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I loved Huggins' halftime interview. He's kind of the college version of Greg Popovich. Is he penalizing Staten for something? It was a very quick "no" answer to the question about maybe seeing Staten in an emergency.

Staten and Brown have been out with an injury the past few games. This is the first time Staten has not been in street clothes. The "emergency" comment meant that Huggins has no plans to play him now, unless he absolutely has to put him in the game. The report I heard earlier said that Staten should be fine when the NCAA tourney tips off.
 
Staten and Brown have been out with an injury the past few games. This is the first time Staten has not been in street clothes. The "emergency" comment meant that Huggins has no plans to play him now, unless he absolutely has to put him in the game. The report I heard earlier said that Staten should be fine when the NCAA tourney tips off.

Could be Huggins' way of fooling the committee, too. He's been burned by injuries in seeding before - ('99 Cincy).
 
We better be careful tonight, these refs at the Big 12 Tournament are technical foul happy.

I have not been impressed with the officiating so far during the WV-Baylor game. I feel like WV has gotten the short end of the stick so far, but it's been bad both ways.

Fran said after Mark Whitehead called a nit-picky technical on an WVU player for trying to dunk the ball after the whistle blew that this is the time of the season when some officials are "worn out," and they definitely "have a short fuse." He said the same thing happened last year.

I think Whitehead may be one of them. I looked it up. He has already officiated 83 games in 22 states this season. As an FYI, he's the official who failed to call an obvious foul when Thomas was clearly bumped on a drive to the basket in the KU game. He compounded that mistake by saying he stepped on the baseline. I ran the play back four times to see if the call was correct. It wasn't. TaShawn did not step on the line.
 
Could be Huggins' way of fooling the committee, too. He's been burned by injuries in seeding before - ('99 Cincy).

You may be right. I never considered that. Huggins is a sharp guy. Nothing he does would surprise me.
 
I think Whitehead may be one of them. I looked it up. He has already officiated 83 games in 22 states this season. As an FYI, he's the official who failed to call an obvious foul when Thomas was clearly bumped on a drive to the basket in the KU game. He compounded that mistake by saying he stepped on the baseline. I ran the play back four times to see if the call was correct. It wasn't. TaShawn did not step on the line.

You've identified a HUGE problem in college basketball. These guys are independent contractors paid anywhere from $1,000 - $3,000 per game. The system incentivizes them to do as many games and travel as much as humanly possible. 83 games? That's more than an entire NBA season. There's no way that guy is at his best after the physical and mental grind it would take to travel to and referee 83 games in roughly 4 months.
 
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WOW so he made 90k in 4 months work? how do you become a college official?!

Here's a pretty good read:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/college-basketball-refs-hustle-pay-212006385--ncaab.html

"highly sought-after refs officiate 75 to 100 games per season". If you assume those guys are getting paid at the top end of the scale, they're making closer to $300,000 per season than $90k. It's admittedly a tough job, but they damn sure don't do it for free.
 
You've identified a HUGE problem in college basketball. These guys are independent contractors paid anywhere from $1,000 - $3,000 per game. The system incentivizes them to do as many games and travel as much as humanly possible. 83 games? That's more than an entire NBA season. There's no way that guy is at his best after the physical and mental grind it would take to travel to and referee 83 games in roughly 4 months.

Don't forget about the travel. Twenty-two states in calling those games, staying in motels and hotels, etc., etc. is a lot of wear and tear on an official. These guys also hold down full time jobs.

Whitehead is just an example. He is by no means the only one. Here's an interesting stat sheet to prove my point. You'll recognize a number of the names. No wonder these guys are worn out and cranky by the end of the season! :facepalm

http://statsheet.com/mcb/referees

Here's a link to the Big 12 officials:

http://statsheet.com/mcb/conferences/big-12/referees
 
TCU is hanging tough. Play great D. I hope they keep it close enough to make Kansas fans crap their pants.
 
Re: Referees

Most HS referees ref a lot more games than that. Of course, that includes junior high and JV games. HS games in Texas are usually a freshman, JV, and varsity game. Unless it's a really big game, then you usually call 2 of them (e.g. freshman and varsity). It's been 7-8 years since I called games, but I would have to leave work early (go in early, too), drive anywhere from 20-100+ miles to get to the freshman game by 5:00. By the time the varsity game ended, it was 9:30-10:00 before I started the drive home. That means I could leave work at 4:00 and get home at midnight. I might make $100 plus mileage. It was crazy but I loved it, and called games with doctors, lawyers, oil company VP's, etc. They mostly did it for the love of the game. Guys with a 9-5 job couldn't call NCAA games because they couldn't take off work. They tended to have their own businesses although I knew a few (very few) who made officiating their full-time job (called football, basketball, baseball, etc. …. going from season to season).

I was a trainer for new referees in the chapter I was most involved in (Rice Belt chapter out in Katy). I usually called 100-125 JH/HS games a year plus youth leagues, adult leagues, and AAU, and probably called 3 nights a week on the average. I had to learn to say "no" or I would be calling every night of the week. I also had a full-time job, a wife, and 3 kids so I really couldn't devote more time to it.

I still run into guys (and ladies) who I called with, coaches, and even players who I refereed. It was a lot of fun but it was also hard work. My toughest day was a Saturday AAU tournament where I called 12 games in a day in Houston with no AC in the gym. I got to the point where I couldn't sweat anymore.
 
But if a guy's making 90-300,000K, maybe he shouldn't be holding down a fulltime job.

This.

On a separate note, it amazes me the KU players can even get off the floor with the commentators/officials constantly hanging from their nutsack :facepalm
 
am I the only one actually watching the games?

despite TCU's conference record I think Trent Johnson might have been one of the top coaches in the league this year. They have turned rather solid and salty.
 
This.

On a separate note, it amazes me the KU players can even get off the floor with the commentators/officials constantly hanging from their nutsack :facepalm

with all the stroking they get I am surprised they don't run up and down the floor with constant erections.
 
am I the only one actually watching the games?

despite TCU's conference record I think Trent Johnson might have been one of the top coaches in the league this year. They have turned rather solid and salty.

Agreed. Assuming TCU gets an invite to the NIT, I think they're going to be a tough out.
 
every time you think KU is about to pull away TCU inches closer again.
 
KU player falls down with the ball, rolls around on the ground, and no travel called. WTH?
 
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