Sawyer/Mizzou

[SoonerBounce13]

Not when you have a college football mentality, which you do.

I don't necessarily agree the tournament champion is the true conference champion, but that's how it's recognized. I would agree with you that KU proved they were the best team over the course of an 18 game conference schedule, but they did lose to Baylor in the tournament.

To me, it's no different than the football team finishing the conference season undefeated in 2003, and then losing to KSU who had 2 or 3 conference losses in the championship game. OU proved they were the better team, but on that one night KSU won.

So in this post you pretty much agreed with everything I said. Thanks.

And in no way is my thinking on this subject considered a football mentality.

 

[Big Old Booger]

So in this post you pretty much agreed with everything I said. Thanks.

And in no way is my thinking on this subject considered a football mentality.

I agree with what you said (that KU proved they are the better team), but the big 12 conference recognizes Mizzou as the true conference champion.

This is where we seem to disagree.

 

[stoops4pres]

LOL @ them getting beat by a team that lost to Coppin State. Enjoy the SEC with your peers.

Missouri fits right in

Whoa, pump the brakes boca... not all Mississippi residents are THAT bad.

 

[stoops4pres]

I'm not mocking Kruger. He's a damn good coach.

I'd also like to congratulate you on paying $2 million+ to a coach who went to one final four 18 years ago (6-8 tournament record since then). I'm sure that four-game stretch two decades ago (including wins over 14, 11, 2 and 9 seeds) is reassuring going forward.

You have made some good points on here, but this wavering of your's is confusing.

By the way, his run at Florida isn't the only reason why it is logical to think Kruger is the right man for the job. He turned around UNLV as recently as a few years ago, in addition to a multitude of other reasons why he has earned the confidence of reassurance. But when he did reach the Final Four, he did it with one of the most abhorrent programs in the South at that time. Not to mention, Florida's first trip to the Final 4 was fresh off probation. You conveniently left those facts when putting his Final Four trip in perspective.

 

[WTSooner]

LK wasn't brought in here to get us to a FF, or to win a NC.

Jeff Capel nearly ruined our program. We had to bring in somebody that could fix it. Somebody that could be patient, and not try a quick fix that might bury our program even deeper. Somebody that could fix the relationships with area HS and AAU coaches that Capel severed.

I'm under no illusions that LK is going to get us to a FF in the next 5 years. But he'll build our program back to where it was (2nd in the Big 12 to only KU), which will make the job more attractive when LK decides to leave.

 

[Sawyer]

I'm under no illusions that LK is going to get us to a FF in the next 5 years. But he'll build our program back to where it was

I would agree with this.

Stoops4pres, like I said earlier in the thread, I'm not mocking Kruger. I'm mocking the exaggerations by some Oklahoma fans regarding his past and his likely future at OU. He'll get OU back into the tournament and build a program with some stability. He might, under the right circumstances, challenge for a conference title. But he isn't going to take OU to an elite level. Some of your fans act as if it's a sure thing that he will.

 

[bocabull]

Whoa, pump the brakes boca... not all Mississippi residents are THAT bad.

Ha ha. I know. The next week they did a film in NYC at the welfare line and it was just as funny on the other side.

 

[stoops4pres]

I would agree with this.

Stoops4pres, like I said earlier in the thread, I'm not mocking Kruger. I'm mocking the exaggerations by some Oklahoma fans regarding his past and his likely future at OU. He'll get OU back into the tournament and build a program with some stability. He might, under the right circumstances, challenge for a conference title. But he isn't going to take OU to an elite level. Some of your fans act as if it's a sure thing that he will.

I agree with this reasoning. I interpreted your initial comments in a different manner, but now that you clarified your stance I see where you are coming from.

 

[stoops4pres]

Ha ha. I know. The next week they did a film in NYC at the welfare line and it was just as funny on the other side.

Haha... Bill Maher is the man. Never a boring moment on his show.

 

[DenverSooner]

I would agree with this.

Stoops4pres, like I said earlier in the thread, I'm not mocking Kruger. I'm mocking the exaggerations by some Oklahoma fans regarding his past and his likely future at OU. He'll get OU back into the tournament and build a program with some stability. He might, under the right circumstances, challenge for a conference title. But he isn't going to take OU to an elite level. Some of your fans act as if it's a sure thing that he will.

Why won't he take OU to an elite level? One good recruiting class is all it akes to turn things around in college basketball.

Will OU win a national title under Kruger? Who knows but I am sure that is the goal of Kruger, Joe C and Boren. It might not be the only goal but it is a goal.

 

[Sawyer]

Why won't he take OU to an elite level? One good recruiting class is all it akes to turn things around in college basketball.

Will OU win a national title under Kruger? Who knows but I am sure that is the goal of Kruger, Joe C and Boren. It might not be the only goal but it is a goal.

I don't think he will because in 26 years as a head coach he's never done it (should clarify; he's been to a final four, but he didn't sustain Florida as an elite program, which is what I'm talking about).

He got to one final four 18 years ago. He tied for a conference title once at Illinois, but has never won one outright. He's about a .500 coach in the NCAA tournament.

There's nothing wrong with any of that. Most coaches can't say they've accomplished what he has. But one thing he's never done is build an elite program. He's built several pretty good ones.

It's possible that he does it at OU. Given what he's done over the previous three decades, though, I wouldn't bet on it. He's shown what he's capable of.

 

[playmakr]

Ha ha. I know. The next week they did a film in NYC at the welfare line and it was just as funny on the other side.

It was more deplorable and outrageous.