Poor FT shooting is all on Kruger

I know it wouldn't happen that often, but Osby, M'Baye, Clark, Pledger and Grooms would be fun to watch in spurts.

Why wouldn't that happen often? If Cam gets his head screwed on right, that may be the starting lineup next year.
 
we've been a good FT team all year(overall) which indicates that Kruger has put proper emphasis on fts.To blame OUr atrocious ft shooting last nite on Lon is asinine.
 
Why wouldn't that happen often? If Cam gets his head screwed on right, that may be the starting lineup next year.

Because everyone who has seen M'Baye play in practice says that he goes with the wings. Personally I'd love to see what those five guys could do together out there in spurts.
 
Because everyone who has seen M'Baye play in practice says that he goes with the wings. Personally I'd love to see what those five guys could do together out there in spurts.

Trust me, M'Baye will get plenty of minutes inside. On a normal team, I'd say he'd get all his minutes inside. But since we don't know what we have at the 3 position next year, I've conceded that he may get some minutes out there out of necessity.

Think of it this way.....people thought Osby would play on the wing. After seeing him.....after seeing the way the 4th Mizzou guard abused him last night (I know he was sick), would you really want to see Osby starting on the wing? And don't base this on how bad Cam has played. :)
 
Trust me, M'Baye will get plenty of minutes inside. On a normal team, I'd say he'd get all his minutes inside. But since we don't know what we have at the 3 position next year, I've conceded that he may get some minutes out there out of necessity.

Think of it this way.....people thought Osby would play on the wing. After seeing him.....after seeing the way the 4th Mizzou guard abused him last night (I know he was sick), would you really want to see Osby starting on the wing? And don't base this on how bad Cam has played. :)

Put me in the camp that knew from the jump that Osby was going to be a "4" at OU and I never thought he'd see significant time on the wing if for no other reason that I thought that Cam and either Pledger or Newell would be the "wings" on this team. I still think he has the ability to create mismatches on the perimeter, and has done that effectively at times this season.

That being said, I'm confident that Osby could replicate and probably do better than Cam has done at SF, but I think that he is optimal where he is at for the reasons you said. That is where I just don't see a guy that is evidently practicing on the wing [M'Baye] being thrown inside and I can't see where we'd go for long without Fitz in there.

We'll see, but barring injury there are only two players that are guaranteed to "start" next year and that is Pledger and Osby.
 
Put me in the camp that knew from the jump that Osby was going to be a "4" at OU and I never thought he'd see significant time on the wing if for no other reason that I thought that Cam and either Pledger or Newell would be the "wings" on this team. I still think he has the ability to create mismatches on the perimeter, and has done that effectively at times this season.

That being said, I'm confident that Osby could replicate and probably do better than Cam has done at SF, but I think that he is optimal where he is at for the reasons you said. That is where I just don't see a guy that is evidently practicing on the wing [M'Baye] being thrown inside and I can't see where we'd go for long without Fitz in there.

We'll see, but barring injury there are only two players that are guaranteed to "start" next year and that is Pledger and Osby.

I agree with all of this, not that it means much. :ez-laugh:
 
Not coaches fault, but if I were him that team especially the first 6 would have gone to the practice gym and shot free throws for the entire half time. Thats all they needed to know.
 
I've played basketball my whole life and have missed plenty of free throws. Not once did the thought of "oh, I missed those because Coach So and So didn't make us shoot FT's in practice" cross my mind. Free throws are about repetition mainly on your own and being right, mentally. It's up to the players, not the coaches, to make the shots. Plain and simple.

I'm convinced BOB has never been anywhere near a basketball court in his life...:facepalm
 
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Here's one for the Iowa State game:

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I don't see Fitz, or Osby going anywhere. So it has to be Clark.

Osby can't transfer. He would have lose a year if he goes to a D-1 school and that means no more college ball.

Fitzgerald isn't going anywhere. He didn't leave last year and he is playing better this year. Fitzgerald has a chance to be one of the top 25 all time scorers at OU. That is a huge accomplishment and it would be foolish to transfer. Andrew is averaging 13.5 on the season. There are a minimum of 8 games left. That is an additional 108 points this season. If OU gets to the post season or wins a Big XII Tournament game he can score even more this year. Soonerstats has him at 824 and I don't know how recent that is. If you assume it is current and he continues to average 13.5 in just 8 games, he will be at 932 after three years. OU will play at least 30 games next season. If he averages 13.5 that is 405 points. That would put him at 1338 and just behind Mookie Blaylock at number 18 all time. (It should be noted Pledger will likely be ahead of him so he will actually be number 19.) Anyone that is not impressed with a guy being a top 20 all time scorer is nuts.

I also don't think Clark is going anywhere. He is getting plenty of playing time and grew up in North Texas. He is close to home and has friends at OU. I don't understand why people would say things like this when they likely have no idea what they are talking about.

Blair can't really transfer. Grooms can't really transfer. Who wants a guy with one year of eligibility. Neal grew up in OKC, why would he leave.
 
I've played basketball my whole life and have missed plenty of free throws. Not once did the thought of "oh, I missed those because Coach So and So didn't make us shoot FT's in practice" cross my mind. Free throws are about repetition mainly on your own and being right, mentally. It's up to the players, not the coaches, to make the shots. Plain and simple.

I'm convinced BOB has never been anywhere near a basketball court in his life...:facepalm

You are so cool.
 
"Practice makes perfect" - sure but if you practice doing thngs wrong, you just get better at it.
 
Spending considerable practice time on free throws is not time well spent given the practice limitations that are in place by the NCAA. Free throws is an individual activity, therefore not on the coach.
 
Spending considerable practice time on free throws is not time well spent given the practice limitations that are in place by the NCAA. Free throws is an individual activity, therefore not on the coach.

Respectfully disagree. There is a LOT to free throw shooting technique. Doesn't take a lot of practice to learn to do it right. KU won a NC because their opponent missed like 5 or so in a row down the stretch.
 
Respectfully disagree. There is a LOT to free throw shooting technique. Doesn't take a lot of practice to learn to do it right. KU won a NC because their opponent missed like 5 or so in a row down the stretch.

If it were that simple, Shaq wouldn't have been a terrible FT shooter after all the work he put in.

I'm sure LK and the team put in more than enough FT practice. They had a bad day from the line. Nothing more.
 
Respectfully disagree. There is a LOT to free throw shooting technique. Doesn't take a lot of practice to learn to do it right. KU won a NC because their opponent missed like 5 or so in a row down the stretch.

Respectfully disagree...and Memphis was a bad free throw shooting teeam coming into the season.
 
If it were that simple, Shaq wouldn't have been a terrible FT shooter after all the work he put in.

I'm sure LK and the team put in more than enough FT practice. They had a bad day from the line. Nothing more.

If you're technique is correct, you should NEVER have a "bad day" from the line. Hell, there is no one even guarding you.
 
If you're technique is correct, you should NEVER have a "bad day" from the line. Hell, there is no one even guarding you.

A big part of free throw shooting is mental. It's a lot more than just technique.
 
Respectfully disagree...and Memphis was a bad free throw shooting teeam coming into the season.

Seems to me Calipari's teams are always bad FT teams, and the same used to be said of Roy Williams KU teams. Is that because they recruit bad FT shooters? Or is it because they don't put an emphasis on FT shooting?

To me, this is no different than a FG or XP in football. Some teams (OSU, Texas and Tech) seem to always have a good FG/XP kicker. Whereas OU seems to struggle in that dept more than the 3 aforementioned programs. Is that because the 3 former schools have good ST coaching or because they find better kickers? I'd say it's the former.

My whole reason for typing this thread was to point out LK isn't putting a big enough emphasis on FT shooting. When you miss that many and in multiple games this year we have missed FT's when we needed them. You can't make them all, I understand that, but this seems to be a pattern to me. Maybe I'm wrong.

I just don't buy it all falls on the player. Calipari and RW are proof of that.
 
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