Post depth

Unless he has exponentially improved since last year, would take a guy who has been in the program a couple years first.

not to be negitive about a player .. but cole has no business in a big 12 basktball team post rotation .. there is nothing he does even average at this level .. and he is very very short for a post
 
not to be negitive about a player .. but cole has no business in a big 12 basktball team post rotation .. there is nothing he does even average at this level .. and he is very very short for a post

Agree. Probably a great kid and good student, but if he is in the rotation we are in trouble.
 
Blake is nowhere near 6'10, maybe a little over 6'8 with shoes. His offensive game is not really finesse either. He can handle the ball and pass very well, so if that's what you mean then yes. However, when he's at his best in scoring the ball I'd have to say it's straight bullish. He's going to back you down or dunk on you when talking about his strengths. Now he is starting to be a better shooter and fadeaways in the post, but I don't consider him at his best when he's doing that.

you don't know what your talking about ..

at the nba combine he measured 6'8.5 with out shoes 6'10 with shoes ..
 
you don't know what your talking about ..

at the nba combine he measured 6'8.5 with out shoes 6'10 with shoes ..

I don't know what I'm talking about because I got his height wrong? Every game I watch he looks shorter than the guy he's going against so that's why I didn't think he was 6'10.
 
at the nba combine he (Blake Griffin) measured 6'8.5 without shoes 6'10 with shoes ...

I believe that. There has been a lot of questions about Blake's true height thru the years. I often hear about "wing-span" where someone's reach is much longer than their height. I don't think Blake has a particularly long wing-span for a 6'8.5" player.

Here's an article when he was drafted talking about his height. Daily Oklahoman article on Blake's true height
 
My educated guess is mcnease will RS even if thomas is ineligible.

Lattin and Bennett and cole and mankin hold down the fort
 
My educated guess is mcnease will RS even if thomas is ineligible.

Lattin and Bennett and cole and mankin hold down the fort

Are you sure you want to go into the season with the four players you listed as the back ups to Spangler? I'm perfectly comfortable with Lattin. He has already proven to be a big help to Ryan on the boards, plus he will give us another defender with size in the paint.

I thought Bennett would put my mind at ease, too. But, so far he has proven me wrong in my prediction when I said he would be "the most improved returning player on our roster." I may need to get out of the prediction business.

That brings me to Cole and Mankin. Let's assume for the moment that Spangler, Lattin and an "improved" Bennett are permanent fixtures in our rotation, with Cole and Mankin as the back ups. Where will we be if one of the top three post players in our rotation is injured? I think it's a gamble at best to rely on two players who have yet to prove they can play at the D-1 level.

That's why I don't think redshirting McNeace is a good idea, unless Thomas is eligible to play this year. I think we can all agree that Jamuni will benefit from a redshirt season to work on his game and to put a few pounds on his skinny frame. The question is, will that be the best for the team and for what could be a very nice season, even if Thomas can't play?

I say to heck with the redshirt. Throw Jamuni into the fray and let him use his 6' 10" frame and long arms to block and change shots. None of us really know how he will perform at this point. But I have more confidence in what he could "potentially" bring to the floor than anything I have seen with my own eyes from the other two. Besides, playing him now will be good experience that will only make him better next year. JMHO for whatever it's worth. Maybe nothing.
 
Are you sure you want to go into the season with the four players you listed as the back ups to Spangler? I'm perfectly comfortable with Lattin. He has already proven to be a big help to Ryan on the boards, plus he will give us another defender with size in the paint.

I thought Bennett would put my mind at ease, too. But, so far he has proven me wrong in my prediction when I said he would be "the most improved returning player on our roster." I may need to get out of the prediction business.

That brings me to Cole and Mankin. Let's assume for the moment that Spangler, Lattin and an "improved" Bennett are permanent fixtures in our rotation, with Cole and Mankin as the back ups. Where will we be if one of the top three post players in our rotation is injured? I think it's a gamble at best to rely on two players who have yet to prove they can play at the D-1 level.

That's why I don't think redshirting McNeace is a good idea, unless Thomas is eligible to play this year. I think we can all agree that Jamuni will benefit from a redshirt season to work on his game and to put a few pounds on his skinny frame. The question is, will that be the best for the team and for what could be a very nice season, even if Thomas can't play?

I say to heck with the redshirt. Throw Jamuni into the fray and let him use his 6' 10" frame and long arms to block and change shots. None of us really know how he will perform at this point. But I have more confidence in what he could "potentially" bring to the floor than anything I have seen with my own eyes from the other two. Besides, playing him now will be good experience that will only make him better next year. JMHO for whatever it's worth. Maybe nothing.

Agreed. Throw him in there! Anyone know if he's cleared medically for Sunday?
 
If Thomas isn't eligible and they redshirt McNeace this year, then Jumani is very unlikely to get much playing time next year. Imagine having Spangler, Thomas, Lattin (with a year of experience), Buford, and Manyang all available in the post next year. Who is McNeace going to beat out?

If Thomas can't play this year (along with Buford), we need all hands on deck for this year.
 
If Thomas isn't eligible and they redshirt McNeace this year, then Jumani is very unlikely to get much playing time next year. Imagine having Spangler, Thomas, Lattin (with a year of experience), Buford, and Manyang all available in the post next year. Who is McNeace going to beat out?

If Thomas can't play this year (along with Buford), we need all hands on deck for this year.

Excellent point and another reason why McNeace shouldn't redshirt if Thomas is not eligible. The experience he'll get this year will benefit him more than sitting out the season. If he is slow to develop and we're so deep in talent next year that he may not get to play much, we can still use a redshirt on him.
 
Excellent point and another reason why McNeace shouldn't redshirt if Thomas is not eligible. The experience he'll get this year will benefit him more than sitting out the season. If he is slow to develop and we're so deep in talent next year that he may not get to play much, we can still use a redshirt on him.

I think we have to play him this year if Thomas is not eligible. We can Red shirt McNease next year and then he will still have three to play with having 2 years with yo-yo. He will takes his lumps this year, but could be better for it in the long run
 
We are only 2 exhibition games into the season, but for me Bennett's play in those 2 was a big disappointment. Didn't show any improvement from last year.
 
We are only 2 exhibition games into the season, but for me Bennett's play in those 2 was a big disappointment. Didn't show any improvement from last year.

I hate to say it but if he can't hold his own against some d2 stiffs he has no shot against the big12.

I don't want to shut the door on him completely, because I think he can serve a purpose defensively, but his offense is painful to watch at this point.
 
i don't really .. but i have no faith in cj cole or mankin against big 12 bigs ..

Cole and Mankin don't need to be compared to the top 3 or 4 on any Big 12 team rotation, they need to be compared to players that rarely see the court. They are the 5th and 6th options are OU and if everyone was eligible they would be the 7th and 8th options.
 
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