Refs trying to make the tournament interesting?

[uberjamb]

I don't want to start a conspiracy theory or anything, but after watching a few of the games this year, including our game against VCU, I'm wondering if maybe the refs subconsciously do what they can to make sure the tournament is exciting. This UNI- A&M game is a good example. UNI had it in the bag, but some questionable calls let it go to overtime. A good example is something that drives me crazy: a trap with obvious fouling not called causing a turnover. I noticed in the VCU game that a lot of fouls weren't called until it was clear the OU player wasn't going to lose the ball. I feel like it makes the game cheap. Thoughts?

 

[califca]

I don't want to start a conspiracy theory or anything, but after watching a few of the games this year, including our game against VCU, I'm wondering if maybe the refs subconsciously do what they can to make sure the tournament is exciting. This UNI- A&M game is a good example. UNI had it in the bag, but some questionable calls let it go to overtime. A good example is something that drives me crazy: a trap with obvious fouling not called causing a turnover. I noticed in the VCU game that a lot of fouls weren't called until it was clear the OU player wasn't going to lose the ball. I feel like it makes the game cheap. Thoughts?

Shouldn't have come to a trap in the corner. They choked that last minute.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

They definitely choked but it wasn't just the trap. It was the phantom and 1 right before that too


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[uberjamb]

Oh, no doubt you don't pass to the corner in that situation, but it drives me insane when they don't call fouls on the trap.

 

[califca]

I would rather play A&M than Northern Iowa.

 

[inoref]

I don't want to start a conspiracy theory or anything, but after watching a few of the games this year, including our game against VCU, I'm wondering if maybe the refs subconsciously do what they can to make sure the tournament is exciting. This UNI- A&M game is a good example. UNI had it in the bag, but some questionable calls let it go to overtime. A good example is something that drives me crazy: a trap with obvious fouling not called causing a turnover. I noticed in the VCU game that a lot of fouls weren't called until it was clear the OU player wasn't going to lose the ball. I feel like it makes the game cheap. Thoughts?

NCAA basketball = WWE

 

[MercedeSooner]

I would rather play A&M than Northern Iowa.

Think you're crazy - Aggie size is going to give us problems.

 

[bgrch1350]

Think you're crazy - Aggie size is going to give us problems.

This is the sweet 16. Either team would give us trouble.

 

[MsProudSooner]

I can't comment on the last 90 seconds of regulation of UNI vs aTm because I left with 1:33 to go.

But, I did notice something in both of OU's games and the UNI vs aTm game tonight. In all 3 instances, the team that was ahead at halftime had lots more fouls called on them to start the second half than the team that was behind. On Friday, at one point in the second half, they had called 7 fouls on OU and 2 on Bakersfield. Tonight, I think it was nearly as bad. At one point tonight in the aTm vs UNI game, they had called 2 fouls on aTm and 8 on UNI. Weird.

 

[SoonerBred]

I can't comment on the last 90 seconds of regulation of UNI vs aTm because I left with 1:33 to go.

But, I did notice something in both of OU's games and the UNI vs aTm game tonight. In all 3 instances, the team that was ahead at halftime had lots more fouls called on them to start the second half than the team that was behind. On Friday, at one point in the second half, they had called 7 fouls on OU and 2 on Bakersfield. Tonight, I think it was nearly as bad. At one point tonight in the aTm vs UNI game, they had called 2 fouls on aTm and 8 on UNI. Weird.

I noticed this as well and do think they are consciously trying to even fouls up.

 

[uberjamb]

Yes, that's what I'm talking about. It's like they are trying to manufacture drama so almost every game has a crazy finish.

 

[tsou89]

The problem I see with the officiating is the number of fouls being called. Not necessarily who they're being called on. They're calling over 40 fouls in some games. They're definitely wanting to control the games. Impossible to get a good flow to the game with that many stoppages.

 

[campbest]

The problem I see with the officiating is the number of fouls being called. Not necessarily who they're being called on. They're calling over 40 fouls in some games. They're definitely wanting to control the games. Impossible to get a good flow to the game with that many stoppages.

That's how the NCAA, and specifically, the coaches voted it to be called.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

I have attended a lot of games this season, and it appears to me that games are officiated in The Dance consistent with how they were officiated in the regular season. The number of fouls and free throws does not seem any larger now than the numbers in January and February.

Look back at some box scores from the regular season and you will see what I mean.

Being at the games in OKC, I noticed that every fan base has fans that spend the entire game LOUDLY complaining about the officials ... Every fan base, although the A&M fans may be the worst at this.

Yesterday, I sat in the VCU section. According to their loud vocal expressions, OU should have been called for a foul on every possession.

There are good and bad calls made in every basketball game. The stakes are very high in The Dance and fan emotions are also high. IMHO, this causes these "conspiracy theories" about the referees.

 

[MsProudSooner]

That's how the NCAA, and specifically, the coaches voted it to be called.

Then it should be called that way throughout the season.

I think the inconsistency with the calls has been worse this year than I can ever remember. They can't expect the teams to adjust when it's called one way in game 3 and a completely different way in game 32.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

It seems if you get 5 basketball fans in a room, you will get 5 different opinions on the referees and the officiating. The word that comes to mind: subjective.

 

[152219]

My issue is consistency with the officiating, or the lack thereof.

 

[campbest]

Then it should be called that way throughout the season.

I think the inconsistency with the calls has been worse this year than I can ever remember. They can't expect the teams to adjust when it's called one way in game 3 and a completely different way in game 32.

No two games are alike, different personnel, styles, schemes, etc. If you look at the broader range of stats from this season, fouls and scoring are both up...which is what the rules are intended to do. Not going to be perfect, but it's definitely going the right direction.

 

[Zimwillett]

Then it should be called that way throughout the season.

I think the inconsistency with the calls has been worse this year than I can ever remember. They can't expect the teams to adjust when it's called one way in game 3 and a completely different way in game 32.

I listened to a podcast before the tournament wherein the NCAA head of officiating said they were going to put a big emphasis on calling the "freedom of movement" directives in the tournament. He all but said the officials had gotten too lax with it during conference play.

I don't like how it slows the games to a crawl, but the homer in me likes it because I think it actually benefits a free-flowing offense like OU's.

 

[MsProudSooner]

I listened to a podcast before the tournament wherein the NCAA head of officiating said they were going to put a big emphasis on calling the "freedom of movement" directives in the tournament. He all but said the officials had gotten too lax with it during conference play.

I don't like how it slows the games to a crawl, but the homer in me likes it because I think it actually benefits a free-flowing offense like OU's.

I agree in principal but they are still horribly inconsistent with it. On Friday, they called a foul on Christian James when a player stopped in front of him. James stopped and barely touched him. He didn't reach and there was no issue of James impeding his freedom of movement, but they called the foul anyway. Less that 2 minutes later, there was a similar play when we had the ball - no whistle was blown.