They have 2 players who can score pretty effectively. We have only one this year - only KK hits a really good percentage of her shots (admitting that on one occasion last night she literally threw it over the entire rim - but I can take that occasionally since she hits such a high percentage).
Once KK leaves the game, we drop so far off in our ability to control the inside..... I like Vivi, but she simply cannot control things for an extended period. She plays too soft and moves too slow. She does hit an occasional really nice shot - and my hope is that with another year of healing she may really step up her game.
Now as to Maddie. I'm frustrated but not ready to give up. I thought at one moment last night that she might be ready to put us on her back and take it to the next level - but then she quit shooting. Think about OSU's leading scorer. She scores by shooting tons of shots. She typically shoots about 7 of 24 or so. Then with a few free throws has 20+ points. Sherri needs to tell Maddie - "I want you to take at least 20 shots every game". It may not work, but what we are doing is not going to work well against teams with lots of height.
And it is far better than letting TT run inside and throw the ball away. I'm sure that frustrates Sherri too, but she seems to think "it didn't work that time, but surely it will next time so I will not put a stop to it". Well, I can assure you that it is NOT going to work next time either. It's just going to be another turnover in effect - even though it gets recorded as a missed shot.
Brittany Martin is 100 of 192 from the field for a .521 FG%. Averaging 24.3 p/g. Maddie is shooting 34 of 96 for .395 from the field for 9.4 p/g.
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syb,
No one gets excuses. I don't care what excuses UT fans throw out. Certainly not someone getting 800k a year.
Gioya COULD be a missing piece. I hope so. She not Maddie was the
best player on the team for a ten game stretch last year.
There's no ledge, there's no hyperbole in anything I said.
You just don't like it.
Answer this one question, what annual level of performance do you expect from
women's hoops?
Based on your answer is OU achieving or underachieving at that performance level?
To me, OU should be competing for conference regular season titles every year and winning at least one title in a four year cycle.
OU should also get a tourney bid every year and once in that 4 year cycle make a deep tourney run (elite eight). All while avoiding NCAA issues and posting a high NCAA APR.
That's the standard Sherri set. I don't think it's unrealistic.
in the last 4 year cycle.
no titles conference or tourney (and atm left during this stretch weakening the conference
considerably).
and last year was really the only year OU was competing with Baylor for the conference title.
not a single deep tourney run.
No NCAA issues and the APR has been excellent (that's more of a trailing score but it's the only metric out there)
Manning discussion just needs to be tabled until season end. Data will tell the tale on where that question is trending.
syb,
No one gets excuses. I don't care what excuses UT fans throw out. Certainly not someone getting 800k a year.
Gioya COULD be a missing piece. I hope so. She not Maddie was the
best player on the team for a ten game stretch last year.
There's no ledge, there's no hyperbole in anything I said.
You just don't like it.
Answer this one question, what annual level of performance do you expect from
women's hoops?
Based on your answer is OU achieving or underachieving at that performance level?
To me, OU should be competing for conference regular season titles every year and winning at least one title in a four year cycle.
OU should also get a tourney bid every year and once in that 4 year cycle make a deep tourney run (elite eight). All while avoiding NCAA issues and posting a high NCAA APR.
That's the standard Sherri set. I don't think it's unrealistic.
in the last 4 year cycle.
no titles conference or tourney (and atm left during this stretch weakening the conference
considerably).
and last year was really the only year OU was competing with Baylor for the conference title.
not a single deep tourney run.
No NCAA issues and the APR has been excellent (that's more of a trailing score but it's the only metric out there)
Manning discussion just needs to be tabled until season end. Data will tell the tale on where that question is trending.
Great post! I think your expectations are very reasonable.
Sherri's guaranteed compensation is $1,100,000 plus bonuses which is about $500,000 more than anyone else in the conference not at Baylor or TCU as their information is not subject to the public information act due to there being private schools. Almost assuredly Kim is making more than Sherri but who knows.
http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/col...cks-up-against-karen-aston-bill-fennelly-more
http://newsok.com/article/4957825
I have a bit more pride in what has been accomplished than some. When Geno made the comment that Sherri was what women's basketball should be about, I think that also spoke for the University of Oklahoma as a program and reflected on the University of Oklahoma as an institution. It is difficult to argue with what he said, and I didn't see much disagreement. I wonder if he was also considering his own highly-successful program when he made that statement. Could it be possible that while being the dominant winner in women's basketball that he could have admiration for a program that he wished that he could emulate?syb,
Answer this one question, what annual level of performance do you expect from
women's hoops?
Based on your answer is OU achieving or underachieving at that performance level?
To me, OU should be competing for conference regular season titles every year and winning at least one title in a four year cycle.
OU should also get a tourney bid every year and once in that 4 year cycle make a deep tourney run (elite eight). All while avoiding NCAA issues and posting a high NCAA APR.
That's the standard Sherri set. I don't think it's unrealistic.
in the last 4 year cycle.
no titles conference or tourney (and atm left during this stretch weakening the conference
considerably).
and last year was really the only year OU was competing with Baylor for the conference title.
not a single deep tourney run.
No NCAA issues and the APR has been excellent (that's more of a trailing score but it's the only metric out there)
j2d2,
Bob used to be pretty disengaged from recruiting. Relying upon his key assistants.
It worked well from 2000 to 2008
Recruiting changed in 2007/2008, and continued to evolve.
Social media exploded in 2010, OU got sloppy, lazy recruiting by some assistants. Bob made a terrible hire at OL coach. Made a mistake promoting Heupel. Didn't react to changes that no longer allowed him to have strong recruiters/weak position coaches.
Sherri's got to continually change/upgrade her recruiting practices. Talent acquisition is
vital especially in women's hoops where difference makers pretty much rule the game.
She needs to get on Twitter with a big presence. Needs to start "recruiting" encouraging
OU fans to create Twitter media content.
There should be Vines of OU women's highlights every game.
The state of OU's women's social media efforts are archaic.
OU fans should know via Twitter who OU is recruiting and when they are visiting.
There's a passionate OU women's hoops fanbase that can help.
Lon's tapped into it.
Excellent! The problem I foresee is, it's highly unlikely that Sherri is going to make changes to her staff or start using social media to her advantage.
Guys, you are living in the dark ages ranting about Twitter. Visit a few college campuses. Twitter is losing it's attraction to kids. On the LHN recently they asked the Texas players what their favorite social media tool was. Few - I believe only one - emphasized twitter. Middle age - and older folks are migrating to twitter - and think it is the do all end all. Young people are moving on to much better formats.
Read what Bob says. He doesn't use any social media personally - and does not intend to start. Assistants do that for him. Whether a head coach personally taps around on social media is not an issue. Recruiting is very hard work. Coaches are very busy. They are not sitting at their desks tapping out tweets all day. Think about it.
I think Sherri has made some attempts to improve the program. Injuries have cost her a couple of key players who could have helped. Whitney looked like a world-beater as a freshman. Maddie did for three games. Then, we lost both twice.syb,
great comments about Sherri. Don't disagree with a single character or past performance stuff. Facts don't lie. Sherri's been a great coach.
Now, Answer the question stated in my post.
2015-2016 and moving forward.
What are your expectations for Sooner hoops program?
For Bob/Football
OU should compete/win a Big 12 title every year.
In a 4 year cycle, OU should win at least 2 Big 12 titles, and make at least one legitimate
run at the college football playoff.
Maintain improve APR to avoid loss scholarships.
Avoid major NCAA problems.
For a 4 year cycle Bob was not meeting expectations and needed to make changes.
Significant changes especially in staff and recruiting approach were made and are paying
off.
He's now setup to maybe make a run similar to 2000 to 2004.
Again Bob established this standard/expectation.
For Lon/men's hoops.
OU should earn a tourney bid every year.
In a 4 year cycle, compete for a Big 12 title. Win a conference tourney championship.
In a 4 year cycle, make a deep tourney run (elite eight).
NO NCAA problems.
Maintain improve APR to avoid loss of scholarships.
Billy and Kelvin set the bar here long ago.
Capel failed these expectations in numerous areas and was appropriately fired.
Our players use Twitter. Our recruits use Twitter. Karen Aston uses Twitter.
The point is not whether someone is using Twitter. It is still fairly popular. But it is being overrun by other forms of social media. Like I said spend some time on a college campus. It is amazing how fast things are changing.
"More mature" folks are slower to figure technology out and they finally start paying attention to one form. Then they think "this is what everyone is doing". But kids are always looking for the "next best thing". To keep up you have to watch all of it. Not just twitter. I bet lots of our players and recruits are using several forms of social media other than twitter.
I really doubt Cox's decision to go to Baylor instead of OU was not due to the # of tweets made by Kim and Sherri.
The point is not whether someone is using Twitter. It is still fairly popular. But it is being overrun by other forms of social media. Like I said spend some time on a college campus. It is amazing how fast things are changing.
"More mature" folks are slower to figure technology out and they finally start paying attention to one form. Then they think "this is what everyone is doing". But kids are always looking for the "next best thing". To keep up you have to watch all of it. Not just twitter. I bet lots of our players and recruits are using several forms of social media other than twitter.
I really doubt Cox's decision to go to Baylor instead of OU was not due to the # of tweets made by Kim and Sherri.
