Sherri is VERY overpaid for her efforts lately.....

[stoopified]

Stoopified, you must not follow the women's game much. Many of Sherri's wins have come at home as the women can't draw away from a popular team. If Lon had played his games at home he would have alot better record and a few more final fours I believe. Lon has shown great success at 5 Universities, Sherri only one. I think if you watch the game, you can see Lon is OBVIOUSLY the much better coach, no brainer.

I have noearthly idea what you are talking and it is clear you don't either Sherri does have pud noncon slates like Tubbs,Sampson or Kruger set up,she plays top 10 every year,dodging nobody.You do realize this year ranked #6 SOS. If Sherri played cupcakes like many coaches male and female, she would have more wins.

Not enough postseason sucess? She has 24 NCAA tourney wins in 14 trips,OU's two winningest male coaches (Tubbs,Sampson) combined for 26 wins in 20 NCAA trips.Sherri Has 3 FF ,the same as Tubbs,Sampson combined.If Sherri is over paid how long does Lon have to win conference titles,get to FFs before he is run out of town as a hack.You might note Kruger has only 1 FF in his 30 +seasons.


Lon had the advantage of coaching at schools like Illinois,Florida,UNLV,K-State,and OU all of whom had good basketball long before Lon came along/Dp the names Hartman,Tarkanian,Henson,ring any bells? Sherri Coale took over a program which had just risen from the dead.OU's women had all-time record of 3-2 in NCAAs before Coale. IMHO any OU hoops fan should count their blessings that Sherri is here and will be for a long time. Anyone who does not see the truth in that should just pick their crackpipe back up and bliss out.

 

[garyeb2]

+1
There is a reason that I have these refugees from the men's board on Ignore. We welcome responsible posters from the men's board, but not sexists.

Coach K and John Wooden know more than about anyone they can name, and they knew what good coaching was, which is why Wooden preferred watching the women's game.

Hey Syb, go look out your window. I think the neighbor kids are playing on your lawn.

 

[sybarite]

I have noearthly idea what you are talking and it is clear you don't either Sherri does have pud noncon slates like Tubbs,Sampson or Kruger set up,she plays top 10 every year,dodging nobody.You do realize this year ranked #6 SOS. If Sherri played cupcakes like many coaches male and female, she would have more wins.

Not enough postseason sucess? She has 24 NCAA tourney wins in 14 trips,OU's two winningest male coaches (Tubbs,Sampson) combined for 26 wins in 20 NCAA trips.Sherri Has 3 FF ,the same as Tubbs,Sampson combined.If Sherri is over paid how long does Lon have to win conference titles,get to FFs before he is run out of town as a hack.You might note Kruger has only 1 FF in his 30 +seasons.


Lon had the advantage of coaching at schools like Illinois,Florida,UNLV,K-State,and OU all of whom had good basketball long before Lon came along/Dp the names Hartman,Tarkanian,Henson,ring any bells? Sherri Coale took over a program which had just risen from the dead.OU's women had all-time record of 3-2 in NCAAs before Coale. IMHO any OU hoops fan should count their blessings that Sherri is here and will be for a long time. Anyone who does not see the truth in that should just pick their crackpipe back up and bliss out.

+1

 

[Big Old Booger]

Sherri is 24-14 in NCAA play with 3 Final Fours,Lon is 14-14 with 1 Final Four.I tnink you better recheck as to who should give lessons and who should get them .

You are the same clown who supported Capel after he ran our program in the ground. Comparing women's basketball to men's is not a 1-to-1 comparison. The women's tournament has home games for the higher seeded teams is a huge difference.

 

[Big Old Booger]

Hey Syb, go look out your window. I think the neighbor kids are playing on your lawn.

He's too busy polishing his flute or cleaning out his sousaphone.

 

[garyeb2]

I have noearthly idea what you are talking and it is clear you don't either Sherri does have pud noncon slates like Tubbs,Sampson or Kruger set up,she plays top 10 every year,dodging nobody.You do realize this year ranked #6 SOS. If Sherri played cupcakes like many coaches male and female, she would have more wins.

Not enough postseason sucess? She has 24 NCAA tourney wins in 14 trips,OU's two winningest male coaches (Tubbs,Sampson) combined for 26 wins in 20 NCAA trips.Sherri Has 3 FF ,the same as Tubbs,Sampson combined.If Sherri is over paid how long does Lon have to win conference titles,get to FFs before he is run out of town as a hack.You might note Kruger has only 1 FF in his 30 +seasons.


Lon had the advantage of coaching at schools like Illinois,Florida,UNLV,K-State,and OU all of whom had good basketball long before Lon came along/Dp the names Hartman,Tarkanian,Henson,ring any bells? Sherri Coale took over a program which had just risen from the dead.OU's women had all-time record of 3-2 in NCAAs before Coale. IMHO any OU hoops fan should count their blessings that Sherri is here and will be for a long time. Anyone who does not see the truth in that should just pick their crackpipe back up and bliss out.

You know, the most fun thing about wasting time on basketball message boards is watching people like you get all twisted up trying to defend indefensible positions. Your argument is reciting Sherri's and the team's record. We can agree on the record. I live in Norman. I was here when she was the coach at NHS. I've been following along all this time. I know what the record is. Sherri has done a good job with the women's program.

However, Sherri has never done anything in her working life that even remotely qualifies her to coach men's div. 1 basketball. Her experience is in a different field, under different competitive environments, and in a game at a different stage of evolution. Nothing she has done is at all comparable with any accomplishment achieved in men's basketball

Patty Gasso has done a great job with the softball program. She is really good at running a women's softball program. But, I don't hear anyone trying to sell the argument that she is as good or better than any of the men's coaches at doing what they do. It is just a handful of you I have a crush on Sherri types that make with the crazy talk.

 

[Vinny78]

I have noearthly idea what you are talking and it is clear you don't either Sherri does have pud noncon slates like Tubbs,Sampson or Kruger set up,she plays top 10 every year,dodging nobody.You do realize this year ranked #6 SOS. If Sherri played cupcakes like many coaches male and female, she would have more wins.

Not enough postseason sucess? She has 24 NCAA tourney wins in 14 trips,OU's two winningest male coaches (Tubbs,Sampson) combined for 26 wins in 20 NCAA trips.Sherri Has 3 FF ,the same as Tubbs,Sampson combined.If Sherri is over paid how long does Lon have to win conference titles,get to FFs before he is run out of town as a hack.You might note Kruger has only 1 FF in his 30 +seasons.


Lon had the advantage of coaching at schools like Illinois,Florida,UNLV,K-State,and OU all of whom had good basketball long before Lon came along/Dp the names Hartman,Tarkanian,Henson,ring any bells? Sherri Coale took over a program which had just risen from the dead.OU's women had all-time record of 3-2 in NCAAs before Coale. IMHO any OU hoops fan should count their blessings that Sherri is here and will be for a long time. Anyone who does not see the truth in that should just pick their crackpipe back up and bliss out.

Stoop,

Uh, are these the teams you say Sherri Doesn't schedule? yes she did schedul three or four good teams out of conference but you are WRONG that she stacks her schedule. OU's strength of schedule is so strong because of the Big-12 FYI!!!!


2013/2014
Stetson
Sun, Nov 10 Wichita State
Thu, Nov 14 Gonzaga
Wed, Nov 20 UT Arlington
Sun, Dec 01 Creighton
Wed, Dec 04 Western Illinois
Sun, Dec 15 Maryland Eastern Shore
Wed, Dec 18 Fairfield
Sat, Dec 21 Marist
Sun, Dec 29 Samford

 

[bperrin1]

Seriously!!!!!?????

 

[Big Old Booger]

Stoop,



Uh, are these the teams you say Sherri Doesn't schedule? yes she did schedul three or four good teams out of conference but you are WRONG that she stacks her schedule. OU's strength of schedule is so strong because of the Big-12 FYI!!!!





2013/2014

Stetson

Sun, Nov 10 Wichita State

Thu, Nov 14 Gonzaga

Wed, Nov 20 UT Arlington

Sun, Dec 01 Creighton

Wed, Dec 04 Western Illinois

Sun, Dec 15 Maryland Eastern Shore

Wed, Dec 18 Fairfield

Sat, Dec 21 Marist

Sun, Dec 29 Samford

To be fair, Gonzaga and Marist are NCAA tourney regulars so those are good games. I think Creighton is decent too.

 

[Romulus]

Who is the top Sr girl in the state this year? And is she going to Oklahoma?

 

[Vinny78]

To be fair, Gonzaga and Marist are NCAA tourney regulars so those are good games. I think Creighton is decent too.

They play in bad conferences. Hard to say they are good just because they get in. Marist HAS been fairly good in the past but Gonzaga and Creighton are better than some of the dogs listed buy nothing to be proud of.

Bottom line is that Sherri DOES schedule dogs.

 

[SoonerNorm]

Who is the top Sr girl in the state this year? And is she going to Oklahoma?

I could not tell you who the top recruit is. I do know we have Williams coming this fall from Northeast High School.

http://ouhoops.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=12

 

[badger]

And almost ALL women's coaches couldn't make it in the men's game bty. Not a sexist statement (as many women's teams have MEN as coaches) just a fact.

I really just think this is a reflection of society. For the first 200+ years, our presidents, Congress, governors, etc. were all male, usually just white males, and they tended to be older and stayed in those positions longer than they do these days.

You're starting to see more minorities, more women, more younger people, etc. in these elected leadership positions now. I'm not sure when you'll see women coaching men in D-1 college basketball, but I am sure that it will happen.

Bottom line is that Sherri DOES schedule dogs

From an all sports perspective, I think there's more reason than "they're an easy opponent" to schedule someone. When we scheduled the football home-and-home with Tennessee, it seemed like Phil Fulmer was stealing a lot of our state's top recruits, for example.

Comparing women's basketball to men's is not a 1-to-1 comparison. The women's tournament has home games for the higher seeded teams is a huge difference

There are other differences as well. For example, the WNBA does not accept early entrants, unlike the NBA's infamous one-and-done. However, I think more than any other college sports, you'll see more partnership between the two programs at a school, as they often use the same facilities, for example.

Who is the top Sr girl in the state this year? And is she going to Oklahoma?

I hope this is a question that our coaches ask every year. It seemed to be a question that our football coaches asked this last recruiting season (boy, not girl, heh) and the end result was Jenks' Steven Parker is coming here instead of Texas A&M.

While some of this discussion here seems to be of tone and topic that would likely make some people upset or offended, I think there's a lot of fair points brought up here. I'm definitely open to discuss

 

[gosooner2]

Been following this board for a long time this thread has digressed into the most ridiculous bunch of comments I believe I have ever seen. Some of you are just plain bat s--- crazy. You would be just as well off debating the mating habits of a tree frog vs. a buffalo. I am not happy with our recent results but sherri deserves the opportunity to fix it, quickly.

 

[Big Old Booger]

Been following this board for a long time this thread has digressed into the most ridiculous bunch of comments I believe I have ever seen. Some of you are just plain bat s--- crazy. You would be just as well off debating the mating habits of a tree frog vs. a buffalo. I am not happy with our recent results but sherri deserves the opportunity to fix it, quickly.

Not sure to whom you are referring but your last sentence is right. I think most people in this thread are saying exactly that. As much as she makes she needs to get it fixed and if that includes saying bon voyage to her assistants then so be it. Bob did it for the good of the football program even though one of his assistants was his best man.

 

[Big Old Booger]

Coach K is on record as saying top women's bball coaches (and he mentioned Sherri by name )could coach men.

This really has no bearing on anything but if you are going to quote him then you need to provide a link to the quote. Otherwise you are just pulling this out of your b-hole as usual.

 

[Romulus]

I could not tell you who the top recruit is. I do know we have Williams coming this fall from Northeast High School.

http://ouhoops.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=12

With a quick google search it is Jessica Washington. 5 star pg from Jenks going to......North Carolina

 

[garyeb2]

I really just think this is a reflection of society. For the first 200+ years, our presidents, Congress, governors, etc. were all male, usually just white males, and they tended to be older and stayed in those positions longer than they do these days.

You're starting to see more minorities, more women, more younger people, etc. in these elected leadership positions now. I'm not sure when you'll see women coaching men in D-1 college basketball, but I am sure that it will happen.



From an all sports perspective, I think there's more reason than "they're an easy opponent" to schedule someone. When we scheduled the football home-and-home with Tennessee, it seemed like Phil Fulmer was stealing a lot of our state's top recruits, for example.



There are other differences as well. For example, the WNBA does not accept early entrants, unlike the NBA's infamous one-and-done. However, I think more than any other college sports, you'll see more partnership between the two programs at a school, as they often use the same facilities, for example.



I hope this is a question that our coaches ask every year. It seemed to be a question that our football coaches asked this last recruiting season (boy, not girl, heh) and the end result was Jenks' Steven Parker is coming here instead of Texas A&M.

While some of this discussion here seems to be of tone and topic that would likely make some people upset or offended, I think there's a lot of fair points brought up here. I'm definitely open to discuss

You are conflating the argument just a bit. I haven't said that women aren't qualified to coach men's basketball. I don't think anyone else has said that.

What I am saying is that no matter the accomplishments of a women's basketball coach ( male or female) neither their skills or the accomplishments are easily transferable to the men's game.

The argument is with the yard birds that state Sherri's record and then state Kruger's record and then claim that Sherri, based on those records, is the better or more knowledgeable and more accomplished coach.

I call BS on that argument and question the reasoning power of those presenting it. It is not a sexist argument. It is a bright bulb vs dim bulb argument.

 

[SoonerNorm]

With a quick google search it is Jessica Washington. 5 star pg from Jenks going to......North Carolina

Jessica is a freshman at UNC right now.

 

[gosooner2]

Not sure to whom you are referring but your last sentence is right. I think most people in this thread are saying exactly that. As much as she makes she needs to get it fixed and if that includes saying bon voyage to her assistants then so be it. Bob did it for the good of the football program even though one of his assistants was his best man.

How much she makes is really irrelevant. Decosta did not make much, she was just apparently a bad head coach. Results or lack there of are the measurement. Sherri has had good results and her salary went up. In coaching as well as business if the results start to slide they don't cut your salary you just get let go.