OU vs. ISU on paper

[thebigabd]

Who ya got?

PG: Carl Blair
SG: Cade Davis
SF: Cameron Clark
PF: CJ Washington
C: Andrew Fitzgerald

ISU
PG: Diante Garrett
-Averaged 9.5 points, 5.1 assists, 2.5 rebounds per game. his 416 career assists ranks eighth all-time in school history...led the team in steals with 40...has 98 steals in his career to rank 18th in school history.

SG: Jake Anderson (6'2'' 205)
-Started three years at Northern Illinois where he amassed 1,152 points, the 18th-best total in school history. Averaged 17 ppg at Northern Illinois as a sophomore and 10.9 as a junior. Averaged 5.5 rebounds.

SF: Melvin Ejim (6'6'' 215)
-Averaged 13.1 points, 7.5 rebounds and 3.0 steals en route to earning New Hampshire’s Gatorade Player of the Year honors last season for the #1 prep team in the nation.

PF: Royce White (6'8'' 250)
-One of the top players in the Class of 2009...ranked No. 19 and No. 2 small forward in the final Rivals.com ratings of 2009...Scout.com ranked him as the 10th-best power forward...was one of 20 preps invited to play in the prestigious Jordan Brand All-Star game in 2009. Had offers from Arkansas, Illinois, Michigan State, USC and Wisconsin.

C: Jamie Vanderbeken (6'11'' 250)
-ISU’s top reserve in the post, averaging 5.5 points and 3.0 rebounds in 31 games...named to the Kansas City Star’s Big 12 All-Newcomer team...led ISU in 3-point percentage, making 35-of-86 shots (40.7 percent) from beyond the arc...averaged 6.3 points in Big 12 play...second on the team in blocks with 21...made 23 of his 35 treys in the last 14 games.

 

[Sam]

Has White got his waiver yet?
Also can you enlighten me on Anderson's situation and how he is going to be eligible this year?
Is Vanderbeken going to be ok after sitting the majority of last year with an injury?

 

[sys]

Has White got his waiver yet?

no. and very few people expect him to get one.

their new juco guard will get lots of minutes. and their returning 2 will as well.

 

[JBaker]

How/why did Anderson transfer from another D-1 school after being a 3-year starter?

 

[thebigabd]

Has White got his waiver yet?

Not that I have heard....

Also can you enlighten me on Anderson's situation and how he is going to be eligible this year?

He graduated and received a waiver from the NCAA to play at ISU right away.

Is Vanderbeken going to be ok after sitting the majority of last year with an injury?

“It’s hard to find a lot of 6-11 guys who can space the floor like Jamie can,” Hoiberg said. “He is going to be a big part of our offense. A guy like Jamie can stand out there and drive big guys away from the basket. I am going to use him in a lot of pick and pop situations. He had some unfortunate injuries last year and he is 100 percent healthy right now.”

How/why did Anderson transfer from another D-1 school after being a 3-year starter?

Not sure, but he was a good player and should be good for ISU right away.

They expect this Ejim kid to be pretty good. He was the best player for the best prep team in the country,

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aladf1ZCqxE[/ame]

If White gets his waiver and can play, ISU could be a little better than the experts think. They would probably have more talent than OU, at least on paper pre-season.

 

[boksooner]

I'm sure that an ex-player that has never coached a day of college basketball will instantly turn ISU into a good team.

 

[thebigabd]

I'm sure that an ex-player that has never coached a day of college basketball will instantly turn ISU into a good team.

Bobby Lutz has 400 head coaching wins and won 3 league championships at Charlotte, he is the #1 assistant. I am sure he will be doing a lot of the coaching.

 

[Seymore Cox]

Is this what it's come to? Have we fallen so far to where we're compared to ISU? I'd rather shoot up than down.

 

[Sam]

Can you provide an article saying where Anderson has got that wavier yet (or indicating he is expected to get one)? I didn't see one when I was looking at who the heck he was.

Also, Will Barton (top 15 guy, was going to Memphis before being inelligible) and C.J. Fair (top 100 kid, going to Syracue) were on Brewster so I would consider them both better than Eljim.

 

[thebigabd]

Can you provide an article saying where Anderson has got that wavier yet (or indicating he is expected to get one)? I didn't see one when I was looking at who the heck he was.

Also, Will Barton (top 15 guy, was going to Memphis before being inelligible) and C.J. Fair (top 100 kid, going to Syracue) were on Brewster so I would consider them both better than Eljim.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2010-05-21-1144628226_x.htm?csp=34sports

http://www.cyclones.com//ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10700&ATCLID=204949239

 

[sys]

They expect this Ejim kid to be pretty good. He was the best player for the best prep team in the country,

brewster may have been the best prep team, but ejim was hardly their best player.

 

[NickZepp]

If our expectations are so low that we are comparing ourselves to Iowa State right now, that is just really, really sad at how far our program has fallen the last 5 years.

 

[NickZepp]

Is this what it's come to? Have we fallen so far to where we're compared to ISU? I'd rather shoot up than down.

Sorry I didn't see your post before I posted mine. This thread really shouldn't exist.

 

[Edmond_Sooner]

Threads like this are great for debate, but i can tell it is not going to be a fun year to post on this board...it's gonna be pile on time for the doubters...

 

[thebigabd]

Sorry I didn't see your post before I posted mine. This thread really shouldn't exist.

You don't like conference previews and matchups of opponents during the summer? Man, tough crowd.

 

[NickZepp]

You don't like conference previews and matchups of opponents during the summer? Man, tough crowd.

I'm just saying we shouldn't be comparing to Iowa State, or Colorado, or Nebraska. We should be comparable to Texas, Kansas, Baylor, A&M near the top of the conference.

 

[boksooner]

If our expectations are so low that we are comparing ourselves to Iowa State right now, that is just really, really sad at how far our program has fallen the last 5 years.

5 years? You mean 1 year. This type of thread didn't exist before last year's disaster, or did you forget that we are 17 months removed from an Elite 8 appearance.?

 

[NickZepp]

True, although our expectations going into Capel's first couple of years weren't that high. And I don't think anyone really knew how good our elite 8 team was till it started going. We knew Blake would be good, just not all player of year type good, and we didn't know exactly how good those role players for that team were. We still probably don't have role players half as good as we had that year.

 

[thebigabd]

5 years? You mean 1 year. This type of thread didn't exist before last year's disaster, or did you forget that we are 17 months removed from an Elite 8 appearance.?

Given the record without Blake, I think some fans have a big fat * on that season by way of having the National Player of the Year and #1 pick in the NBA draft.

Of course, that has been argued and debated to death around here.

 

[boksooner]

Given the record without Blake, I think some fans have a big fat * on that season by way of having the National Player of the Year and #1 pick in the NBA draft.

Of course, that has been argued and debated to death around here.

Yes it has. You obviously assume that Blake coached himself and Capel deserves zero credit, so we might as well move on.