Third in Preseason Big 12 Coaches Vote

[got mulk??]

The past---like, it isn't happening at Baylor right now? This entire atmosphere of Baylor is the only place that would tolerate Mulkey.

The current situation at Baylor has nothing to do with Kim! This is a WBB forum right?

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

Move on already it's 2016!! I know why you keep bringing up events from the past, because otherwise you would have absolutely NOTHING to say. Keep beating the dead horse

gm,

As I'm sure even you can figure out, 2016 is not the year you want to use as even a tiny positive for what is happening at your favorite team.

President removed,
Head coach removed
Sexual assault issues
Title IX coordinator leaves because they refuse to let her do her job (according to her)
And on and on and on.

 

[SoonerSpock]

gm,

As I'm sure even you can figure out, 2016 is not the year you want to use as even a tiny positive for what is happening at your favorite team.

President removed,
Head coach removed
Sexual assault issues
Title IX coordinator leaves because they refuse to let her do her job (according to her)
And on and on and on.

gm did not discuss or dispute the points she made above. She said the points you make have nothing do do with Kim and she is right. Now it is not a good time to be waving Baylor's flag in public but it is legitimate to differentiate the WBB team from the sex scandal issues at the school.

Too many here want to make Kim, her team and the sex scandal one and the same. Your myopic view of Baylor is becoming more like Syb's with every post. We are all justified in disliking Baylor because they are WBB's chief rival but we should respect the product they put on the court. You can rightfully speak of Kim's past violations but only from a historic perspective.

Wilkinson, Switzer, Stoops and Sampson were all associated with NCAA violations and or probations but we all feel that was in the past and that we should let by gones be by gones. Ditto for Kim's transgression as well. The focus now needs to be on beating her backside. That is Sherri's job.

 

[scrybe]

The current situation at Baylor has nothing to do with Kim! This is a WBB forum right?

Yes, and more specifically an OU WBB forum. Get lost, mulk!

 

[got mulk??]

Yes, and more specifically an OU WBB forum. Get lost, mulk!

Nope, think I'll hang around here for awhile longer just to be a thorn in your side!

 

[inoref]

The past---like, it isn't happening at Baylor right now? This entire atmosphere of Baylor is the only place that would tolerate Mulkey.

Mulkey wouldn't have any problem finding a job..Like her or not but she is the best women basketball coach in the Big 12

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

Mulkey wouldn't have any problem finding a job..Like her or not but she is the best women basketball coach in the Big 12

You guys make me laugh.

But I guess I can agree with you on this.

Yes, she is the best cheater of all the coaches (WBB and other sports) in the conference. I'm assuming that is what you were pointing out. :ez-roll: In fact, the only conference WBB coach who has been sanctioned by the NCAA I do believe.

 

[got mulk??]

If Sherri left OU, then I guarantee that Kim would be welcomed with open arms as HC to think otherwise is incredibly naive and foolish. Then what would OU fans think?

 

[j2d2]

Considering the gravity of the allegations(some of them admitted or at least not denied) and more being filed/investigations opened, it is foolish not to conclude that the athletic department is imbued in the kind of culture that condones illicit conduct. Why would it not include women's basketball and every other sport? It doesnt necessarily differentiate between men and women's sports. We're talking about a culture and there is no question that it was pervasive.

 

[tycat947]

If Sherri left OU, then I guarantee that Kim would be welcomed with open arms as HC to think otherwise is incredibly naive and foolish. Then what would OU fans think?

You must have your head buried in the sand as much as the Hypocrite U BOR! She would NOT be hired at OU, just like Texas wouldn't hire her!

 

[Pike Pastor]

Oh Puh-leeze....the hatred runs high for Kim Mulkey on this board but the refusal to accept her as a great coach is not just irrational...it's silly.
Oh, I suppose there is plenty about her to dislike--the fuming and stomping and whining, the wardrobe...and occasional disrobing of said wardrobe...all fair game for disapproval

Her violations? Now some on this board still maintain these crimes rivaled the Lindberg kidnapping. Now they were not insignificant, yet the people whose job it is to police college sports did not consider them heinous enough to merit sweeping penalties. Was the NCAA predisposed to go easy on BU? Certainly not when they rightly dropped the hammer on the Darrel Johnson and Dave Bliss violations. And yes, Syb, Voepel and S.Jenkins clucked their tongues and penned their disapproval of BUs violations at the time. And by my research, they have yet to harp on this and continue to point accusatory fingers at BU WBB.

Her record? Let's go the tape, shall we?
16 seasons 473-94 .837
Other Big 12 coaches with similar tenure?
Bill Fennelly (great guy) 20 seasons 443-209 .679
Sherri Coale (HOF) 20 seasons 442-216 .67

Shrug and sniff at the figures if you like, but it won't change the fact that in fewer seasons KM has chocked up more Ws. I didn't add the conference and tourney championship tally because it's in a post above...

Personally, I'm not crazy about Geno. He held a grudge against Pat Summit until she passed...He rides the refs as much as Kim.. He's very tough on his players...His attitude irritates me... But I have no problem declaring that sonofagun as the finest WBB coach on the planet
Km is certainly no Geno. Neither is Sherri. Yet both are fine coaches

Oh and J2d2--although it is fashionable to pile on BU these days, until you produce one shred of evidence to warrant your claim, it is patently irresponsible to paint their WBB with the same tarred brush that is applied to football. No proof, not even innuendo, has surfaced to suggest that kind of misogyny looms there.

Enough about BU....OU WBB hits the court in less than 3 weeks!

 

[Pike Pastor]

My apologies to West Va coach Mike Carey. I meant no disrespect in omitting him from the above little list of longer tenured Big 12 WBB coaches

Carey seems to be a down-to-earth, nice fella. Has only played and coached in his home state. 288 wins at small Salem International prior to Morgantown 15 yrs 322-171 .653
Quite respectable.

 

[SoonerSpock]

Considering the gravity of the allegations(some of them admitted or at least not denied) and more being filed/investigations opened, it is foolish not to conclude that the athletic department is imbued in the kind of culture that condones illicit conduct. Why would it not include women's basketball and every other sport? It doesnt necessarily differentiate between men and women's sports. We're talking about a culture and there is no question that it was pervasive.

We both know what we do when we assume. Read Pike Pastor and learn.

 

[scrybe]

Oh Puh-leeze....the hatred runs high for Kim Mulkey on this board but the refusal to accept her as a great coach is not just irrational...it's silly.
Oh, I suppose there is plenty about her to dislike--the fuming and stomping and whining, the wardrobe...and occasional disrobing of said wardrobe...all fair game for disapproval

Her violations? Now some on this board still maintain these crimes rivaled the Lindberg kidnapping. Now they were not insignificant, yet the people whose job it is to police college sports did not consider them heinous enough to merit sweeping penalties. Was the NCAA predisposed to go easy on BU? Certainly not when they rightly dropped the hammer on the Darrel Johnson and Dave Bliss violations. And yes, Syb, Voepel and S.Jenkins clucked their tongues and penned their disapproval of BUs violations at the time. And by my research, they have yet to harp on this and continue to point accusatory fingers at BU WBB.

Her record? Let's go the tape, shall we?
16 seasons 473-94 .837
Other Big 12 coaches with similar tenure?
Bill Fennelly (great guy) 20 seasons 443-209 .679
Sherri Coale (HOF) 20 seasons 442-216 .67

Shrug and sniff at the figures if you like, but it won't change the fact that in fewer seasons KM has chocked up more Ws. I didn't add the conference and tourney championship tally because it's in a post above...

Personally, I'm not crazy about Geno. He held a grudge against Pat Summit until she passed...He rides the refs as much as Kim.. He's very tough on his players...His attitude irritates me... But I have no problem declaring that sonofagun as the finest WBB coach on the planet
Km is certainly no Geno. Neither is Sherri. Yet both are fine coaches

Oh and J2d2--although it is fashionable to pile on BU these days, until you produce one shred of evidence to warrant your claim, it is patently irresponsible to paint their WBB with the same tarred brush that is applied to football. No proof, not even innuendo, has surfaced to suggest that kind of misogyny looms there.

Enough about BU....OU WBB hits the court in less than 3 weeks!

Since PP has declared that his is the final word on this topic, guess it's time to move on.

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

You must have your head buried in the sand as much as the Hypocrite U BOR! She would NOT be hired at OU, just like Texas wouldn't hire her!

Certainly agree with you TC.

Not only would they not hire her, she would not even get an interview.

You have to laugh at the insecure BU fans who are still so intimidated by other programs that they must get on opponent's boards to brag and make audacious claims.

 

[got mulk??]

Kinda like OU fans that want Baylor to leave the conference but their school along with UT are the only ones that voted against B12 expansion!! Now that's funny

BTW, I'm very secure and not the slightest bit intimidated by any B12 program when it comes to WBB. We have the best coach and best record the numbers don't lie. So keep bashing our program and our coach if that makes you able to sleep at night and we will just keep winning and signing top recruits! Sic'em!!

 

[sybarite]

So. Since Voepel, Jenkins, Muffit, and others have not continued their open rant, we are to assume that it is quite proper to kill, steal, and commit adultery since we haven't seen a commandment stating otherwise for about five thousand years (time may be off, being an atheist). You don't have to repeat it daily unless there are those who just can't seem to get the idea without it being posted on every door on a daily basis. The fact that she wasn't hit by a bolt of lightning from the NCAA gods doesn't mean that they didn't express and maintain contempt for those who would despoil the honor of their game.

And, then, there are those that would suggest that we should celebrate a murderer because he is so good at it.

 

[SoonerSpock]

So. Since Voepel, Jenkins, Muffit, and others have not continued their open rant, we are to assume that it is quite proper to kill, steal, and commit adultery since we haven't seen a commandment stating otherwise for about five thousand years (time may be off, being an atheist). You don't have to repeat it daily unless there are those who just can't seem to get the idea without it being posted on every door on a daily basis. The fact that she wasn't hit by a bolt of lightning from the NCAA gods doesn't mean that they didn't express and maintain contempt for those who would despoil the honor of their game.

And, then, there are those that would suggest that we should celebrate a murderer because he is so good at it.

This is a WBB board. When did Kim here staff and player participate in killing, stealing and committing adultery. Never I think. So where are your implications directed? At the university, at the football team or are you ranting again about something unrelated to WBB?

 

[SoonerSpock]

Kinda like OU fans that want Baylor to leave the conference but their school along with UT are the only ones that voted against B12 expansion!! Now that's funny

BTW, I'm very secure and not the slightest bit intimidated by any B12 program when it comes to WBB. We have the best coach and best record the numbers don't lie. So keep bashing our program and our coach if that makes you able to sleep at night and we will just keep winning and signing top recruits! Sic'em!!

Not true! A vote of 8-2 would have passed expansion. Now to get any one school accepted into the conference it would have required that all 8 vote for each specific school given membership. So it might have been the 8 schools wanting expansion but could not agree on which schools to admit.

Much more likely that the expansion process was designed to apply leverage to their TV partners to solicit more dollars for the pending conference championship game and in the near future a moderate increase in the existing contract revenues which would save ESPN and Fox $100's millions of dollars and make the conference $10's of millions of dollars not available otherwise.

Kind of a crappy thing to do to Houston, BYU, Cincinnati, et al. But making money justifies too many actions that should be avoided because it is not the right thing to do.

 

[sybarite]

This is a WBB board. When did Kim here staff and player participate in killing, stealing and committing adultery. Never I think. So where are your implications directed? At the university, at the football team or are you ranting again about something unrelated to WBB?

Don't evade the subject. The subject being addressed involves the violations and behavior under the scope of the NCAA and the media cited, just as murder falls under the scope of the commandments. Logical flow is the same. Do you forget them simply because they aren't addressed daily or because they haven't been stated in five thousand years?